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Old 02-05-2010, 11:47 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Doesn't one of the many features of WPSmartTools do the same thing?
Sort of. Nicky's tool is a bit more advanced (downtime tracking, "extra" cloaking), but it's also remotely hosted which introduces problems like this one. Nicky claimed on Jon Volk's blog that this is "way faster" than Smart Tools, but I'm willing to bet that isn't really the case.

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Uber still mad that I destroyed ubercamp.

Why would I need to hide behind private whois? My info is public.

Hating me won't make you less of a complete failure.

Have a good one, emo.


I think this thread deserved a better come back than that,

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Here's a doozie for our loyal NickyCakes fanbois. Rather than use LPLockdown for protecting my own landing pages, I figured I'd just use it to find and steal other affiliates' landing pages. This one's for Goobercamp.

Let's see how 'effective' LPLockdown is...

Step 1. Reverse IP on LPLockdown.com yields this domain: 11i.us, which was exposed on WF as a tracking url for LPLockdown.

Step 2. A simple whois confirms that Mr. Koscianski owns the domain. No Privacy Guard on your own sites and you're trying to peddle that you have to guard everything?

Step 3. Let's plug 11i.us into Compete.com and check out the referring sites. Here's a couple: thispissesjustinoff.com & justinsabs.com

Step 4. Visit justinsabs.com to confirm that Cakes magic script is on there. It is. OMG a javascript redirect off the page to another site. I must have been cloaked?$*$(*$

Step 5. Turn off javascript. For firefox users Enable Or Disable JavaScript - Firefox

Step 6. Revisit justinsabs.com. Oh look, no cloak.

Step 7. Cntrl-S to save the page. View source. Remove JS. Reupload. Page jacked kthxbye.

Let's take it a step further. Justinsabs.com must be a super dooper affiliate since he went through the trouble of cloaking his page with the "extremely effective" technology of Mr. Cakes. Let's see what else he's got running. Reverse IP justinsabs.com if you're interested, I won't out all his pages here.

Let's whois one of these at least. How about Deeboo.com - Dee Boo - | Webmaster, SEO, Internet Marketing Community. Oh look, Registrant: Justin Dupre. Wasn't he the guy who wrote Justin Dupre | Internet Marketing & Affiliate Marketing | Justin Dupre and proclaimed "The things Nick has included in this is ridiculous for any affiliate marketer." Must be one of those "satisfied customers" who can attest to how effective Cakes' service is...

Don't trash the industry for it's bullshit gurus selling things when you're doing the exact same thing yourself.
I can find lp's by using compete to look up data on affiliate network trackers. Their info is usually not private either. Does that mean I shouldn't use them?

If I want to find an LP and the traffic sources I can find a way to do it. Whether it is using compete, calling your account rep who I know will turn over your data, using domain tools archived info. There is always a way.

Nick's tool, a good one, isn't made to 100% hide your page or 100% keep it from getting stolen. It is made to keep uncreative morons from stealing your shit them moment you put it up. It is made to keep most people from stealing your page. A the tool does just that.

I've used the tool, it is good, I would recommend it for people who like to outsource this type of work (like me). This whole thread should be deleted, it is a joke.
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I'm with Uber on this one, having to disable JS to see an LP is hardly some l33t hax0ring.
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Sort of. Nicky's tool is a bit more advanced (downtime tracking, "extra" cloaking), but it's also remotely hosted which introduces problems like this one. Nicky claimed on Jon Volk's blog that this is "way faster" than Smart Tools, but I'm willing to bet that isn't really the case.

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It's a wordpress plugin, which, by nature, will be slower than almost anything out there. Plus the fact that you're pigeonholed into using wordpress for your lander makes it an apples-oranges comparison. Even the people who DO use wordpress for making landers will almost always render the page and then convert it into static html if they have decent traffic.

I do welcome you to get an account, make your own comparisons, and ask for a refund if you aren't satisfied.
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I again would love for you to demonstrate that it's slower - I seriously doubt the small (especially if you use WP Cache or convert to static HTML) overhead introduced by my plugin is larger than the DNS resolution and other issues involved in inter-domain hotlinking; and no matter what that isn't a big issue. :-)

I still don't really view us as competitors though. :-) I think your tool has a much different niche than mine; WP Smart Tools is a WordPress plugin, obviously for people who are using WordPress - and theft protection is just one small part of it.
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WP Smart tools never answers my emails and the reason I bought it, that feature doesn't even work. Are you the owner? If so PM me.
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One of the LPs outed in this thread was a jacked version. Not sure why you would need a javascript to protect that...
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Why would I need to hide behind private whois? My info is public.

Hating me won't make you less of a complete failure.

Have a good one, emo.
Way to completely circumvent the vent that two people have now completely torn apart your product. I would do something a little more on the programming side of things.
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Uber... Nice. Everyone knew what a piece of shit product he was pushing. Guess him fucking your pooper over some shit made you make the effort to do the obvious sleuthing.

Popcorn eaters in this thread: Pussies. Nothing wrong with being a fanboy (when your 8) but if your gonna make a post... sheeeeeeeeeeeeeet... grow a pair.

Dupre/Bloggers in this thread: If you silly little faggots are gonna be bitching, crying and airing your dirty laundry in public... don't get all sissy-boy when your inevitable reaming comes round.

NickyCakes/his product/the ridiculous monthly fees/the hosting/the comebacks/the excuses: Fail.

And I don't even give a shit about Uber... saying your an advertiser when haven't...no sorry, CAN'T launch an offer doens't merit much respect from me.

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.. One other thing, over here in the UK 99% of residential broadband providers allocate dynamic IPs, on a weekly or bi-weekly lease. You can sometimes pay for a static IP.

No idea what it's like in US, but this service wont be blocking anyone on a dynamic IP.

I actually implemented a hostname / IP / geo based block and redirect, plus some hidden JS on some of my sites. Running this on your own site is *much* better as you can use a server side redirect, rather than a JS redirect. The whole thing took a few hours, if that.

I guess there's value in the list of 150k IP's, but again only if those were from people on static IPs

Uptime monitoring is obviously a good idea but the dedicated uptime monitoring services start at $5/mo.

As for the theft monitor it's just a case of some obfuscated JS to post to url if it's run from a different domain than expected. An hour or so's work.

In short, the basic functionality is bonkers easy to achieve and best run on your own server.
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This trend of shitting on each others products is really annoying. Can't we all just be friends? If you don't like it than just don't buy it. Unless it's a straight scam like a keylogger or something. We're all professionals here.
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The popcorn is because it's going to be an interesting thread, it has nothing to do with being a 'fanboy' of anything. So where's your real username, why don't you grow a pair?
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The popcorn's cos your a little bitch to scared to say what you really think. My real username? This is it. I keep getting fucking banned every month cos I'm a naughty rascal! lol.

Don't worry, I shan't say any more mean things about you. I'll be nice for you.

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This thread reminds me of this one time, at band camp.............

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Good for you son. If it gets done what it is intended for then that is it... didn't know that shell companies was = ePenis size.
And your original post wasn't any less douchey? How much is a UK Ltd? £32. Real thuggee.
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I read about LPLockdown 40 minutes ago and now i see this thread. Got me excited and all, was hoping for serious drama.


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there is much i don't like about this thread.
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And your original post wasn't any less douchey? How much is a UK Ltd? £32. Real thuggee.
Listen up retard, that was about not being able to put privacy on your .us domains.
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The popcorn's cos your a little bitch to scared to say what you really think. My real username? This is it. I keep getting fucking banned every month cos I'm a naughty rascal! lol.

Don't worry, I shan't say any more mean things about you. I'll be nice for you.

Meanwhile, HOLY SHIT. The comment here are much better than my lastest vitriol: Nickycakes Gains GURU Status w/ LPLockdown (/sarcasm)
I'm not going to bash Nicky because I don't like his product, comebacks, or monthly fee.. We're all supporting ourselves in our own little ways and even though his product doesn't completely address the problem of LP hijacks (nothing ever will), it's looks easily implementable and I'm willing to bet it would deter the majority of people who are in the business of not being creative.

There's no market if people don't try to peddle. Nicky's product isn't inferior or lacking because a knowledgeable person can circumvent it, or a programmer can do the same thing for you for 200$. It's his first attempt and if it prevents the majority of page hijackers I'd say it was a success, no?

The diamond industry began with a massive marketing study to sell something with no inherent value. Perception is always greater than reality, if Nicky can successfully convince people that his product will (even though it might not) protect their LP, he's the one who's winning. There's no grey area here, you're either making money or you're not.

All the while - You're sitting on your ass, dick in hand, giving him free feedback on how to improve his product and essentially free publicity(2,254 Views). If the product wins, he'll use his profits to improve his product and might end up with the best LP protection around in a year's time. Where will you be? Still sitting there, dick in hand with your 1 post wonder account because you're a 'naughty rascal'.

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I'm not going to bash Nicky because I don't like his product, comebacks, or monthly fee.. We're all supporting ourselves in our own little ways and even though his product doesn't completely address the problem of LP hijacks (nothing ever will), it's looks easily implementable and I'm willing to bet it would deter the majority of people who are in the business of not being creative.

There's no market if people don't try to peddle. Nicky's product isn't inferior or lacking because a knowledgeable person can circumvent it, or a programmer can do the same thing for you for 200$. It's his first attempt and if it prevents the majority of page hijackers I'd say it was a success, no?

The diamond industry began with a massive marketing study to sell something with no inherent value. Perception is always greater than reality, if Nicky can successfully convince people that his product will (even though it might not) protect their LP, he's the one who's winning. There's no grey area here, you're either making money or you're not.

All the while - You're sitting on your ass, dick in hand essentially, giving him free feedback on how to improve his product and essentially free publicity(2,254 Views). If the product wins, he'll use his profits to improve his product and might end up with the best LP protection around in a year's time. Where will you be? Still sitting there, dick in hand with your 1 post wonder account because you're a 'naughty rascal'.

That's what I think.
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Listen up retard, that was about not being able to put privacy on your .us domains.
Yeah, I just read what you responded to. I suck doo-doo covered dick.

And what that guy above just wrote in response to me, I'm not going to read it. I'm going out for my nightly cottaging run.
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^ nice post zimok. /thread
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^ nice post zimok. /thread
For some reason your custom user title reminded me of that high society wannabe chick riddarhusetgal who used to post a lot ~6 months ago.

Whatever happened to that chick? I remember she was always fighting with some dude on here, chatmasta.
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For some reason your custom user title reminded me of that high society wannabe chick riddarhusetgal who used to post a lot ~6 months ago.

Whatever happened to that chick? I remember she was always fighting with some dude on here, chatmasta.
Heh. It means "Fortune Favors the Bold". I've always just liked it, I'm not pretentious at all.

Regarding riddar, haven't seen her online at all in awhile. Not sure what happened to her.
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Heh. It means "Fortune Favors the Bold". I've always just liked it, I'm not pretentious at all.
I like how you assume that's what I thought of you and yes, now I shall cross you off the list of the 3 WF people who stand out in my mind as having pretentious or snobby(is this redundant?) custom user titles (one of them was riddar and I forgot what it was, maybe it was her sig).
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I ran it a long time ago... with a different landing page.. I don't think I need to tell you what kind it was from what we've all seen from affiliate trends in the past year

Anyways, Put this new LP up to test out PPV traffic cause the old one wasn't cutting it. Neither did this one. If you don't believe me... go for it... try it.

Oh yeah! Go fuck yourself.
Hello friend,

It to late. I already steal page of landing before you take down.

I just joke friend. I no do that to you.

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^ nice post zimok. /thread

Dont /end this thread so fast. Gotta admire uber for bashing cakes and his fanboiis. Not picking a side, I just love the drama.
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Heh. It means "Fortune Favors the Bold". I've always just liked it, I'm not pretentious at all.

Regarding riddar, haven't seen her online at all in awhile. Not sure what happened to her.
wouldn't it be audentis fortuna iuvat?

Fortune Favours The Bold

One of my favorite sayings as well.

edit: nvm thats just how Virgil wrote it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortune_favours_the_bold
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lol money
money lol

isn't that what everything is about?
I'm sure hes getting people to buy it.
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