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Old 02-01-2010, 12:29 PM   #51 (permalink)
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that was some crazy ass shit. but hey where else can you see some shit like that and talk about where to place an offer except on WF. So hey keep the crazy shit coming!!
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Old 02-01-2010, 12:29 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I thought this was the kosher slaughter.
It is. He doesn't know what he's talking about. The video was taken at a (mainly) Kosher processing plant.
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did not watch. don't get why they don't use the simple high-voltage high-current jolt like in many humane slaughterhouses that kills on contact (not just renders them unconscious), or the quick mallet to the head like the old days. this seems unnecessarily gruesome, inhumane, and also not very cost-effective with all of the machinery involved.

call me a pussy but this is why I don't mind getting meat from a place that has humane treatment, even if it costs more.

I have no problem eating meat - but inhumane treatment of animals is wrong. That's one job I couldn't take with a clean conscience.
Agree with every bit of what you just said.

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Now I really want a hamburger.
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at the same time, that's nature, you know? a wild animal can still put up a fight or attempt escape. this isn't nature.

think I'll be buying meat at whole foods from now on. Plus the founder/CEO is libertarian, so more incentive for me. Good treatment of employees (no unions too), good treatment of the animals

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Check out their generic peanutbutter. Get this, it's made out of crushed peanuts and.... that's it. AND it's delicious! Who would have thunk it?
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It was already pointed out that this is most likely a Kosher slaughterhouse... or one of the very few that does things this way. It's not the norm.
i was joking. i really dont care how they get slaughter.

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It is. He doesn't know what he's talking about. The video was taken at a (mainly) Kosher processing plant.
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..and agriprocessors is in quite a bit of trouble right now.
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It's interesting that some people care if an animal is slaughtered humanely and some don't, and what causes that difference. I wonder if they were there to witness it in person vs video would they care.
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That is so fucking wrong. People who do that must be emotionless.
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It's interesting that some people care if an animal is slaughtered humanely and some don't, and what causes that difference. I wonder if they were there to witness it in person vs video would they care.
I have watched my in-laws in Asia slit the neck of a live pig with a machete. I still ate it a couple hours later after it was done roasting over a fire. It was delicious.

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It wasn't a nice way to kill the cow, but the cow is going to die either way right?

Did they ask it how it would like to be killed, I don't think they did as it doesn't really matter.... it ends up the same way.
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Having watched the whole video, it really made me appreciate all the work that goes into my steak and burgers.

Thank you for posting this, OP! I think I'm going to need a double-double from In-N-Out to satisfy this craving...
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Can we keep the food porn going in this thread?

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Bacon cheddar cheeseburger. The best.


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^^^ew, that girl needs to eat a damn cheeseburger
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Years ago, I knew this guy who worked at a slaughterhouse (although it was pigs, not cows). It was his job to slit the throats of the hanging animals. Some of the stories he told were absolutely horrible like when the animal wasn't fully sedated.
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So is anyone else actually getting hungry thinking about the food these animals turn into or is that not good?
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So is anyone else actually getting hungry thinking about the food these animals turn into or is that not good?
Just got back from In-N-Out and had a cheeseburger (not a double-double that I said I would get).

I will admit, as I took a bite, I thought of the video and it made it taste soooo much better.
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I will admit, as I took a bite, I thought of the video and it made it taste soooo much better.
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I'm fat enough as it is... 4x4 is more my style. I like even numbers.

I did get my fries Animal Style, though.

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Im not a vegan, but im a vegetarian......keep in mind that most of these cows are fed a lot of hormones which are then fed to the general people.
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Im not a vegan, but im a vegetarian......keep in mind that most of these cows are fed a lot of hormones which are then fed to the general people.
Someone was going to post this up at one time or another, so here goes...

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Im not a vegan, but im a vegetarian......keep in mind that most of these cows are fed a lot of hormones which are then fed to the general people.
same here mate, if they would only know what huge amounts of meds are in those steaks ... Enjoy
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If this bothers you guys you should see some of the other stuff that happens in the world. There are actually people getting killed every day too... *shrug*
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again. go to somewhere like Whole Foods and get hormone-free meat.
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My guess would be: EVOLUTION

Can you explain the fact that humans can NOT digest red meat?
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Can you explain the fact that humans can NOT digest red meat?
Can you explain why humans cannot synthesize all the essential amino acids and have to get them from animal meat/sources?
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This is almost worse than Saw or Hostel. But honestly, this is really inefficient way to get some meat, and I'd be surprised if this was how they actually slaughtered it. It'd be like picking cotton by hand just because the sweat from the human hands helps the cotton cure easier.
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Buy Halal or Kosher meat. The method of execution is a bit more humane than this. Also, as an alternative, check out quails - it doesn't matter how you kill them because there's so many of them.
Do you really eat this many quail? Like shoot and kill them yourself?
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If this bothers you guys you should see some of the other stuff that happens in the world. There are actually people getting killed every day too... *shrug*

Yah but people dont make factories dedicated to giving birth to human babies, separating them from their mothers without milk, and then slaughtering the females to be sent off to some "hungry" other species. In addition, people dont box up human babies in a 3x3 where they cant stand so a few months later they could be slaughtered as an innocent baby. Just think of it that way.

^ Metaphor to Cows and Veal
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Can you explain why humans cannot synthesize all the essential amino acids and have to get them from animal meat/sources?

I call bullshit. Where do beans and other natural protein sources play a role in this question?

The fact is that humans do NOT need meat to survive, it is a tasty desire.
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In-N-Out burger, Whole Foods, etc... fucking Missouri, I've never even seen one of these places in real life.
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In-N-Out burger, Whole Foods, etc... fucking Missouri, I've never even seen one of these places in real life.
there's 3 whole foods stores in missouri
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Rabbi Chaim Kohn, of the AgriProcessors plant, says the steers feel nothing, even as they struggle on the floor and slam their heads into walls. "Unconsciousness and the external behavior of the animal have nothing to do with shechita," he said.

seriously?

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/01/na...rint&position=
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I dont know why but i thought kosher meant they treat the animal well during its life and kill it humanly? what does the kosher process mean ?
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They should hire a Japanese guy with a sharp samurai sharp and behead cows with a single slice. I think I saw that in a movie once.
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If this bothers you guys you should see some of the other stuff that happens in the world. There are actually people getting killed every day too... *shrug*

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Can you explain the fact that humans can NOT digest red meat?
"Fact"... what a bunch of bullshit.
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If this bothers you guys you should see some of the other stuff that happens in the world. There are actually people getting killed every day too... *shrug*
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Yah but people dont make factories dedicated to giving birth to human babies, separating them from their mothers without milk, and then slaughtering the females to be sent off to some "hungry" other species. In addition, people dont box up human babies in a 3x3 where they cant stand so a few months later they could be slaughtered as an innocent baby. Just think of it that way.

^ Metaphor to Cows and Veal
Right, those are two things that people don't do. I was talking about some of the stuff that people do do.


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I can't stand the video and I feel sorry for the cows, but this doesn't seem any more painful than when wolves tear apart sheep to eat, or any natural predator-prey killings for this matter

At least this is feeding our population
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at the same time, that's nature, you know? a wild animal can still put up a fight or attempt escape. this isn't nature.

think I'll be buying meat at whole foods from now on. Plus the founder/CEO is libertarian, so more incentive for me. Good treatment of employees (no unions too), good treatment of the animals
If we humans are products of nature and we are here on Earth surviving, then isn't any action that we carry out "natural human behavior" by definition? Why is the wolf/sheep example acceptable as natural but not human/cow?
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Too bad it is made of meat. The cow I mean.
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Eat good meat, well reared and humanely killed, locally sourced if possible. Accept that a lot of people are a lot more concerned about whether they can get any food at all not how it is reared or killed. Despise and pity those who live in societies that are educated and wealthy enough to know better, yet still do this shit in the name of their religion.

Fortunately in the west this stuff isn't that common, the growth hormone shit given to cows in the milk industry is a lot more concerning...

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We get most of our meat from the amish. It is better for the most part -- fresher at least.... and less hands touching it or freezing it.

Most of the meat you get at the grocery store has been butchered in a slaughter house, rolled down a conveyor, chopped up by illegal immigrants, flash frozen, shipped in a truck to your store where it sits in said box while it thaws, then opened by the guy who makes 10 dollars an hour and put in those little Styrofoam containers (opps wait - sometimes they have to add a dye to it so it looks "proper" for you), then it sits out where the general public paws all over it.

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sometimes they have to add a dye to it so it looks "proper" for you
So much shit goes into food, it's fucking unbelievable.

Sure there's US equivalents but these are really informative for anyone interested:

BBC - BBC One Programmes - Jimmy's Food Factory

jimmy's food factory - Google Videos

BBC - BBC Three Programmes - Kill It, Cook It, Eat It

http://thebox.bz/browse.php?incldead...t&nonboolean=1

Been loads of stuff like this on TV here recently, saw some better docs but can't remember what they were called.
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