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Old 05-23-2010, 11:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It blows, don't waste your time. That is all.




Seriously...that's the end? Horrid fucking writing.
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I personally think it ended well.
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ehh... i liked it... not sure what you wanted... but it was a great episode

what happened on the island was real... and the flash sideways was purgatory...

i thought it was a pretty good way to rope it all together

at the end when they were all together... no longer were they "lost" so it was time to move on or "let go"
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Lots of movies end like this , semi-open ended , requiring everyone to talk/debate on some of the meanings.

It was better than I expected.
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wtf is the only conclusion i can come up with after watching
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The flash-sideways church stuff was definitely phoned in. And the fight scene between Jack and Locke was pretty hilariously awful.

But overall...eh...whatever.
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I was kind of disappointed but it was ok they still never really explained most shit that went down on the island I just get the idea that the writers couldn't even imagine anything that would make sense after everything.
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what happened to the black dude and his son? i expected to see them in the end.
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what happened to the black dude and his son? i expected to see them in the end.
oh ya. they totally left them out and they made his son looked like some messiah in the beginning.
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Liked the multi religious symbols in the church. Jewish, Christian, Muslim so on and so forth. Nice little details.
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what happened to the black dude and his son? i expected to see them in the end.
maybe they didnt die yet... since they weren't in the flash sideways... all i can think of
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Overall it ended well. It wasn't how I predicted. I thought the side ways world and the island world were going to meet and confusion ensues. But this ending does make sense the more I think of it. I'm satisfied.
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Are you guys serious?

They did nothing but open up more questions about the already pointless ending because they're all dead.

What in the fuck was black smoke? Those symbols? Corking the 'light'?

They just chose not to explain the deaths of anybody else that was in that church and also 'dead' (ie all the people on the plane that appeared to get away).

Unless I'm missing something...
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Are you guys serious?

They did nothing but open up more questions about the already pointless ending because they're all dead.

What in the fuck was black smoke? Those symbols? Corking the 'light'?

The fact that they realize they're dead would mean anything after that plane crash would be fake...meaning is the plane crash is when they died. That would mean Dharma, smoke monster, Richard...all of that not even real. OR they just chose not to explain the deaths of anybody else that was in that church and also 'dead' (ie all the people on the plane that appeared to get away).

Unless I'm missing something...
You have to let go.

And they never died in the plane crash.
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Meh... its just TV.
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You have to let go.

And they never died in the plane crash.
Yeah I edited my post after thinking about that as you were quoting my old one.
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oh ya. they totally left them out and they made his son looked like some messiah in the beginning.
The kid would be like 20 now it would make no sense
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For being the season of "revealing all", they revealed nothing other than solving the storyline they just created that season. All of the good questions went unanswered.
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Are you guys serious?

They did nothing but open up more questions about the already pointless ending because they're all dead.

What in the fuck was black smoke? Those symbols? Corking the 'light'?

They just chose not to explain the deaths of anybody else that was in that church and also 'dead' (ie all the people on the plane that appeared to get away).

Unless I'm missing something...
They explained everyones death they said we all die sometime and so the sideways time was during some indeterminate time in the future after everyone had died be it 20 years or 2000
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They explained everyones death they said we all die sometime and so the sideways time was during some indeterminate time in the future after everyone had died be it 20 years or 2000
this... the church didn't have a "now" or time ... also at the end the DOG lies next to him... and at the end hes supposed to be next to GOD

i thought it was pretty epic... worth the 6 years
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For being the season of "revealing all", they revealed nothing other than solving the storyline they just created that season. All of the good questions went unanswered.
This is true things remaining unclear

Is the smoke monster actually dead?
Why do all of the spirits of everyone who dies on the island seem to stay around?
What was the smoke monster and the light and the wheel?
How come the rules of who could hurt or kill who only worked sometimes?
How did Jacobs foster mom get on the island?

And many many more
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they're going over it on jimmy kimmel now..
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This is true things remaining unclear

Is the smoke monster actually dead?
Why do all of the spirits of everyone who dies on the island seem to stay around?
What was the smoke monster and the light and the wheel?
How come the rules of who could hurt or kill who only worked sometimes?
How did Jacobs foster mom get on the island?

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They'll have a lost movie and make us pay for it.
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Kristen Shepard shot JR. Now you know, the rrrest of the story.
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Why do all of the spirits of everyone who dies on the island seem to stay around?
What was the smoke monster and the light and the wheel?
How come the rules of who could hurt or kill who only worked sometimes?
How did Jacobs foster mom get on the island?
LMAO. Having never seen the show and reading questions like this make me glad I didn't waste my time.
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We got so caught up circlejerking each other at our lost finale official cocktail party that we forgot to watch it.
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they're going over it on jimmy kimmel now..
LOL are you watching it? It's as big of a joke as the show, all of the actors are just saying they don't know wtf happened either.
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saw it and expected nothing less

writers suck, acting is terrible, editing is elementary

case in point: the show never had a plot, it just had a lot of hype and touched subject matter _everyone_ was curious in. ABC is happy. the actors are happy. viewers are happy because 90% of your average viewer loves happy-touchey-feel good "philosophical" stories, even if they are completely non logical and full of holes.
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Man some of you guys just don't get it. Goober, you should stick to south park re-runs. Maybe that's more on your level.

The finale was epic. LOST is easily the most meaningful TV series ever IMO.

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I don't really care that many questions weren't answered. Ive learned to let go. I honestly could care less what the smoke monster is, or what the symbols mean now. Before I did, now I dont. The finale made me realize how attached I had become to the characters, and the show. How many emotional rollercoasters and exciting climaxes we've been through....what a great show. Followed the show for what...6 years and now its over. No other show's finale has made me feel like I lost something dear to me as cheesy as that may sound. I enjoyed the way it ended. It was an epic, epic story.
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Agreed. This finale was so well written, produced, acted and directed it will go down as some of the finest hours in television history. Mark my words.

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Bottom line is that the same people who say it sucked the way it currently ended wouldve said it sucked if they knew all the answers and are probably the same people who think Starcraft 2 will suck. People are never satisfied, and refuse to look at positives. The show kept an audience on the edge for nearly 6 years. It would not have been half the show it was if we knew all of the answers. Asking questions, having to draw your own conclusions, etc. is what made this show great. Complain all you want, but this show will go down as one of, if not the best TV show in history, just the same as starcraft 2 will be the biggest video game release in history.

I thought it was good, obviously ill be thinking about all those questions, but if I knew the answers it would not be so compelling.
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I almost think those thinking the ending was good never actually watched the whole series.

The ending explained nothing in a MYSTERY series. One expects most of the mysteries to come to light at the end of a MYSTERY story.

As far as I can tell, they actually added more contradictions to the story-line than explanations.
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I almost think those thinking the ending was good never actually watched the whole series.

The ending explained nothing in a MYSTERY series. One expects most of the mysteries to come to light at the end of a MYSTERY story.

As far as I can tell, they actually added more contradictions to the story-line than explanations.
Wtf do you want explained. Go ahead and make a list. If you knew all the answers would it still be as interesting? No because its a fucking mystery. If you knew how a magician does all his shit, would it still be cool, no because its a fucking mystery. Having to fill in your own blanks, draw your own conclusions, etc is what made the show great.

And how did they add more contradictions, please elaborate.
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Here's the thing. There's two things that LOST was always about, the mystery of the island and the characters. The end wrapped up the character piece more or less, purgatory nonsense aside, but did jack shit to even remotely wrap anything up about the mystery of the island.

To me, even more so then before, knowing now that everything on that island was irrelevant to the "end" makes it even more interesting to me. Some remote island that just has crazy shit going down on it for thousands of years in a cyclical nature. All of our characters just met each other there and were simply passing through it all. It ends up coming back full circle to being unsatisfied that this crazy wasn't explained further.

People will jump to say "it's a mystery you're not supposed to know all the answers" but I think that's unfair to those that watch it for that. It's always been about both the island and the characters.

If you watched the show from the start there is no doubt that you would be emotionally touched by this ending episode. They played everyone by taking every emotional connection made throughout the entire series and put them all together in a happily ever after everyone hugs each other reality (so to speak). This is still at its core just poor writing regardless of how clever it was done and after the euphoria wears off I think a lot of people will feel a bit disappointed still. Cleverly unimaginative if ever a thing were to exist.

I couldn't honestly tell you if I would ever tell someone to watch the entire series from start to finish. Maybe seasons 1-3.

While I may be "emotionally" satisfied by that ending, I was certainly not intellectually satisfied.
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I think, most of this show is just one big biblical reference. I wont type it all out, but heres one page that has some of the references.
Biblical References - LOST

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Christ figures
Eloise Hawking sends her son Daniel Faraday to the island with foreknowledge of his death. This corresponds roughly with the Christian concept of God intentionally sending his son Jesus Christ to die as an atoning sacrifice. ("The Variable")
Locke's mother claims that Locke was immaculately conceived, although she misuses the term, implying that Locke did not have a human father. ("Deus Ex Machina")
When the fuselage survivors put Benjamin Linus into the Swan's armory, he hangs on the wall in a manner which is reminiscent of the crucifixion. ("Dave")
Dave's urging of Hurley to over-eat, and to throw himself off of the cliff, a reference to the temptations issued by Satan to Jesus during his 40-days in the desert prior to his public ministry. ("Dave")

Locke's father's presumed surname is Cooper, meaning Locke's real initials are J.C. (reference to Jesus Christ).
When Sayid is lifted from the waters of The Temple, his body assumes the form of the Crucified Christ. He is believed to be dead, but later revives (resurrects). ("LA X, Part 2")
Young Jacob appears to the Man in Black and Sawyer with bloody arms stretched out similar to Christ presenting himself to the doubting Apostle Thomas in John 20:25-28. ("The Substitute")
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I think when you look at stuff like this, youll have a few aha moments, and although everything wont be revealed, and perhaps its all a coincidence, but I think its pretty interesting.
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Wtf do you want explained. Go ahead and make a list. If you knew all the answers would it still be as interesting? No because its a fucking mystery. If you knew how a magician does all his shit, would it still be cool, no because its a fucking mystery. Having to fill in your own blanks, draw your own conclusions, etc is what made the show great.
Well considering everything you just wrote I think we just have 100% opposite desires in life and stories. And that's fine. The drama was fine, but if i watch a murder mystery.. i want to find out who did it in the end especially after the writer taunts me with the subject.

This show has been like watching a 2 hour movie where 20 people are just pointing up into the sky saying "OH MY GOD, OH MY GOD", "I CAN'T BELIEVE IT", "IT'S SO AMAZING", "WHAT IS THAT, WHAT IS THAT". And then the movie ends w/out ever showing what they were all looking at, or even having them talk about what they're looking at. Hmm, not satisfying to me.

It's called a TEASE.

Ataraxy has it right, they only worked with the character's and emotions in the finale and left tons of island's largest mysteries completely unexplained.

What do I want explained? Pretty much at least a few of the biggest mysteries about the island.. for fucks sake. If i need to list them then you've never watched the show.

What we got here is the longest tease known to man.
And why was the Island more like Purgatory than Purgatory was... with it's crazy mysteries and occurrences.
I want to be done with even pondering this jerk-off.
But my guess is the writers got called out on the original Island idea early on (Purgatory). So they said "Nope, that's not it!!!" and tried to change everything or better yet leave no explanation at all.
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There are so many differing opinions on the meaning of the story, and we all knew it would be that way. I haven't made up my mind how I feel about the show - whether it was great or not. However, one thing the show did accomplish - it got people talking. TV networks would give their soul to have a show like Lost that has a solid following, fan sites, discussions, and more. It's a self fed monster. The viewership helps with bringing others in and making the show a success by talking about it. This is the recipe for a successful show.


After the show I went to a couple LOST community boards and found some people asking the same questions.
Here are some of those threads. Might answer some of your questions.

Sideways jumps - not sure about this
Knife puncture in Jacks lower stomach - very interesting reason
Jack's dad wearing the white boat shoes - this is a neat idea
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I concur.

I watched the first episode on Hulu at one point to see what LOST was all about it. Decided it wasn't worth it to devote time to catching up on all of it. After reading this thread, I am very glad I didn't go through with trying to watch every season.
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Well considering everything you just wrote I think we just have 100% opposite desires in life and stories. And that's fine. The drama was fine, but if i watch a murder mystery.. i want to find out who did it in the end especially after the writer taunts me with the subject.

This show has been like watching a 2 hour movie where 20 people are just pointing up into the sky saying "OH MY GOD, OH MY GOD", "I CAN'T BELIEVE IT", "IT'S SO AMAZING", "WHAT IS THAT, WHAT IS THAT". And then the movie ends w/out ever showing what they were all looking at, or even having them talk about what they're looking at. Hmm, not satisfying to me.

It's called a TEASE.

Ataraxy has it right, they only worked with the character's and emotions in the finale and left tons of island's largest mysteries completely unexplained.

What do I want explained? Pretty much at least a few of the biggest mysteries about the island.. for fucks sake. If i need to list them then you've never watched the show.

What we got here is the longest tease known to man.
And why was the Island more like Purgatory than Purgatory was... with it's crazy mysteries and occurrences.
I want to be done with even pondering this jerk-off.
But my guess is the writers got called out on the original Island idea early on (Purgatory). So they said "Nope, that's not it!!!" and tried to change everything or better yet leave no explanation at all.
Have you checked out those two sites I linked to? In the end this is a pencil and paper show, and if you went back and watched it all again more of it would make sense. If you also read the lostpedia for instance alot more of it would make sense. Whether or not you want to do all of that, is up to you. But I think for those that dig deep enough answers can be found to many of the questions.
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You don't get it either and you're still satisfied...that's the point. It's only simpletons like you that have been obsessed with the show that are happy with this ending. Anybody with half a brain looks at this and thinks it's just stupid...they're all fucking dead in the end. That's almost as bad as "It was all just a dream..."

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They don't answer ANYTHING. All they do is create the side flashes in the beginning of this season, and then explain that that's all not even real because they're dead. They explain NOTHING they built up over the 5 prior years other than the story of Jacob...which ended up being stupid because it was never fully explained.


The final season was supposed to "reveal all", and it revealed nothing.

The final episode was a 2 and a half hour reunion episode with the point being they're all dead anyway.

The writers admit to writing LOST on the go, and the actors had no idea what was going on and still have no idea what went on.

They explain how NOBODY dies except for Jack.


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