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Old 02-05-2010, 08:50 PM   #151 (permalink)
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BAHAHAHAHAH. Hilarious. Nice find.

I wondering if a de-modding is in order.

I can't imagine the founding fathers must be too happy especially after this new rule: External Images in Signatures
now this is getting good
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I would never use this product, even if it was free.

1. I don't trust nickycakes with my landing pages

2. I don't think affiliates are stupid enough to fall for the re-direct.

3. I don't want to block 150k from my landing pages (what eli said)

I have nothing against nickycakes... but since he rips other people for their shitty products, its only fair we return the favour when he realses some usless garbage script you can code in 30 minutes and charges $50 a month for it.

At least admit ur a fucken hypocrite like shoemoney did.
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Old 02-05-2010, 08:53 PM   #153 (permalink)
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I've got no dog in this fight.
I could care less about Cakes' service.
If he makes a killing selling it to n00bs then more power to him and the Obama fanboi can thank capitalism for his great fortunes. HOWEVER, what's the deal with the forum stuffing being performed by a mod? Like the fox guarding the chicken coop.
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I've got no dog in this fight.
I could care less about Cakes' service.
If he makes a killing selling it to n00bs then more power to him and the Obama fanboi can thank capitalism for his great fortunes. HOWEVER, what's the deal with the forum stuffing being performed by a mod? Like the fox guarding the chicken coop.

Recording affiliate's IPs and then try to make some money off it is pretty shady.
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I'm also a little pissed about a mod abusing his powers of seeing IPs from WF for financial benefit, if that's what happened. Where do I get my money back? haha
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lol @ people who trust nickycakes with their LPs

not to say hes a bad guy, but cmon
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Is there a Privacy Policy issue with grabbing IP's from wickedfire members then using it for 3rd-Party Stuff?
http://torrentfreak.com/collecting-i...sweden-090618/

Does anyone live in Sweden?

People that have websites or blogs might want to add a privacy policy on the bottom of there pages if they are collecting IP and data. Just to be on the save side in case you piss off the wrong person
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I had nothing to do with collecting IPs, for those thinking that.

And uber had no intention of dickrolling anyone. Hurr-durr.

And, as far as the noobs comment, I meant keeping the noobs from seeing your LP, not saying the product was just for noobs.
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:37 PM   #162 (permalink)
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Hey Sumit, what do you think about this situation?
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:54 PM   #165 (permalink)
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lol ^ probably has something to do with putting us on his:
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Yep, that's the extremely watered-down version of one part of the tool, minus the most important part, our affiliate blacklist.

http://aff.dedicakes.com/whitelist.php
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I'm also a little pissed about a mod abusing his powers of seeing IPs from WF for financial benefit, if that's what happened. Where do I get my money back? haha

Who gives a shit? He doesn't get any value from this. The fact that anyone who cares to get around his landing page protection, can, makes his spray and pray list of ip addresses even less useful. Looking at risk/reward, you're redirecting a few moron wannabe marketers from the page while unintentionally redirecting hundreds of thousands of moron non-marketers who may convert on the offer. Additionally, as someone stated, you're bringing more attention to the fact that you're likely a successful affiliate marketer whose landing pages would be worth stealing.

The theory behind this tool is fine, but you could never accurately pinpoint affiliates to block on a scale necessary to make it work. Think about it- you have 5,000 users behind a proxy working for some government agency with nothing but time on their hands. They're all coming out of the same ip address. One person tries to find ways to make money online and clicks a link to a thread with your pixel in it. You just blocked 4,999 other users, most of which are likely online all day trying to figure out how to get sexy abs or looking for free samples of a teeth whitening solution.

Even ignoring the holes above, why would someone give an affiliate marketing celebrity $50 a month to inject his code into their sites and centralize the management of it all on his own box? You fuckers don't trust Google who is making many billions in profit each year, but you're going to let Big Brother Nicky in on all your campaigns? HTML Obfuscater? He probably obfuscates his pixels into your page too so he can track your campaigns.

Nothing against him though. We're all here to make a buck and sometimes we have to get a little clever and bend ethics. If people are willing to open their wallets, fuck it - take it to the bank.
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I guess there is such thing as bad publicity. :-/
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:18 PM   #170 (permalink)
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This shit is pretty sketchy.

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I'm just spit ballin here, but it seems to me that LP Lockdown isn't supposed to keep people from jacking your pages, it is supposed to help you profit when people jack your pages.

The incentives seem to me that for $50 a month I would want my landers to get jacked by as many marketers as possible, so they could run free traffic for me. That's the stealth feature of let them run your lander for awhile, and then jack it later.

If I tried to actually run real traffic to my protected landers, how do I know my keyword and traffic data isn't being mined? Right now trust is really low in this program and how it gathers its data.

I wonder if there has been network affiliate cookie stuffing on this forum since apparently there is funky image stuff going on?

Either way, disappointing to find out about the WF data mining. Another reason to spend less time on forums and more time producing.
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eli, please remind me to hug you 24/7 and never piss you and Slightly Shady SEO off.

thx *hug*

PS: Data-Mining on WF? Well, there are a few good reasons why you would want to keep wickedfire users away from your site. Starting with the fact that many morons in here go snitch to google and other networks about cloaked pages because they cant get shit through themselves. kindergarten stuff
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so summary of page: if nicky is sketchy enough to mine our IPs, he is sketchy enough to jack your data
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I don't really, but it was still annoying enough to comment on, like someone dickrolling you.
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PS: Data-Mining on WF?
That is exactly what it is. A list of affiliate IPs is data, and collecting it on WF is data mining on WF.

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Well, there are a few good reasons why you would want to keep wickedfire users away from your site.
Ends are irrelevant. The issue here is the means.



Someone should check Dullspace and Circa's old sigs. Probably Sumit as well. Everyone's viral favorites have probably been in on it.
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I was wondering when someone would bring this up.
Shoulda known it would have been someone as brilliant as Guerilla.
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It's not a real big deal but still when your main selling point is "don't you trust Nicky?" you have some problems.
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That is exactly what it is. A list of affiliate IPs is data, and collecting it on WF is data mining on WF.


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Someone should check Dullspace and Circa's old sigs. Probably Sumit as well. Everyone's viral favorites have probably been in on it.
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this is like barry bonds getting caught using steroids to the affiliate world.

nickycakes was my number one read... but now he needs an asterisk.
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this is like barry bonds getting caught using steroids to the affiliate world.

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