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joe · 03-28-2007, 03:15 AM

So, when are we getting the FRID implants?

Jon · 03-28-2007, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by joe

So, when are we getting the FRID implants?

If they ever do have this.. they should be implanting non-US citizens before the citizens. This way they can keep tabs and make sure Asam Al-Kumar is working in his cab and not in some flight school learning how to fly a 747.

DruSam · 03-28-2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Deliguy

Nothing would kill america faster than that fair tax being passed.
First of all always be skeptical of a law that says "fair" fair is subjective. Second of all you got to consider the economic impact it would have on a national level. Even though it seems all fair it has very bad consequences.

The upper class on an average have different spending habits than the lower class. The lower class's expenses tend to match their income. The upper class tends to reinvest a portion of their income to create more income, which would be untaxable. So the upper class' income would grow faster than if there were still an income tax. That would have to come out of somewhere, the lower class. It would end up breaking down like this in the end:
American Corporations/businesses = paying virtually no taxes since they reinvest most of their money.

Upper class = paying much less in taxes than they normally would because the 23% would adjust to be less than what they are currently paying. Their spending habits would naturally increase their income faster than they would get taxed on it.

Middle class = would come out about even.

Lower class = would be paying about double their current average because their spending habits would equal their income. So the more they make the more they spend in a taxable manner therefore get taxed, except at a rate that is approx. double of what they are currently being taxed. Since their income growth is on avg. stagnate their tax would be stagnate. So they would be affected negatively.

So if your following me so far, this would create a catastrophically huge separation of classes. Which history has proven to create major social disorder. When social disorder happens the first and foremost affected are the corporations and businesses. Which would cause major losses. In an attempt to salvage earnings the corporations would hold their earnings and/or invest it in foreign means. When this happens the loss of circulation momentum would cause an economic dust bowl. Once America has recovered from that, the same thing would happen that happened with the Great Depression. The rich would emerge richer and the poor would emerge poorer (we're still not fully recovered from that last blow).

In an economic sense, the middle class are the best investment. Them having money is good for both the economy growth and local business growth. Never support a tax that helps the upper class and corporations, even if you are rich its a very bad idea.

On the upside to this though, we'd have no irs

Eli, effective tax rates are implemented with fairtax. People with lower incomes will have high tax offsets, therefore their tax rates will be lower.

Distribution of the FairTax burden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also the payroll tax we have right now is a truly regressive tax compared to FairTax. It has no standard deductions or personal exemptions. And more than 75% of American pay more in payroll taxes than they do in income taxes. With fairtax, all regressive taxes are eliminated and the lower income brackets are shielded with effective tax rates.

Oh and I PM'd you about something Deli.

wdmny · 03-28-2007, 03:06 PM

The concern I have with Fairtax or any VAT/sales tax is that it discourages spending. Spending money is what fuels the economy.

DruSam · 03-28-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmny

The concern I have with Fairtax or any VAT/sales tax is that it discourages spending. Spending money is what fuels the economy.

I doubt it would have a negative effect on spending because people would have more money available since they are not being taxed elsewhere. Besides I think we Americans are much more impulsive in our spending regardless.

Xrproto · 03-29-2007, 11:21 AM

I didn't read through this all but I've known about the income tax thing for some time now.

Income tax is a "voluntary" tax and the goverment can't demand a "mandatory" income tax but given a great legal system and the power given to the IRS by being able to bypass "due process" allowing them to seize/hold/lean everything in your possession. Without going to court.

And the tax form everyone fills out...is an attachment required by immagrants, not required by citizens but you are require by employers to fill one out to get hire...something like that. It's been awhile since I studied it all.

darkpedro · 03-29-2007, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Karnul

Absolutely nothing. We starve the government back into submission. Here a few reasons why this is the right course of action:

1. The FedGov freely admits to pissing away 85 cents on every dollar they collect. Meaning - only 15 cents makes it's way out of bureauacracy and into programs.

2. The 85 cents pissed away thing was BEFORE we found out the Pentagon has missplaced 2 TRILLION dollars.

3. The 85 cents is used to feed beaucrats. Each one of these blood suckers could be in the free market actually doing some good instead of writing regulations that cost jobs, time, and money.

4. The FedGov does actual harm with the money they spend. Propping up totalitarian dictatorships around the world. Incarcerating people for victimless crimes. Bribing the states into a federal system (which deprives us of choice.) Infringing on privacy. Waging wars.

5. Government is a dangerous force. History has shown that governments tend to evolve into monsters of suppression. Allowing our gov't to spend 2.3 trillion dollars a year will end up biting us all in the ass. The signs are already here that we face a fascist future --- Fascist = a system of government where the needs of the state superceed those of the individual.

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We could turn the USA back into a growth machine and beacon of freedom in the world by starving gov't back into it's constitutional bounds.

Bingo.

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Originally Posted by Ron Paul

"We forget that those powers not explicitly granted to Congress by the Constitution are inherently denied to Congress."

Maybe it's because they never taught this in our government sponsored goverment classes.

The fact is, we live in a place that the government can do whatever they want to us because they have the guns. They not only have the guns, but they have the monopoly of force. They "protect" our freedom by stripping our freedom, and we are powerless to do anything about it.

aeiouy · 03-29-2007, 01:18 PM

This is very much nonsensical Republic of Texas type stuff.

Don't believe this sheet for one minute. Go ahead and don't pay your taxes if you actually think there is no authority to enforce it. I suggest anyone who does will find out differently, eventually.

It is dumb to think we don't need tax money. I am not a fan of the wastefulness of our government, but everything has a trade-off, and we exchange some of this for the best living in the world. I will take that every day of the week.

Can things be improved and changed? Yeah but there is a system for doing it. Getting outraged because some nutjob tells you there is no reason to pay taxes, well all that is going to do is ruin your own life.

Your not throwing Tea into Boston Harbor fighting the Queen of England. You would simply be another idiot who thought they could not pay their taxes who winds up with a massive financial liability and some nice jail time.

Regardless, most people pay taxes not just because they have to, but because they know we all need to do it. So we might gripe and groan every year, but such anti-establishment behavior is going to garner almost zero public sympathy as everyone else tells you to sit down and shut up.

I live in a State where people claim the US does not own Texas. They can even make a compelling argument... Until you realize they are insane.

If you don't want to pay taxes, I suggest you move to a country that does not have any taxation.

aeiouy · 03-29-2007, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DruSam

This whole issue is not going to fix itself. As someone mentioned earlier the government will not regulate itself. It will just get bigger and bigger until the people who gave it it's power stops being complacent.

The first step is informing people on the subject.

Dru, The entire over-spending by our government has been a well-known and well-debated issue since I have been aware enough to notice. It is not some kind of secret that the US federal government wastes money. It is a topic of constant conversation. We don't need an extremist video to open our eyes. You can't really think everyone is in the dark on this. Most people just accept it as part of the trade off and work to change things as the are...

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What's worse is that too many American think we can't do anything. That's the biggest lie right now, but it will be true if we continue to be complacent. The government should be afraid of it's people, not the other way around.

Fortunately our form of government is amazingly resilliant and is full of ways to keep things in check. Ultimately push comes to shove, and the people can enact change. Yet it takes something that people necessarily care about.

Like I said, not really some big revelation that the US government is wasting money, or trying to erode our personal rights. The problem is people have to give superhuman traits to people who manage our government to make any of this a real issue. They are still just human beings like the rest of us. They don't have any superpowers.

I just think people acting outraged or like any of this is the least bit new is a bit ignorant. It is what it is, and what it has been for a very long time now.

aeiouy · 03-29-2007, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DruSam

In my opinion the alternative should be a national sales tax. Some say a 23% sales tax would allow us to cut all other taxes and still allow us to partake in the programs currently in use. Just imagine what it would be if we cut all the bloated programs...

Sales tax is the second most regressive tax you can have. I suspect the powers that be would love it, as it would keep the poor people singificantly poorer, and under their thumb.

Might as well just have a huge national lottery if that is what you want to do, and use that to fund everything.

pfgannon · 03-29-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aeiouy

Sales tax is the second most regressive tax you can have. I suspect the powers that be would love it, as it would keep the poor people singificantly poorer, and under their thumb.

Might as well just have a huge national lottery if that is what you want to do, and use that to fund everything.

I'm guessing you didnt read the wikipedia link one FairTax Dru posted?

Also Dru mentioned the REAL ID Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that a lot of people haven't heard of, including myself til now

DruSam · 03-29-2007, 02:24 PM

aeiouy, just because something has been happening for a long time means we shouldn't do anything about it? I've only been in the world for 19 years, but this is my country, and I am the one who has to live in it for the coming years. Why should my generation have to do things like they always were just because our fathers, grandfathers, and great-grandfathers decided they would let things happen to them?

Why do you think everyone outraged is so crazy? I don't think anyone is dumb enough to just stop paying their federal income tax, because we know exactly what happens, we get fined and/or go to jail. I'm definitely not stupid enough to try it.

But where you are wrong is that we can't do anything about it. Like you said if people want to promote change, we can do it through our political process. But it will take a lot open minds, and perhaps a little bit of pissed off people.

You tell me why we should settle for less than the best of what this country can be?

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Originally Posted by aeiouy

Sales tax is the second most regressive tax you can have. I suspect the powers that be would love it, as it would keep the poor people singificantly poorer, and under their thumb.

Might as well just have a huge national lottery if that is what you want to do, and use that to fund everything.

You didn't read what I posted earlier, sales tax doesn't have to be regressive, and the way fairtax is set up, it won't:
No More Income Taxes in the US?!

And if the powers that be would love a national sales tax so much, how come they aren't doing it? How come they insisted on creating their bloated tax system? Why did they create the IRS instead to control everything? Why does the national sales tax idea have trouble catching ground with the powers that be?

Mill · 03-30-2007, 02:38 AM

Yea I agree that the taxes are or were infact unconstitutional, just start a thread on Loopholes

Phre0nBurn · 03-30-2007, 12:39 PM

Fuck... I've seen probably 3-4 other videos just like that one...

They all piss me off...

Why are there still hordes of people that don't seem to understand that this is going on?

I'm gonna go bury gold and guns in the yard... I'll be back later

jened · 04-04-2007, 10:03 AM

just saw this on drudge this morning:
A man who contended that he was not required to pay income tax, and whose case led to an indictment against actor Wesley Snipes, was sentenced Tuesday to 27 months in prison.
Tax protester gets more than 2 years - Yahoo! News

DruSam · 04-04-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jened

just saw this on drudge this morning:
A man who contended that he was not required to pay income tax, and whose case led to an indictment against actor Wesley Snipes, was sentenced Tuesday to 27 months in prison.
Tax protester gets more than 2 years - Yahoo! News

Like I said before, you'd have to be a dumbass to try and protest this by not paying your taxes. Any tax reform done will have to be made by massive political support from millions of Americans and their representatives. Like in the video, the IRS is the one with the guns and handcuffs, not the taxpayers.

Karnul · 04-06-2007, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DruSam

Like I said before, you'd have to be a dumbass to try and protest this by not paying your taxes. Any tax reform done will have to be made by massive political support from millions of Americans and their representatives. Like in the video, the IRS is the one with the guns and handcuffs, not the taxpayers.

DruSam, I don't think people that stop paying taxes are dumbasses. In fact, I see them as brave freedom-fighters. It's these type of people that secured our country's independence. I wish I was brave enough to stand up to the biggest bully this planet has ever seen - the USA FEDGOV.

Here's a website dedicated to fighting these pricks:

We The People Foundation & We The People Congress

About 1500 of these guys took out a NY Times full page ad declaring that they were gonna stop paying taxes. To date, the IRS has only persecuted 3 or 4 of them. If 1500 people are willing to publicly flip-off the IRS, imagine how many do it privately. My guess is millions. If it ever gets to 5% I think we will see a sea-change in gov't behavior.

Right now the IRS seems to have the strategy of going after the highest profile cases. This way they can scare the rest of us into submission. Behind the scenes I suspect there are IRS insiders that see it as a losing battle and they are employing stop-gap hail mary's. I bet these bloodsucking traitors to the constitution hate the internets =)

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All you young guys keep saying it's been this way a long time. But really it hasn't. Only the last 40 years have seen this massive growth in taxation. At the beginning of that period people were fine with paying more and more taxes because they feared for their lives. This was the Cold War. Nuclear annihilation was a very real possibility. When the Cold War ended, our government went out and found new enemies (reminds me of 1984 - the book, not the year!). These new enemies DRUG DEALERS and TERRORISTS became the rallying cry for more powers and taxes. Earlier generations would not have stood for this trickery... but the baby boomers grew up with huge government and didn't know better. Plus gov't was buying off the old folks with Medicare and SS. This is a SCAM of magnificent proportions. We are the fucking suckers.

mattinator · 04-08-2007, 10:28 PM

(Disclaimer: I was raised in a pro-Liberal home.) I think you guys focusing on the tax issue are missing the point. There is an elite group of people running the world right now and they don't give a shit about regular people like you or me. Read about the IMF and World bank and the WTO if you think I'm some sort of extreme conspiracy theorist. I've been reading about this all weekend and been doing research. I had read about this stuff when I was in high school and got fired up about and then just kind of gradually stopped caring. So I'm glad this was posted to rejuvenate me into hopefully coming to action. I did a lot of research about an alternative we could come up with but it turns out someone already did! It is a very liberal spin on globalization and I would greatly appreciate input from any conservative/Republican/rights on the matter.

Andrew · 04-08-2007, 10:56 PM

I already said this in the beginning, don't even bother wasting your time with this shit. Its a lose-lose situation.

The government has to get their revenue from somewhere. They are already spending more than they bring in from taxes. All eliminating or minimizing taxes means is that the US government has to finance itself through debt and monetary inflation -- both are far, far worse than taxes (and both are already happening in a very big way.) Taxes have loopholes and openings for flexibility. Debt and inflation drag the entire economy down.

nmwando · 04-08-2007, 11:24 PM

jesus i would guess aojon, you paid a shit load of income tax when you sold your company, something like half of what you sold it for.
This is the kind of education that is important for this generation of Americans. I once heard an interview with a guy who said hippies were just guys who didnt want to conform to things like the vietnam war, they were not going to give in to that crap. Its sad what happens this days, everyone wants to live in a gated community, community co - ops in newyork where according to what i read in the NY times whether or not you have money thats not good enough to buy an apartment(i might be wrong).
Whats positive to see is the amazing power of the internet, if you watch the rise of things like myspace, facebook fark, wickedfire this generation is slowly rising and not giving in to that stone age crap.
Its the same shit with the info deliguy had here about your rights when you get stopped by some cop and what to and what to never do. Fucking gold, i underestimated forums but such info especially for a guy like me driving around for more than 100 hrs a week commercially, it gives me the edge so that if i ever find myself in a bind i know what to do.
I remember 2 years ago sitting in a community college wondering why in the fuck i had to study calculus for 2 years, what does that help me with jack shit. This is the education that you really need in life, about your rights, the fact that you have to do your homework and having a magnetic personality and pretending you know what you are doing is not enough. You have to deliver fucking results, not having a loud mouth and thanks to people like aojon who take time to create communities like wf. Seriously i have completely changed my whole idea of what im is and that creating mental blocks of really how much you can do and how much you can make would just be shooting your toe with a big fucking shotgun.
nuff said.

Ibart · 04-08-2007, 11:24 PM

You anti tax nuts have to understand that without taxes the price of goods wwould skyrocket to compensate for it. A candy bar would cost $1.5 instead of 80 cents. There is no free lunch.

Karnul · 04-13-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibart

You anti tax nuts have to understand that without taxes the price of goods wwould skyrocket to compensate for it. A candy bar would cost $1.5 instead of 80 cents. There is no free lunch.

I hope he was banned for his piss poor theory of economics =)

Taxes drain society. Money is best spent by those that earn it, not pompous, busy-body bureaucrats --- who siphon most of it off before buying popular support with the rest.

Without taxes, millions more would have the money to start businesses or invest with those that start businesses. We'd have more choice in candy bars and the price would go down -- not up. Competition raises quality and lowers price.

excfire · 04-18-2007, 07:32 AM

i read the first post only and was convinced to watch the video. i only started the beginning and i'm getting goosebumps.

kaveman · 04-18-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibart

You anti tax nuts have to understand that without taxes the price of goods wwould skyrocket to compensate for it. A candy bar would cost $1.5 instead of 80 cents. There is no free lunch.

hahahahahahahahahahahha the government gives tax breaks to stimulate the economy, are you saying thats cause prices will rise??

OuchItBurns · 04-18-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibart

You anti tax nuts have to understand that without taxes the price of goods wwould skyrocket to compensate for it. A candy bar would cost $1.5 instead of 80 cents. There is no free lunch.

I've got no prob paying state/local taxes to support infrastructure.

100% of your federal income taxes go to pay off the interest to the federal reserve. That's where it all goes and it is an unpayable debt designed to enslave the population.

Tax cuts have always spurred economic growth.

Quite simply, the government prints the money out of thin air so they don't need your taxes. Taxes only exist to keep people enslaved and in debt to the government and also as a tool of control.

Almost every person here has violated the IRS tax code. It is so contradictory that it is impossible not to. The IRS can be used to seize your property or bring charges to put you in prison should you be doing something the government does not like. Taxation is control, nothing more.

On average, we pay more for taxes than we do for food, housing and clothing COMBINED.

We pay more taxes than a medieval serf did.

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wdmny Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 173 iTrader: 1 / 100%	The concern I have with Fairtax or any VAT/sales tax is that it discourages spending. Spending money is what fuels the economy. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ WP CSV Import \| Yahoo Answers Scraper WP Plugin \| WP Quiz Lander Plugin

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Xrproto Waste of e-space Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,882 iTrader: 4 / 100%	I didn't read through this all but I've known about the income tax thing for some time now. Income tax is a "voluntary" tax and the goverment can't demand a "mandatory" income tax but given a great legal system and the power given to the IRS by being able to bypass "due process" allowing them to seize/hold/lean everything in your possession. Without going to court. And the tax form everyone fills out...is an attachment required by immagrants, not required by citizens but you are require by employers to fill one out to get hire...something like that. It's been awhile since I studied it all. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ I can assure you I am as insane as the next man.

03-29-2007, 01:18 PM	#58 (permalink)
aeiouy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 926 iTrader: 0 / 0%	This is very much nonsensical Republic of Texas type stuff. Don't believe this sheet for one minute. Go ahead and don't pay your taxes if you actually think there is no authority to enforce it. I suggest anyone who does will find out differently, eventually. It is dumb to think we don't need tax money. I am not a fan of the wastefulness of our government, but everything has a trade-off, and we exchange some of this for the best living in the world. I will take that every day of the week. Can things be improved and changed? Yeah but there is a system for doing it. Getting outraged because some nutjob tells you there is no reason to pay taxes, well all that is going to do is ruin your own life. Your not throwing Tea into Boston Harbor fighting the Queen of England. You would simply be another idiot who thought they could not pay their taxes who winds up with a massive financial liability and some nice jail time. Regardless, most people pay taxes not just because they have to, but because they know we all need to do it. So we might gripe and groan every year, but such anti-establishment behavior is going to garner almost zero public sympathy as everyone else tells you to sit down and shut up. I live in a State where people claim the US does not own Texas. They can even make a compelling argument... Until you realize they are insane. If you don't want to pay taxes, I suggest you move to a country that does not have any taxation. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Wickedfire is spanish for F'ed Up Make Wickedfire a better place. Click Here Hakuna Matata

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Mill Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 469 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Yea I agree that the taxes are or were infact unconstitutional, just start a thread on Loopholes Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ I will take a review copy of this and that and this.. " WTF EVER "

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jened Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: upstate NY Posts: 983 iTrader: 0 / 0%	just saw this on drudge this morning: A man who contended that he was not required to pay income tax, and whose case led to an indictment against actor Wesley Snipes, was sentenced Tuesday to 27 months in prison. Tax protester gets more than 2 years - Yahoo! News Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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mattinator Ad Astra Per Alia Porci Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 39 iTrader: 0 / 0%	(Disclaimer: I was raised in a pro-Liberal home.) I think you guys focusing on the tax issue are missing the point. There is an elite group of people running the world right now and they don't give a shit about regular people like you or me. Read about the IMF and World bank and the WTO if you think I'm some sort of extreme conspiracy theorist. I've been reading about this all weekend and been doing research. I had read about this stuff when I was in high school and got fired up about and then just kind of gradually stopped caring. So I'm glad this was posted to rejuvenate me into hopefully coming to action. I did a lot of research about an alternative we could come up with but it turns out someone already did! It is a very liberal spin on globalization and I would greatly appreciate input from any conservative/Republican/rights on the matter. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

04-08-2007, 10:56 PM	#69 (permalink)
Andrew Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,046 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I already said this in the beginning, don't even bother wasting your time with this shit. Its a lose-lose situation. The government has to get their revenue from somewhere. They are already spending more than they bring in from taxes. All eliminating or minimizing taxes means is that the US government has to finance itself through debt and monetary inflation -- both are far, far worse than taxes (and both are already happening in a very big way.) Taxes have loopholes and openings for flexibility. Debt and inflation drag the entire economy down. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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nmwando Credworthy Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: raleigh Posts: 760 iTrader: 2 / 100%	jesus i would guess aojon, you paid a shit load of income tax when you sold your company, something like half of what you sold it for. This is the kind of education that is important for this generation of Americans. I once heard an interview with a guy who said hippies were just guys who didnt want to conform to things like the vietnam war, they were not going to give in to that crap. Its sad what happens this days, everyone wants to live in a gated community, community co - ops in newyork where according to what i read in the NY times whether or not you have money thats not good enough to buy an apartment(i might be wrong). Whats positive to see is the amazing power of the internet, if you watch the rise of things like myspace, facebook fark, wickedfire this generation is slowly rising and not giving in to that stone age crap. Its the same shit with the info deliguy had here about your rights when you get stopped by some cop and what to and what to never do. Fucking gold, i underestimated forums but such info especially for a guy like me driving around for more than 100 hrs a week commercially, it gives me the edge so that if i ever find myself in a bind i know what to do. I remember 2 years ago sitting in a community college wondering why in the fuck i had to study calculus for 2 years, what does that help me with jack shit. This is the education that you really need in life, about your rights, the fact that you have to do your homework and having a magnetic personality and pretending you know what you are doing is not enough. You have to deliver fucking results, not having a loud mouth and thanks to people like aojon who take time to create communities like wf. Seriously i have completely changed my whole idea of what im is and that creating mental blocks of really how much you can do and how much you can make would just be shooting your toe with a big fucking shotgun. nuff said. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Front page ipad 2 covers - check out the auction. https://flippa.com/2668883-first-page-for-ipad-2-covers-ecom-store-500-without-trying-organic-sales

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