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Old 02-08-2010, 09:47 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Good for you getting out of the drug mess. I think everyone knows someone these days, who's been affected by that shit.

As for the drama, this thread etc. Everyone has said their piece now. Hopefully this all blows over and everyone is happy they had their pound of flesh.

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During your time in jail, did you have support? Not necessarily on the inside, but from outside family/friends?
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During your time in jail, did you have support? Not necessarily on the inside, but from outside family/friends?
At that time my family really wanted me to be there. They even showed up at my bail hearing and told them to raise my bail to keep me in there. At the time I was PISSED, but I know now that it probably saved my life.

My folks sent me some cash for canteen, which is like, you can order ramen noodles and peanut butter and stuff like that.

When I decided I wanted to quit being a knucklehead, they were supportive and were there for my court stuff.
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:55 PM   #104 (permalink)
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+REP bro. It takes alot to be honest about doing time and being a convicted felon. Many people just look at us as "convicts" or "felons." Some people hit rock bottom and that is what they need to shape up. Some never get their acts together.

People like you should be praised for their accomplishments as opposed to ostracized for your past. Especially when the recidivism rate is 85% in the US. We are one of the few 15% who made it and turned a new leaf.

Nicky Cakes doesn't seem too hard or tough prison nick name. Was that your nick name in prison? I am sure the home boys had a different one, right?
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Nicky Cakes doesn't seem too hard or tough prison nick name. Was that your nick name in prison? I am sure the home boys had a different one, right?
Screech haha. Never did prison time though, just county.
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Old 02-08-2010, 11:32 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Good shit. I just took 9 months clean last week!
OC and crystal... nasty kick.

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Screech haha. Never did prison time though, just county.
County sucks though. Prison is a destination. You go to county and every crackhead in there is looking to roll you for a forward
.... um, I've heard somewhere.
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Glad they threw you in Jail. Otherwise you would have ended up dead and we would have had the pleasure of such soaps that we had...

But shit man.. I always thought you were like that Quadzilla guy from your tag line..
But all you did was improper use of computer.. that what you said?


H is a mean bastard. I freaked out once when one of my friends ODed on me and a couple friends. Froth and all that... And it was the first time I ever saw someone shoot themselves with H.. Number 4 as it is called. Pure Burma Grade. We had to force handful of salt in his mouth and ran like Crazy around a church half dragging him. Someone among us told that it was the way to save him lol... After an hour he became extra alert asking what happened...

Hope you never go back that road again...
But it sure must have been fun eh... in the beginning?

My Question.. Do you also do well on Adwords? Have they ban you yet??
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How was it like to make the move from a thug to a nerd? Did you have any battles you fought within you regarding the change? I'm guessing you had some old friends from your "previous life" which you had to leave behind due to your new change. Did you ever start to feel like you were in the wrong place by being around 4 eyed geeks instead of your usual hardcore fellas? (or did you just stay as a loner during these "hard times" ?)
Most people in this industry aren't "nerds" by definition. I was pretty surprised by that at my first conference. I did move away from home though. I don't talk to my old friends much but I have some of them on facebook.
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Anyone can take classes at the extension school, but to get into the degree program you need to do really well your first semester and then apply.

Most of the classes are the same profs and same assignments that the kids are taking in the day school undergrad program. I don't feel like it helped me out, no, and I didn't do any networking while I was there. I did learn a bit in a couple of the computer science courses, mostly my algorithms ones, but that's about it. I just straight up can't stand school. Even stuff I'm interested in like history I can't pay attention. *shrug*
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Yes, a lot actually. This one dude I hadn't talked to in years sent me a msg the other day asking me if the shoemoney system was worth buying, lol.
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I respect your story. I was born in frederick and lived in maryland and pennsylvania for a significant portion of my life. Baltimore is a fucking terrible place for that kind of crap where I've used and abused and had many friends around that area addicted to smack, coke, oxys, whatever. Had a job in frederick before I moved west and it was a shitty year, I had nothing together and a lot of my friends were addicts. The only decent drug experience from there was when I went to the aquarium on 2 hits of acid. I was a new man when I walked out of that place.

I'm glad I got out obviously. I still lead a pretty hedonistic lifestyle that I need to clean up, I'm trying to work on it.

The hardest would be quitting everything altogether. You say you don't drink anymore, I'm not sure I could do that. Congrats, since you've come out of it all and are in a better place now.
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Did anyone ever try to rape you in prison? Serious Q? This was always my num1 fear of going to jail.
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Dude, nobody gets raped in county unless you're willing and you find a fruit who desires to ram rod you.
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I spent several years in prison and that shit was never an issue. There are so many willing fuckboys inside that if you aren't gay you don't get fucked with. I did see guys get in too deep with gambling debts and heard rumors but its nothing like TV tries to make it out to be.
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No. And I wasn't in prison, I was in jail. Big difference.
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How were you able to get an apartment with your criminal background ?

I got a DWI when I was 18, and my buildings management company made a fuss over that, so I could imagine...
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I got a DWI when I was 18, and my buildings management company made a fuss over that, so I could imagine...
ive never heard of building companies doing background checks or even asking about criminal history. guess you just got unlucky.
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True for the most part. Mostly you have guys who are 24/7 gay and willing to go to a secluded part of the mod with whoever. Then you have a ton of people (lots of mexicans, actually) who are only gay in prison/jail.

Among the mexicans, pre and post op trannies who are bi are extremely popular. Like never having to buy store popular.

In jail you really have to put out mixed signals to get propositioned. Prison, not so much. You can run across the odd guy raper in jail, but it way rare. Met 2 inmates who would regularly force smaller/helpless guys to have sex. Master manipulators who, while not that big, had an air of barely controlled violence
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I spent several years in prison and that shit was never an issue. There are so many willing fuckboys inside that if you aren't gay you don't get fucked with. I did see guys get in too deep with gambling debts and heard rumors but its nothing like TV tries to make it out to be.
Rape in women's prisons/jails is a growing problem. I think it is less of a problem in the jail I'm at now since administrators are focusing on abiding by PREA.
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Nick what was your motivation or that that pushing factor that got you into affiliate marketing and succeeding so much. I know you worked you ass off learning all the stuff but what was it that pushed you so much.
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Well seems I got a lot to learn about prison and jail, not being from the US. We just got ourselves the one type here(of course high and low security for different types of criminals).

Is the difference between jail and prison something got to do with privatization.
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Is the difference between jail and prison something got to do with privatization.
I don't think many jails are privatized. More prisons are privatized than jails.

Jail is where you go when you're arrested. Prison is where you go when you're convicted. It's ok to go to jail. Prison's where you want to avoid being.
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Nick what was your motivation or that that pushing factor that got you into affiliate marketing and succeeding so much. I know you worked you ass off learning all the stuff but what was it that pushed you so much.
There was this girl I wanted to get back with who I thought would be impressed if I could buy her expensive stuff. I quickly learned that you don't need to buy anything for girls for them to want you, having money is enough. (before i get lots of backlash, not all girls are like this, just most).

Once I started doing well, my motivation changed to me just wanting to build a successful business so that I'd never have a boss again. Once you get a taste of that, I think it's hard to go back.
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Well seems I got a lot to learn about prison and jail, not being from the US. We just got ourselves the one type here(of course high and low security for different types of criminals).

Is the difference between jail and prison something got to do with privatization.

Where I was, prison was only used for serving sentences of a year or more. If you were waiting for trial or sentenced to something under a year, you would be sent to county.

According to people I've talked to, it's preferable to be in prison because there is much more to do and you aren't stuck in one place all day. For me, I actually was hanging out with people i knew from highschool most of the time playing spades and dominoes and watching tv. Food was fucking awful, and I can remember the best meal I ever ate was taco bell as soon as I got out.
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Taking this from a different slant:

I work in an alternative high school in an moderate to affluent suburban area. 90% of our kids are labeled "at risk" and we have a huge drug problem not on campus but with recreational use outside of school coming into the classroom.

Question for all of you who've gone clean or not - is there anything that might have dissuaded you from getting in as deep as you did in high school?

One person I knew who spent more than a few years with drugs blames (to an extent) lax parenting from a single mother who was never around and indulged in her own recreational activities with the full knowledge of her children. In a situation like that - is there any hope that the kid can walk away without drug or alcohol trouble?
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@internetauthor lost a few years of my life in hs to pretty heavy psychedelic use. wound up being an adolescent drug and sexual perp counselor for a few years after i got my shit together.

i worked with a lot of tough kids, and to answer your question, the answer is kinda not. most (not all just most) kids that age aren't fucking around with drugs that are heavily physically dependent and aren't heavy enough users to even by psychologically dependent. it's a reaction against authority compounded by the fact that kids feel invincible. that's why abstinence education (12 steps etc) have such a high recidivism rate in teens. teens think too much of themselves to believe they're powerless over anything.

best success i had was to not demonize drugs but to tell them stories of my successful pothead friends. then explain to them that, unfortunately, at this phase in their life if they want to be free to do their shit there are a few ground rules. they can get back to smoking or whatever once they're out of the house, but for now they have to play the game.

that started to work really well - i had 10 kids under my care in an inpatient program, and 3-4 of them flipped. still hear from 2 of them now and then, 10 years later.

administration obviously didn't like it though, so we parted ways. as a teacher, you're kind of fucked as i'm sure you have to tout the 'drugs are evil' party line.
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i worked with a lot of tough kids, and to answer your question, the answer is kinda not. most (not all just most) kids that age aren't fucking around with drugs that are heavily physically dependent and aren't heavy enough users to even by psychologically dependent. it's a reaction against authority compounded by the fact that kids feel invincible. that's why abstinence education (12 steps etc) have such a high recidivism rate in teens. teens think too much of themselves to believe they're powerless over anything.

best success i had was to not demonize drugs but to tell them stories of my successful pothead friends. then explain to them that, unfortunately, at this phase in their life if they want to be free to do their shit there are a few ground rules. they can get back to smoking or whatever once they're out of the house, but for now they have to play the game.

that started to work really well - i had 10 kids under my care in an inpatient program, and 3-4 of them flipped. still hear from 2 of them now and then, 10 years later.

administration obviously didn't like it though, so we parted ways. as a teacher, you're kind of fucked as i'm sure you have to tout the 'drugs are evil' party line.
I was a case manager for these kids/men/women. You know, making sure they go to their programs, getting them into new programs, taking care of their welfare etc. I was in and out of some pretty rough ghetto going to these programs/houses three times a week. In short, they would have had to pay me 200k to stay at that job. I was making 27,500! Fuckkkkkkk that! 99.9% of these people blew off their counseling, which meant I had to report to their P.O.s and back to jail they went.
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bro there is nothing worse than working in an inpatient program for juvenile sexual offenders. they're hitting on you 1/2 the time and meanwhile you have to teach them about responsible, "normal" consensual sexuality - they have to ask you permission. to. fucking. jerk. off. worst. experience. ever.

and then they have to "process" the jerk off fantasy. which is code for they have to tell you what they whacked it to. and most of the time it is another patient, or staff, and yes sometimes it is you.

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bro there is nothing worse than working in an inpatient program for juvenile sexual offenders. they're hitting on you 1/2 the time and meanwhile you have to teach them about responsible, "normal" consensual sexuality - they have to ask you permission. to. fucking. jerk. off. worst. experience. ever.

and then they have to "process" the jerk off fantasy. which is code for they have to tell you what they whacked it to. and most of the time it is another patient, or staff, and yes sometimes it is you.

fucking terrible.
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lol wasnt trying to win. just made me think of it and it made me throw up in my mouth a bit so i figured i'd ruin someone else's night too.
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Hey it's inspiring to read this thread I'm also a recovering addict and now what it takes to get your shit together and start living again. I'm celebrating 4 years in 2 weeks and feel like a winner. What I haven't done in years though is been to a meeting and I rationalize it away. Do you still go regularly on weekly basis. I remember I did 120 meetings in 120 days, but I just can't find it in me to go anymore even though I learned a lot, how's Vegas for meetings? I'm moving there in May with some other Am guys.

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Hey it's inspiring to read this thread I'm also a recovering addict and now what it takes to get your shit together and start living again. I'm celebrating 4 years in 2 weeks and feel like a winner. What I haven't done in years though is been to a meeting and I rationalize it away. Do you still go regularly on weekly basis. I remember I did 120 meetings in 120 days, but I just can't find it in me to go anymore even though I learned a lot, how's Vegas for meetings? I'm moving there in May with some other Am guys.

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No, of course I wouldn't. I had to go through all that bullshit to get where I am now.

However, that has nothing to do with any "creativity" that I may or may not have gotten by using drugs. I'm assuming you're trying to suggest that smoking weed or doing other shit helps you work better or something. That was never the case for me.
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