Jon

This is a response to both drama threads about LPlockdown and Nicky's ask him anything thread....

I don't really get how you guys can go from hating on Nicky to bashing Uber in the span of a few minutes. The two threads aren't all that similar. One is outting him for what some people think view as a violation of their privacy and trust and the other is him outting himself with all of the details of his drug and criminal past.

Uber has every right to be vigilant and pissed off, I mean can you really blame him? If I were him I would have smacked the shit out of him a long time ago, but instead he took the patient route (he was also really really depressed, but he didn't come out and say it, but you had to be BLIND not to see that!) and jumped on the chance to do just about the same fucking thing Nicky did to him.

Then again, Nicky does have a pretty turbulent past as he's shown by posting above and it does take a lot of guts to come out and openly admit to some of the really fucking stupid things he did, but he did the jail time and he's obviously learned his lesson, the hard way.

I'm not going to take sides at all here. Just calling it how I see it with the same information you guys have.

I think Uber is 100% justified for being pissed and milking this for what its worth, Nicky sure as hell didn't hold anything back when he would wail on Paul for the weird shit he blogged about, and certainly turned almost an entire community into a "fuck you uber" fest for a hell of a lot longer than just a few days. It dragged on for MONTHS. Some of it was funny and amusing, but you can't really believe that it didn't go on and on for too long, and that Nicky doesn't deserve a lot of this shit now.

He's right, many of you are sheep if you can't see that this is a sorta desperate or last ditch PR stunt type of thing. Its no coincidence that Nicky posted this to try and divert attention away from the shit fest in that other thread, and sure, maybe Paul is being a bit trigger happy, but he was kicked when he was down, and that's a fucked up thing to do to someone, and you would do the same fucking thing if it were done to you.

Look at it this way, you guys are constantly fucking with people left and right and not taking into consideration that there are ALWAYS consequences. Like the Waggenheim threads. Aside for being really creepy and just your average liar, what has he really done to any of you? Nothing. But here you guys are quick to forgive and forget and just target the guy more convenient and fun to pick on? Well, I'm not going to just sit by and keep quiet about this shit anymore. Heads are going to roll.

The reason I've been keeping quiet about it thus far is I was really hoping things would take its course, unfuck itself, and eventually blow over. Lessons would be learned, and harmony and lulz with plenty of hurr-durr and fails would assume its daily role. But this drama fest is getting out of hand.

As soon as the other admins and mods taking their investigative approach and have submitted their findings we'll post our report on it and ultimately our decision, and then I don't want to see anymore of this shit afterwards, or I will take action against you personally.

Overall, this is a FUBAR situation and I've had enough. Stop treating eachother like shit all the time. Hazing the new guys or joking around is fine, but lately you fuckheads have been going too far. So either you stop yourself, or I'll stop you.

Leave your smart ass comments to yourself this time, because you know I'm right about this.

Now unlike most of you faggots, I have work to do to make monies, so when I am good and ready I'll post everything up. Until then, quit fighting eachother and go do us both a favor and make yourselves money.

Kids these days...

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tygoldberg

lol

I think you're holding back, you need to tell us how you really feel and this time please dont hold back.


the thing is people like drama, it's like highschool.

sometime i wonder what happen to being a man...


edit- it's not like high school, more like middle school.

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GooeySlate

I'm curious... why have you just sat by and kept quiet for so long? You have a fucking creep Mod post the passport scan and entire life details of some kid who made a stupid mistake and your forum is completely polluted by hurr-durr losers. Why is Nickycakes raping the last straw?

circa

make money not drama

zimok

Why did all of super's posts get deleted in nicky's thread?

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GrindTim3

Yeah, cakes is a fucking hypocrite, we all know that now. I was fine with Uber bashing cakes. But then he just kept spamming cakes' thread.... He just seems like a drama queen. Personally, judging from their posts, one is not better or worse than the other.

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internet people produce teh lulz

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dreamache

This whole thing is a learning experience, and a prime example of Karma. Watch who you attack, the whole thing can come back at you, justified or not. Unnecessarily burning bridges is never a good thing.

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SUP3RNOVA

Sorry, wasn't trying to start drama coming in that other thread. Just couldn't believe how funny it was that all you people fell for that. Not my fault you all took it personally and decided to flip out on me...hence making it drama.

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Fatbat

Exactly, along with my post questioning the thread manipulation. I don't necessarily agree with everything that was said but I believe Super has the right to call Nicky out for his motives instead of having them moved to another thread where they are no longer in context.

What gives?

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GrindTim3

Pissed me off too. Burn the torches.

200th post!!!! Woot Woot

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Fatbat

Grats! Post some boobies.

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Roddy

I saw what you said fatbat! Your post was deleted completely though!

EDIT: Shit, sorry! You already knew that!

GooeySlate

^ QFT. What a complete and utter clusterfuck. A Mod (or his bestest chums) allowed to edit crowd accepted criticism of himself.

Ban EVERYONE!

Grindstone

Whatever, you both look like ass clowns right now, Cakes slightly less so because he took a fucked up situation (some fuckhead posting his criminal background on an indexed forum is total fucking bullshit, that guy should get Theimed beyond belief) and went full disclosure mode rather than letting that fuel the other shitshow he stepped into.

Get over it and get to fucking work, since you've obviously got the skills to reverse engineer Cakes's tool (LOL), why not build a better one and sell it for what you think it's worth than waste your time looking like a douch?

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SUP3RNOVA

I'm sorry I have no criminal record for people to bring up so I could make a thread explaining how I came out of it a hero. I guess that makes me a huge ass clown.

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Webwonder

From the other thread.

GrindTim3

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Jon

Because he chose to remove it or delete it. I left that call up to him. Don't go blaming me. Take it up with him.

Make your own thread about it then.. No one will stop you from doing that.

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Jon

Link?

I sit by because I have no patience for fighting anymore. I know who is worth sticking up for and who isn't. I know who my real friends are and who aren't. Most of all though, this industry is so fucked in the head that I chose to take a back seat to everything and let things play out and unfuck itself. I could care less these days. Nowadays I am making more money than ever before and my life is drama-free, I don't work on weekends, and I have a social life again, the way it was BEFORE WickedFire. I like that lifestyle. I don't like being a web-celeb, so I took down my blog. I want to go back into the shadows and mind my own damn business.

THAT is why stuff like this pisses me off, because its pointless, counterproductive for everyone, and it shouldn't concern me. But somehow things alwayssssss find a fucking way of concerning the forum that can't be handled by some one else...

"Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in!"
- Michael Corleone

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Grindstone

No, it's the fact that you keep going into multiple threads stirring up more shit.

You blasted him, sit back and enjoy it like a man.

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Magic Hat

Can someone please change the thread icon so that people working in offices aren't surprisingly greeted by spread vaginas? Thank you.

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zimok

I'm not blaming anyone, you can't edit posts after 5 minutes so a mod had to do it. If he initiated those actions, kudos to him. Everyone browsing would of though there was unnecessary post manipulation, better to clear that up now then let confidence slide. There's still a lot to be said about trust, thanks for clearing it up.

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GooeySlate

If you wanted to ruin someone's life....

Well, either sit back, collect the referral commissions from this forum and leave it carry on being a drama-pit or do some serious house-cleaning. You got the forum this far into the community, shame to let a property deteriorate.

Set up a Mod that's hardline and doens't give a shit about circle-jerks at ASW. Set up a Mod that fucking moderates and bans douchebags like me and 3/4 of the regular posters!

Uzzz

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rogerrabbit

That's all I needed to know.....

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kingfish

That vagina isn't really spread. But I see where you're coming from I suppose even though she did go through all the trouble of waxing and possibly bleaching her asshole for you.

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kingfish

I LOL'D

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DTAlexONE

I'm still waiting for the ppc.bz post.

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Jon is fucking right.

It takes a lot of sweat and love to put together a product and it takes just 5 seconds for someone to look at it and shit on it.

I can understand where Uber is coming from

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maverick

I have been a member of WF for a few years now and agree with Jon when he says its about time things are cleaned up for the better. If you read early posts you will see plenty of abuse, slagging and ridiculing but there was always a common respect between everyone.

This industry was built on innovation, gaming the system and no sleep which is why so many super affiliates have done so well. I really don’t give a fuck if Cakes grabbed my I.P cause at the end of the day it just means he’s found another way to play this game.
Affiliates will always be seen as the shady side of online marketing and as such we should all respect each other and stop trying to fuck each other upas there are enough people in this world who would like to stop us banking.

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NickyGates | ppc.bz

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SUP3RNOVA

I just read this thread and shake my head and sigh.

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JamesH

So much drama in the WF

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BeerNuts

sometimes its hard being nick to the single y.

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BullsEye

You all need to smoke a blunt together, end of story

Uzzz that is fuckin awesome, i loled

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extremely weak

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unfadable858

Jon

You created a lot of the environment for this forum. Such as your post on Shoe Money and calling Amit Mehta a super affiliate camel.
So now you are mad at the type of posts that the members make and the vulgarity they contain???

Give me a break dude.

ThatSwissIMGuy

At this point I would like to congratulate NickyCakes for one of the best set up self-promotion campaigns I've ever seen.

Using the drama to make such a huge fucking deal out of nothing was great work and I bet traffic to his blog and his LPThing rose by at least 50% over the last 3 days.

Nicely done! Cheers!

ricdes

damn dude the blonde is niceeeeee. well done.

@jon: agree. blogs= drama. WF= drama.

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eliquid

this thread was full of fail, until the tits

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SUP3RNOVA

How is this in any way good advertising?

His service got ripped to shreds, anybody that reads any of these threads or posts and still buys LPLockdown is a fool.

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barman

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metoo

Just for the record, Wankenheim has personally been an asshole to me (as a self proclaimed newb, back in the day) and continues to act like a super snob know it all - even today.

That guy earns his rep.

johu

My opinion is that anyone who bought that to begin with is a fool. Props for pointing out the flaws, but at the same time, no thanks for ruining an exploit that some of us had figured out and were going to try to take advantage of...

bgd2010

Selling Rule #1: Don't sell people what you got. Sell them what they want.

Props to cakes for putting something out there that people want, even if by wanting it they are defining themselves as fools. He's the one making $50/PMPM x how many members?