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Old 04-14-2010, 02:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Interesting 2012 Poll - Barack Obama: 42%, Ron Paul: 41%

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Election 2012: Barack Obama 42%, Ron Paul 41% - Rasmussen Reports

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Pit maverick Republican Congressman Ron Paul against President Obama in a hypothetical 2012 election match-up, and the race is – virtually dead even.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of likely voters finds Obama with 42% support and Paul with 41% of the vote. Eleven percent (11%) prefer some other candidate, and six percent (6%) are undecided.

Ask the Political Class, though, and it’s a blowout. While 58% of Mainstream voters favor Paul, 95% of the Political Class vote for Obama.

But Republican voters also have decidedly mixed feelings about Paul, who has been an outspoken critic of the party establishment.

Obama earns 79% support from Democrats, but Paul gets just 66% of GOP votes. Voters not affiliated with either major party give Paul a 47% to 28% edge over the president.

Paul, a anti-big government libertarian who engenders unusually strong feelings among his supporters, was an unsuccessful candidate for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008. But he continues to have a solid following, especially in the growing Tea Party movement.

Twenty-four percent (24%) of voters now consider themselves a part of the Tea Party movement, an eight-point increase from a month ago. Another 10% say they are not a part of the movement but have close friends or family members who are.

(Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

Thirty-nine percent (39%) of all voters have a favorable opinion of Paul, while 30% view him unfavorably. This includes 10% with a very favorable opinion and 12% with a very unfavorable one. But nearly one-out-of-three voters (32%) are not sure what they think of Paul.

Perhaps tellingly, just 42% of Republican voters have a favorable view of him, including eight percent (8%) with a very favorable opinion. By comparison, 42% of unaffiliated voters regard him favorably, with 15% very favorable toward him.

Twenty-six percent (26%) of GOP voters think Paul shares the values of most Republican voters throughout the nation, but 25% disagree. Forty-nine percent (49%) are not sure.

Similarly, 27% of Republicans see Paul as a divisive force in the party, while 30% view him as a new direction for the GOP. Forty-two percent (42%) aren’t sure.

Among all voters, 19% say Paul shares the values of most Republican voters, and 27% disagree. Fifty-four percent (54%) are undecided.

Twenty-one percent (21%) of voters nationwide regard Paul as a divisive force in the GOP. Thirty-four percent (34%) say he is representative of a new direction for the party. Forty-five percent (45%) are not sure.

But it’s important to note than 75% of Republicans voters believe Republicans in Congress have lost touch with GOP voters throughout the nation over the past several years.

Sarah Palin, the former governor of Alaska and the GOP’s vice presidential nominee in 2008, is another Republican who has been bucking the party’s traditional leadership and was the keynote speaker at the recent Tea Party convention in Nashville. Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Republican voters say Palin shares the values of most GOP voters throughout the nation. Just 18% of Republicans see Palin as a divisive force within the GOP.

Rasmussen Reports released survey findings yesterday that take a closer look at the political views of those who say they’re part of the Tea Party movement. Among other things, 96% of those in the movement think America is overtaxed, and 94% trust the judgment of the American people more than that of America’s political leaders.

When it comes to major issues confronting the nation, 48% of voters now say the average Tea Party member is closer to their views than Obama is. Forty-four percent (44%) hold the opposite view and believe the president’s views are closer to their own.

Fifty-two percent (52%) believe the average member of the Tea Party movement has a better understanding of the issues facing America today than the average member of Congress. Thirty-five percent (35%) of voters now think Republicans and Democrats are so much alike that an entirely new political party is needed to represent the American people. Nearly half (47%) of voters disagree and say a new party is not needed

If the Tea Party was organized as a political party, 34% of voters would prefer a Democrat in a three-way congressional race. In that hypothetical match-up, the Republican gets 27% of the vote with the Tea Party hopeful in third at 21%. However, if only the Democrat or Republican had a real chance to win, most of the Tea Party supporters would vote for the Republican.
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Sarah Palin being compared to Ron Paul. If that kind of that kind of ridiculous polarity in party views doesn't come to some sort of resolution, the Republican party will never find their footing again.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sarah Palin being compared to Ron Paul. If that kind of that kind of ridiculous polarity in party views doesn't come to some sort of resolution, the Republican party will never find their footing again.
Comparing Palin to Paul is like comparing someone who knows what they believe in, versus someone who isn't quite sure what to believe in until someone can tell em 100% sure what to believe in.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If I was BO I'd be paranoid that my mainstream persona and nifty catch phrases can only beat a no-namer (to the main stream voting idiot anyways) like Ron Paul by 1%.

I skip happily to 2012.
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And subigo's stalkerish obsession with the Hannity forums and conservatives in general is fairly disturbing. You get the impression he's sitting in the dark somewhere furiously masterbating to the Hannity threads, his sallow complexion dimly lit by the glow of the computer monitor as he creepily cackles to himself.





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Polls don't mean shit at this point. CNN did a poll recently too with decidedly different results:

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LOL @ comparing the validity of a CNN poll vs Rasmussen
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Old 04-14-2010, 03:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 04-14-2010, 03:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 04-14-2010, 03:11 PM   #9 (permalink)
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ronpaul2012.com isn't taken, LoZ. Go for it!
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You could do RonPaul.in and make it a url http://RonPaul.In/2012/

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Ron Paul will be 77 by the time of the 2012 election. That's pretty up there, for whatever it's worth. I know McCain got a lot of flack for his age in 2008, when he was only 72.

I support him, but I lean on the side of people who say he's got too much baggage to be a main stream candidate. Ron Paul's significance, much like the importance of that polling data, is exposure for what he represents.

However, his son Rand is running for senator in Kentucky and is polling way ahead in the Republican primary...hope for the future
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It's refreshing that people are being more open to an "alternative" candidate, but it would be very easy to use Paul's own words to turn much of the public against him. 1 in 4 voters is over age 60. How are they going to react to continuous sound bites on their televisions of Paul saying he wants to get rid of their social security?

The Dems would do everything they could to make sure people know that he also wants to get rid of public education, unemployment benefits, aid to Israel, etc. The more focus on an election, the harder it is to win if too many voting blocs think you are against them.
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the CNN poll is for primaries - compare it to the General one, where Paul is the only one within the margin of error for the general election, meaning he's Tied.
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