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Old 08-17-2010, 12:17 PM   #301 (permalink)
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What the fuck?

They talk about slaughtering white babies, what the fuck would you call them? A peace group? They are fucking racists through and through.
Any group whos sole purpose is to promote the well-being of that particular race is a racist group.

Can I have a group dedicated to the well-being of whites? No? Well why not? Because it's fucking racist and the only ones in this country who AREN'T allowed to be racist are whites.

Here is the leader of your precious peace group AKA The New Black Panther Party:

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No bro, not racist at all. I just don't understand the greys. Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.

I can tell you this, you will NEVER EVER win an argument like that with a black person, well at least 98% of the time. The exceptions are people like Bill Cosby and Clarence Thomas. But I'm sure Soupy will be here soon to denounce them as "Uncle Toms".
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Holy fucking flying batman, another liberal comparing Christianity to Islam! Wow didn't see that one coming, NOT!

And for the idiot above that said there is no such thing as "you liberals" that I have been describing, those being the ones like this prick who bring up other religions and point the finger instead of trying to solve the problem at hand.

Don't believe me? Check out digg's top story today:

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I'm sure you can find just as many comments like the ones in there bashing Christians over on Reddit as well.

I can't believe you actually had the balls to say "you liberals" don't exist. Literally a day doesn't go by when I don't hear a liberal bitch and whine about the Christians and how bad of people they are. "You liberals" definitely exist, again I can't believe you have to balls to even try and say they don't. Again, check out digg, perfect example of what I deal with every day, typical young liberals spouting off about how evil Christians are and how oppressive they are. Again, has nothing to do with the problem at hand, but fuck let's not give up ANY chance we have to bitch about the Christians will we?! Maybe not "all of you liberals" act like that, but there is a definite fucking portion that does, and to deny that is ludicrous and only discredits your position.

Oh yea, I went to reddit today for the first time in weeks and the entire site is full of sob stories about how evil America is because of the mosque controversy. It's like all the sudden the libtards now care about religion and are defending it. Fucking unreal.
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@ adigitalorange: I'm not criticizing whatever religion because I believe everyone has the freedom and liberty to believe whatever...no matter how insane I think it is. I don't think Islam is better/worse than Christianity.

The thing is, a lot of people are comparing the most extreme version of Islam (terrorism) with moderate Christianity. OF COURSE Islam will look evil that way! But judging from the FACT that hundreds of thousands of Muslims already live in the US without harming anyone clearly shows that THEY'RE NOT ALL EXTREMISTS!! In fact, those people are the MAJORITY in the US, and you guys creating all those fear around Islam/Muslims are achieving only one thing: Making life harder for the normal moderate believers who don't do any harm to you or anyone else.

Does that sound fair to you? Seriously, stop the religious paranoia fear train and hop onto the "I can think rationally" train please.
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Liberals like you are the ones who are the most dangerous to our country and our future. I talked about this in another thread but let me recap here. Basically what you are doing is diverting our attention from the discussion at hand, which right now is this mosque. I have to give you credit because your technique is very effective, and garners lots of attention.

The reason why this works is pretty simple, because instead of you arguing about the problem at hand (the Mosque), you bring up Christianity. Now this will fly with 90% of Americans because they are gullible, but the smart ones see you as an idiot. The smart and rational thing to do is argue against the topic at hand, which again is the mosque. You have chosen to bring Christianity for no reason other than your own distaste for it. This could be because you were raped as a child by a priest, I don't know and honestly I don't give a fuck why you have something against Christians, it really doesn't matter. If you ever took any classes on proper discourse and/or debate or have ever read any books on it, you will know what you are doing is really a stupid thing to do. You never see any presidents when in a debate say "ohhh wellll loookkk @@@@ whatttt theyyyy aree doinggnsdsss". You know why? Because it is dumb. It prevents any sort of progress on what we are trying to solve right now. Right now there is a discussion about the mosque and if it is a problem or not. Nobody is talking about priests raping little boys. Yes that is a problem in its own right, but that is neither here nor there. Now we are going to end up arguing which religion is worse and pointing out there flaws, which does NOTHING to stop the problem at hand which again is the mosque. Not only does it prevent any action from being taken, it prevents ideas from being put forth cause idiots like you are so concerned with bringing down someone else (Christianity here) for whatever reason.

And if you really want to get into the argument about Christianity versus Muslims with something that is DIRECTLY related to the issue at hand, look at this:

POPE ORDERS NUNS OUT OF AUSCHWITZ - NYTimes.com

That is almost the EXACT same position the Muslims are in now. The pope could have said yeah we have our right to build it here, but the fact is he didn't, he respected the Jews (whether their feelings were right or wrong) and knew it would be good for future relations and made the smart PR move, somethign the Muslims have shown they could give two fucks about.

Again, I am on the side the Muslims should just respect peoples feelings and get the good PR while they are at it by simply moving it somewhere that is farther than a few hundred feet from ground zero. Whether these people are justified in their prejudices or not, there is no sense in pissing millions of people off. You as a liberal probably cannot understand that though. I guess to us conservatives its just logical so it naturally makes sense.

Again I pity people like you. I will respect your thoughts and opinions until you get into a little pissy fit like a 2 year old fucking girl pointing the finger at other religions when it has NOTHING, yes I repeat FUCKING NOTHING to do with the problem at hand, which is what we are going to do about these Mosques. Please pick up a book on how to put forth a logical debate without whining. Thank yaaaaaaaaaaas
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Old 08-17-2010, 12:36 PM   #306 (permalink)
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@ adigitalorange: I'm not criticizing whatever religion because I believe everyone has the freedom and liberty to believe whatever...no matter how insane I think it is. I don't think Islam is better/worse than Christianity.

The thing is, a lot of people are comparing the most extreme version of Islam (terrorism) with moderate Christianity. OF COURSE Islam will look evil that way! But judging from the FACT that hundreds of thousands of Muslims already live in the US without harming anyone clearly shows that THEY'RE NOT ALL EXTREMISTS!! In fact, those people are the MAJORITY in the US, and you guys creating all those fear around Islam/Muslims are achieving only one thing: Making life harder for the normal moderate believers who don't do any harm to you or anyone else.

Does that sound fair to you? Seriously, stop the religious paranoia fear train and hop onto the "I can think rationally" train please.
When did I say I am paranoid? What the hell are you talking about? All I was saying is you guys are so adamant on comparing the two (which if you read my earlier posts I said is actually retarded and doesn't help us solve the problem at hand). I felt the need to step in and say if you really want to compare the two, its quite obvious which one is more dangerous. But again, that is neither here nor there.

I absolutely believe in the rights of Muslims to worship wherever they want, including on ground zero if they wanted. I am a firm believer in the constitution and am not some hypocrite that changes my opinion on the matter. They have every right to build it wherever they want, and I would defend that to the death that they do. It still doesn't change the fact that I think it is horribly insensitive that they are doing so despite the millions that have a problem with it (again whether it is rational or not that is here nor there, the fact is it has millions outraged).

I actually have a close Muslim friend, in no way am I bashing their religion. He is pretty logical and will admit the extreme versions of his religion are much worse than the extreme versions of Christianity being practice on a numbers scale. But again you liberals that is hard to admit, you guys are so focused on bashing Christianity for whatever reason you fail to see any logic in anything. How about like killing over 3k people > then molestation for starters?

But I'm sure you'll be back to bring up some bullshit, can't convince the idiots though. I guess for people like my friend and I we just see common sense and that there is a problem with the extremists, you're so hung up on "bringing up all the dirt" about the Christians you can find you're blinded but the reality. Sad really.
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What the fuck?

They talk about slaughtering white babies, what the fuck would you call them? A peace group? They are fucking racists through and through.
Any group whos sole purpose is to promote the well-being of that particular race is a racist group.

Can I have a group dedicated to the well-being of whites? No? Well why not? Because it's fucking racist and the only ones in this country who AREN'T allowed to be racist are whites.

Here is the leader of your precious peace group AKA The New Black Panther Party:

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No bro, not racist at all. I just don't understand the greys. Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.
Like I said, I don't know about the "new" panthers...
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Where did I ever say extremism wasn't horrible? Of course it is...but those extremists are the minority. If they weren't, I'd be dead by now given how often I had to travel all over the Middle East for work. Can I ask you, have you ever been in the ME?

Also, why is me defending the religious liberties/freedoms of Muslims suddenly the same as attacking Christianity? All I did was to point out that there's bad apples in every religious group. In any case, those extremist idiots are the minority and we shouldn't forget that.
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Where did I ever say extremism wasn't horrible? Of course it is...but those extremists are the minority. If they weren't, I'd be dead by now given how often I had to travel all over the Middle East for work. Can I ask you, have you ever been in the ME?

Also, why is me defending the religious liberties/freedoms of Muslims suddenly the same as attacking Christianity? All I did was to point out that there's bad apples in every religious group. In any case, those extremist idiots are the minority and we shouldn't forget that.
Whoa I didn't say defending the religious liberties/freedoms of Muslims is bad at all. I am all for defending them, they deserve the same rights as anyone else. However, when you get into defending their rights by pointing out the wrongs of other religions, you are no longer defending them, you are just whining. You can defend the rights of Muslims perfectly fine but just stating what we as Americans are entitled to, without pointing the finger. Same goes with Christianity, I can defend their rights without talking about how bad the Muslims are. The thing that pisses me off is there is such a double standard like ly2 mentioned, head over to Digg. They are so quick to defend anything anti-Christian, but when it comes to Christianity they are so quick to point the finger. If you can't see that, or at least see there is a definite population within the liberal sect in this country that does that, well you my friend I feel bad for because you can't be honest with yourself.

And yes I have been to the Holy Land once 2.5 years ago, I don't really know why that matters though. I understand 99% of Islamic people have great intentions. I know that and I truly believe it, I have never met an extremist. The fact still remains the same though, of extremists in all religions they seem to be doing the most damage. And again, if you can't admit that I can't argue with you because you can't be honest.
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So they have the most violent extremists...how does that influence the decision to build the mosque or not?? Why should the moderate majority of Muslims decide not to build a mosque just because of a few bad apples?

Pointing out the double standard in people judging this isn't bad. The same people saying it's "insensitive" to build the mosque are perfectly fine with "insert their religion" churches staying open even after children have been molested there. Of course those churches should stay open, the actions of a few horrible priests shouldn't give anyone the right to "cur the liberties" of the other good priests. The same goes for this mosque. Of course what happened on 9/11 is bad, but they're not building that mosque for extremists!

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Jesus Fucking Christ cant we all just get along..

People are like Ants, you mix the different types together and they kill each other off... no difference.

Dont worry the Mosque will not be there long, there is some crazy christian militia group building a special treat for them. And when this happens the shit will get real crazy.
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Nah, sorry buddy. Thank God half this country realizes there is people like you out there, which is why Conservatives are up in the polls and are expected to take back the house this November, because people realize the stupidity of "you liberals". Trust me they exist and they are out there, I see them everyday.

To see there is just people like me versus the world is fucking moronic, there is millions and millions of people in this country who would agree with everything I just said (hence the people who didn't vote for Obama), but hey I guess 40/45% of the population of a country with 310 million people doesn't matter, cause those are just people like me right?
Nearly half of Americans don't vote at all. For many of those that do, it is a lesser of two evils choice or picking who seems like the nicest guy. The majority of the public is not very politically informed and even among those that are, many of them aren't highly in favor or opposed to a specific party.

The political tides historically go back and forth, especially based on the economy. The average voter might not have heard of cap and trade or whether or not Obama raised the military budget, but they will know about their cousin Bobby getting laid off from his job.

One poll I saw had 60% supporting "vote them all out" for congress. The majority of congress is democrat, so republicans would of course benefit most from this.

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More people still identify as democrats. You'll notice that compared to two years ago both the amount of democrats and republicans has gone down, while the amount of independents has gone up quite a bit.
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