Blocking LP Lockdown by NickyCakes - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

command · 02-02-2010, 09:10 PM

NickyCakes just released a cool tool called LP Lockdown, which is invite only. Blocks people from stealing your landing pages.

The only problem with that is that to make it work even if his servers go down, he needs to implement it as javascript. So you can just block his javascript to make sure you're always viewing the right page on affiliate sites.

From his video, where he shows omgacai.com, if you disable javascript in your browser you'll see these two scripts load:

http://11i.us/c/4OSIM7
http://11i.us/t/tHseoh

The first one redirects you to the dummy page, so if you get a firefox / browser addon where you can blacklist URLs, I would start by blocking the domain 11i.us entirely from ever loading.

That's a start, since i'm sure he'll have much more domains, but if he's been building up a list of affiliate IPs, it's easier to build a smaller list of domains.

Good luck Nicky.

Infinite Keith · 02-02-2010, 09:42 PM

No one click anything.

Just saying, for you super noobs. Don't click his shit.

bizkiller · 02-02-2010, 09:45 PM

i don't like clickin sketchy urls..

nickycakes · 02-02-2010, 10:01 PM

I'll shrug off the fact that you're pretty much advocating stealing landing pages, and just say this. Anyone who is specifically trying to circumvent the cloaking portion of the service will be able to find a way.

Fortunately, the online marketing industry is HUGE, and the members of wickedfire, along with whoever else might have heard of my service represent such a small fraction of the space. In the grand scheme of things, almost nobody will know that you are cloaking your site.

Thanks for attempting to be a cunt and put the tracking url on as many places as possible to try and cause problems (it failed, but it looks funny in the logs). I'd ban you if I were an objective observer, but since you're talking shit about my product, and since I'm not afraid to stand by my work, I'll let you continue to embarrass yourself further at your leisure.

Good day, sir.

turbolapp · 02-02-2010, 10:04 PM

No such thing as bad publicity amirite?

nickycakes · 02-02-2010, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbolapp

No such thing as bad publicity amirite?

When landing page thieves start making posts talking all sorts of shit about my landing page anti-theft system, I know I'm doing something right.

command · 02-03-2010, 12:13 AM

I don't do landing pages. I don't advocate for the thiefs either.
You blogged badly about a product I built myself and pissed me off months ago, so now this is just payback. I spent a lot of time building mine for the community, you spent a lot of time building yours. You discredit mine, I discredit yours.
Now we're even.

medicalhumor · 02-03-2010, 12:19 AM

how'd that work out for you? feel better?

Now go fuck yourself

Quote:

Originally Posted by command

I don't do landing pages. I don't advocate for the thiefs either.
You blogged badly about a product I built myself and pissed me off months ago, so now this is just payback. I spent a lot of time building mine for the community, you spent a lot of time building yours. You discredit mine, I discredit yours.
Now we're even.

Refrozen · 02-03-2010, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by command

I don't do landing pages. I don't advocate for the thiefs either.
You blogged badly about a product I built myself and pissed me off months ago, so now this is just payback. I spent a lot of time building mine for the community, you spent a lot of time building yours. You discredit mine, I discredit yours.
Now we're even.

I was going to defend you for being kind enough to point out the faults in Nicky's products... especially after Nicky ragecaking at you for posting it... but after seeing this...

sumitdhawan09 · 02-03-2010, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by command

I don't do landing pages. I don't advocate for the thiefs either.
You blogged badly about a product I built myself and pissed me off months ago, so now this is just payback. I spent a lot of time building mine for the community, you spent a lot of time building yours. You discredit mine, I discredit yours.
Now we're even.

Hello friend,

Can say all want but in end Bagalamukhi know and see truth.

Good luck bro

command · 02-03-2010, 12:40 AM

Listen, I do want Nicky's tool to be better. I can make tons of suggestions. There are countless ways to make this tool absolutely flawless. Introduce load balancers with failovers. Don't rely on javascript, and on and on, but he doesn't listen anyways. All he does is bitch and discredit / annoy people who try to build products for the community. If he started acting a little more open to help from other people in the industry and actually gave back to the community, then most people would have no problem helping him in return.

PeerFly · 02-03-2010, 12:40 AM

I like the system and think there is definitely a market for it, however, I just think if people really want to steal a landing page that javascript isn't going to stop them. Also, paying $50 a month for a hosted client-side script that, at the very most, will only slow down the theft doesn't make sense to me.

Aside from that, it's still a great idea and more power to ya.

papajohn56 · 02-03-2010, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickycakes

I'll shrug off the fact that you're pretty much advocating stealing landing pages, and just say this. Anyone who is specifically trying to circumvent the cloaking portion of the service will be able to find a way.

Fortunately, the online marketing industry is HUGE, and the members of wickedfire, along with whoever else might have heard of my service represent such a small fraction of the space. In the grand scheme of things, almost nobody will know that you are cloaking your site.

Thanks for attempting to be a cunt and put the tracking url on as many places as possible to try and cause problems (it failed, but it looks funny in the logs). I'd ban you if I were an objective observer, but since you're talking shit about my product, and since I'm not afraid to stand by my work, I'll let you continue to embarrass yourself further at your leisure.

Good day, sir.

what do you say to the people that don't want to out their LPs to your proprietary, non-self hosted system?

jbartinla · 02-03-2010, 01:02 AM

This only protects from a straight steal -- not a copy based on a screen shot or design using another LP as a template, correct?

dsiomtw · 02-03-2010, 01:02 AM

Quote:

what do you say to the people that don't want to out their LPs to your proprietary, non-self hosted system?

"I promise not to rip your landing pages kthxbye" ???

command · 02-03-2010, 01:09 AM

Nicky, here's my suggestion. This one's free.

User has a PHP script on their end which connects to your server and passes through $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'] (the viewer's IP). Your server replies with a YES/NO based on the criteria they choose.
If you're afraid of your servers going down and their landing page not loading, you can easily add:

1) A timeout on replies from your server.
2) Integrate your uptime script on the PHP script to ping YOUR servers.
3) Just setup a failover system with 2 load balancers -> 3-4 application servers, and you'll never need to worry about your system going down. Load balancers can handle DDoS attacks themselves.

Dullspace · 02-03-2010, 01:28 AM

Nicolas

marroon · 02-03-2010, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by command

Nicky, here's my suggestion. This one's free.

User has a PHP script on their end which connects to your server and passes through $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'] (the viewer's IP). Your server replies with a YES/NO based on the criteria they choose.
If you're afraid of your servers going down and their landing page not loading, you can easily add:

1) A timeout on replies from your server.
2) Integrate your uptime script on the PHP script to ping YOUR servers.
3) Just setup a failover system with 2 load balancers -> 3-4 application servers, and you'll never need to worry about your system going down. Load balancers can handle DDoS attacks themselves.

Dude, no one cares

rileypool · 02-03-2010, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marroon

Dude, no one cares

Maybe not that particular suggestion, I dunno. But I'm sure Nick wouldn't mind constructive criticism. I'm sure he wants the best end product possible.

kyleirwin · 02-03-2010, 02:52 AM

Honestly thanks for the input, but we already have an API written and it was available to beta testers. We're just putting together better documentation and more sample scripts before we release it to more users.

nickycakes · 02-03-2010, 07:32 AM

I hate to be a dick to someone trying to help, but, maybe you should sign up to an account and check to see if we have these features yet before getting all up in arms about us not having them, haha.

That said, I always welcome constructive criticism, and as you guys who helped beta test it know, we bend over backwards to implement suggestions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by command

Nicky, here's my suggestion. This one's free.

User has a PHP script on their end which connects to your server and passes through $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'] (the viewer's IP). Your server replies with a YES/NO based on the criteria they choose.
If you're afraid of your servers going down and their landing page not loading, you can easily add:

1) A timeout on replies from your server.
2) Integrate your uptime script on the PHP script to ping YOUR servers.
3) Just setup a failover system with 2 load balancers -> 3-4 application servers, and you'll never need to worry about your system going down. Load balancers can handle DDoS attacks themselves.

nickycakes · 02-03-2010, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papajohn56

what do you say to the people that don't want to out their LPs to your proprietary, non-self hosted system?

I say to them, "don't buy it."

We will never steal your shit, nor do we need to.

ricdes · 02-03-2010, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickycakes

I say to them, "don't buy it."

We will never steal your shit, nor do we need to.

cool idea bro, but sry nicky, I wont even think about buying it. shit's too proprietary and I'm not very happy about seeing you making smart cloaking systems available to the biggest noobs.

bb_wolfe · 02-03-2010, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickycakes

Thanks for attempting to be a cunt and put the tracking url on as many places as possible to try and cause problems (it failed, but it looks funny in the logs).

Get ready for idiots like this in mass. My advice is to get one really good response and just stick to it over and over, else they'll just be cunts forever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbolapp

No such thing as bad publicity amirite?

Not even close to true, ask the new owner of WFReview how a single email can crush a guy down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by command

Nicky, here's my suggestion. .

Sorry dickhole, no redemption for you today, GTFO

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickycakes

I hate to be a dick to someone trying to help, but, maybe you should sign up to an account and check to see if we have these features yet before getting all up in arms about us not having them, haha.

33/33/33 - 33% 'get it' and you're golden, 33% are ar-tards like command and will never get it, no matter how hard you try, and 33% just don't give a fuck. You'll sleep better ignoring the middle guys, I've been there!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricdes

I'm not very happy about seeing you making smart cloaking systems available to the biggest noobs.

Agreed, unless tools like that have a high barrier to entry, noobs will always fuck something up for the rest of us. This goes for any software, not simply nick's.

turbolapp · 02-03-2010, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bb_wolfe

Not even close to true, ask the new owner of WFReview how a single email can crush a guy down.

Of course it's not true always, (although i think in the case of which you speak, it's sound like the guy was being a big freakin moron and then broadcasting it.) But in the case of a brand new product/service that just hit the market 2 days ago, this stuff is gold. There are (at current count) 748 views and subtracting the repeat views, that's about 400- 500 people that now know about this product and at the very least have their curiosities piqued. Bring in the shit talkers vs the fan bois, throw in a little random thread derailment from turbo and that number will probably at least triple.

bb_wolfe · 02-03-2010, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbolapp

Of course it's not true always, (although i think in the case of which you speak, it's sound like the guy was being a big freakin moron and then broadcasting it.) But in the case of a brand new product/service that just hit the market 2 days ago, this stuff is gold. There are (at current count) 748 views and subtracting the repeat views, that's about 400- 500 people that now know about this product and at the very least have their curiosities piqued. Bring in the shit talkers vs the fan bois, throw in a little random thread derailment from turbo and that number will probably at least triple.

Just FYI, wasn't trolling you, just being sarcastically ironic!

Unarmed Gunman · 02-03-2010, 12:16 PM

Without doing any research on this I'm just gonna ask - doesn't WPSmartTools already do most of this without a subscription? Or is it better at locking down LP's and cloaking? Not sure, just wondering because as Turbo mentioned now my interest is piqued in a product I wasn't familiar with.

nickycakes · 02-03-2010, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unarmed Gunman

Without doing any research on this I'm just gonna ask - doesn't WPSmartTools already do most of this without a subscription? Or is it better at locking down LP's and cloaking? Not sure, just wondering because as Turbo mentioned now my interest is piqued in a product I wasn't familiar with.

PM me your email and I'll find you an invite, and a quick refund if you're unimpressed.

Dwight Schrute · 02-03-2010, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by command

NickyCakes just released a cool tool called LP Lockdown, which is invite only. Blocks people from stealing your landing pages.

The only problem with that is that to make it work even if his servers go down, he needs to implement it as javascript. So you can just block his javascript to make sure you're always viewing the right page on affiliate sites.

From his video, where he shows omgacai.com, if you disable javascript in your browser you'll see these two scripts load:

http://11i.us/c/4OSIM7
http://11i.us/t/tHseoh

The first one redirects you to the dummy page, so if you get a firefox / browser addon where you can blacklist URLs, I would start by blocking the domain 11i.us entirely from ever loading.

That's a start, since i'm sure he'll have much more domains, but if he's been building up a list of affiliate IPs, it's easier to build a smaller list of domains.

Good luck Nicky.

I hope that a plaque comes loose from one of your arteries and gets stuck in your brain, causing you paralysis in half of your body.

cryptix · 02-03-2010, 01:13 PM

OP = douche
Cakes = win

as for this post...

barman · 02-03-2010, 01:23 PM

I JUST PUSH THE PRTSCN BUTTON MY KEYBOARD AND YOUR WHOLE SOFTWARE IS MOOT.

oneday · 02-04-2010, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Schrute

I hope that a plaque comes loose from one of your arteries and gets stuck in your brain, causing you paralysis in half of your body.

you always say the gayest shit

Dwight Schrute · 02-05-2010, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oneday

you always say the gayest shit

This IS the Gay Webmaster Forum.

Go suck a dick.

yellowarrior · 02-05-2010, 04:51 PM

For the people saying this wont guard against screen shots and people who manually recreate (or piece together) landing pages....

DUH!

In sports, plays eventually get figured out. You can't keep scouts out of the game, but you can keep them away from the play book.

Smart landing page builders have been injecting shit like this into stolen pages for a long time. Nicky even wrote about it in his noob guide.

Any new product will have concerns to work past, but this product is damn amazing, especially for people who can't or don't want to write there own protection software.

Thanks Nicky, awesome work.

unfadable858 · 02-05-2010, 04:55 PM

Just like 99% of all the other aff products..

02-02-2010, 09:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
command Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Blocking LP Lockdown by NickyCakes NickyCakes just released a cool tool called LP Lockdown, which is invite only. Blocks people from stealing your landing pages. The only problem with that is that to make it work even if his servers go down, he needs to implement it as javascript. So you can just block his javascript to make sure you're always viewing the right page on affiliate sites. From his video, where he shows omgacai.com, if you disable javascript in your browser you'll see these two scripts load: http://11i.us/c/4OSIM7 http://11i.us/t/tHseoh The first one redirects you to the dummy page, so if you get a firefox / browser addon where you can blacklist URLs, I would start by blocking the domain 11i.us entirely from ever loading. That's a start, since i'm sure he'll have much more domains, but if he's been building up a list of affiliate IPs, it's easier to build a smaller list of domains. Good luck Nicky. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-02-2010, 09:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
Infinite Keith goes on forever. Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 1,292 iTrader: 1 / 100%	No one click anything. Just saying, for you super noobs. Don't click his shit. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-02-2010, 09:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
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02-02-2010, 10:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
nickycakes Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sin City Posts: 2,702 iTrader: 2 / 100%	I'll shrug off the fact that you're pretty much advocating stealing landing pages, and just say this. Anyone who is specifically trying to circumvent the cloaking portion of the service will be able to find a way. Fortunately, the online marketing industry is HUGE, and the members of wickedfire, along with whoever else might have heard of my service represent such a small fraction of the space. In the grand scheme of things, almost nobody will know that you are cloaking your site. Thanks for attempting to be a cunt and put the tracking url on as many places as possible to try and cause problems (it failed, but it looks funny in the logs). I'd ban you if I were an objective observer, but since you're talking shit about my product, and since I'm not afraid to stand by my work, I'll let you continue to embarrass yourself further at your leisure. Good day, sir. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ OFFICIAL WICKEDFIRE CENSOR Nickycakes.com: Reformed Blackhat Nickycakes' Newbie Guide #cakes irc.freenode.net

02-02-2010, 10:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
turbolapp Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Houston, TexASS Posts: 8,130 iTrader: 7 / 100%	No such thing as bad publicity amirite? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-03-2010, 12:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
command Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I don't do landing pages. I don't advocate for the thiefs either. You blogged badly about a product I built myself and pissed me off months ago, so now this is just payback. I spent a lot of time building mine for the community, you spent a lot of time building yours. You discredit mine, I discredit yours. Now we're even. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-03-2010, 12:40 AM	#11 (permalink)
command Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Listen, I do want Nicky's tool to be better. I can make tons of suggestions. There are countless ways to make this tool absolutely flawless. Introduce load balancers with failovers. Don't rely on javascript, and on and on, but he doesn't listen anyways. All he does is bitch and discredit / annoy people who try to build products for the community. If he started acting a little more open to help from other people in the industry and actually gave back to the community, then most people would have no problem helping him in return. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-03-2010, 12:40 AM	#12 (permalink)
PeerFly Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: North Florida Posts: 326 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I like the system and think there is definitely a market for it, however, I just think if people really want to steal a landing page that javascript isn't going to stop them. Also, paying $50 a month for a hosted client-side script that, at the very most, will only slow down the theft doesn't make sense to me. Aside from that, it's still a great idea and more power to ya. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ PeerFly :: We Have an Offer for That

02-03-2010, 01:02 AM	#14 (permalink)
jbartinla Internet Marketer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hollywood Posts: 284 iTrader: 0 / 0%	This only protects from a straight steal -- not a copy based on a screen shot or design using another LP as a template, correct? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ great affiliate offer = www.GoFreeCredit.com

02-03-2010, 01:09 AM	#16 (permalink)
command Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Nicky, here's my suggestion. This one's free. User has a PHP script on their end which connects to your server and passes through $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'] (the viewer's IP). Your server replies with a YES/NO based on the criteria they choose. If you're afraid of your servers going down and their landing page not loading, you can easily add: 1) A timeout on replies from your server. 2) Integrate your uptime script on the PHP script to ping YOUR servers. 3) Just setup a failover system with 2 load balancers -> 3-4 application servers, and you'll never need to worry about your system going down. Load balancers can handle DDoS attacks themselves. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-03-2010, 01:28 AM	#17 (permalink)
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02-03-2010, 02:52 AM	#20 (permalink)
kyleirwin Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Carlsbad Posts: 1,819 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Honestly thanks for the input, but we already have an API written and it was available to beta testers. We're just putting together better documentation and more sample scripts before we release it to more users. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-03-2010, 01:13 PM	#30 (permalink)
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02-03-2010, 01:23 PM	#31 (permalink)
barman Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Internets Posts: 5,842 iTrader: 12 / 100%	I JUST PUSH THE PRTSCN BUTTON MY KEYBOARD AND YOUR WHOLE SOFTWARE IS MOOT. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Where Affiliate Marketers go for News. and Weed.

02-05-2010, 04:51 PM	#34 (permalink)
yellowarrior Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: So Cal Posts: 391 iTrader: 12 / 100%	For the people saying this wont guard against screen shots and people who manually recreate (or piece together) landing pages.... DUH! In sports, plays eventually get figured out. You can't keep scouts out of the game, but you can keep them away from the play book. Smart landing page builders have been injecting shit like this into stolen pages for a long time. Nicky even wrote about it in his noob guide. Any new product will have concerns to work past, but this product is damn amazing, especially for people who can't or don't want to write there own protection software. Thanks Nicky, awesome work. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

02-05-2010, 04:55 PM	#35 (permalink)
unfadable858 Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: US of A Posts: 354 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Just like 99% of all the other aff products.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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