contest: Are you white or black hat? - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

barman · 03-27-2007, 03:01 PM

So a few months ago I had a balance over at this embroidery shop. I got a bunch of shit along with these SEO hats. Lame, I know, but now I don't know what to do with them. One version is a black hat, and one is a white hat, and they will get you some poon when some hot chick at the bar goes, "So, what's an SEO?"

I figured why not give some away. Here are the contest rules. Post a black hat or white hat tip that will help people out here. And it can't be some free tip that's plastered all over the web. It has to be a nice little known nugget of information. I will give one away, your choice. The best tip between posts 1-20 will win one, and the best post between 21-40 will win one. Hopefully there's a decent tip between all the smart ass remarks that will be post.

This contest is not sponsored at all by WF and its founder or members. I'm doing it on my own free will. The white hat is actually white, and not ass yellow like the picture makes it out to be.

Firelead · 03-27-2007, 04:10 PM

White Hat: When building backlinks, occasionally misspell your anchor text. The search engine's view it as "natural".

cdc · 03-27-2007, 04:22 PM

Blackhat Tip: Read WageRank

Whitehat Tip: Use DIRZAP: The Free Directory Submission Tool

Ok, ok. I'll stop the self promotion.

How about this one: don't listen to people who tell you that getting links from 'bad neighborhoods' can negatively effect your rankings. If they could, I would just get links to my competitors' sites from every bad neighborhood I can find.

It boils down to: You can't be penalized for off-page SEO.

GET AS MANY LINKS AS YOU CAN!!

Aequitas · 03-27-2007, 04:43 PM

I'm sure mine falls under the category of easy to find online but I'm no SEO Expert and I'll give it a shot.

Whitehat: Backlinks from off topic sites WONT bring down your search engine rankings but they WONT raise them either, Linking to non-relevant sites, including illegal sites such as Warez related sites WILL bring down your search engine rankings.

Google knows that you cannot control your in-bound links, so they won't give you a penalty for doing so but they know you can control your out-bound links and can give you a penalty for doing so.

Jon · 03-27-2007, 04:53 PM

I'm a blackhat and always will be at heart, but I've been more gray publicly.

indicas · 03-27-2007, 04:54 PM

neither - we are what you call green hat! so natural.

Juicify · 03-27-2007, 04:58 PM

BLACKHAT AHEAD

Spam the shit out of OpenSourceCMS - CMS Ratings
The place where you can test the control panel of alot of CMSs
How to do it:
Get Live HTTP headers for firefox. Log into each of these control panels, start with the one with highest ratio and go down, you might get tired.
And post someonething on the startpage, anything, javascript redirect, adsense ads + high paying keyword contnet, just alot of links, you name it.

Each time you post something, as in: log in to the control panel, post data etc, use Live HTTP Headers to save what you sent.

Now create a script in php or what you like best that posts this data that you collected with Live HTTP Headers. Set up a cron job that runs the script quite often. They refresh the CMSs every 2 hours I think.

I have not tried this but it's an idea I've had.

shaggz · 03-27-2007, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicify

BLACKHAT AHEAD

Spam the shit out of OpenSourceCMS - CMS Ratings
The place where you can test the control panel of alot of CMSs
How to do it:
Get Live HTTP headers for firefox. Log into each of these control panels, start with the one with highest ratio and go down, you might get tired.
And post someonething on the startpage, anything, javascript redirect, adsense ads + high paying keyword contnet, just alot of links, you name it.

Each time you post something, as in: log in to the control panel, post data etc, use Live HTTP Headers to save what you sent.

Now create a script in php or what you like best that posts this data that you collected with Live HTTP Headers. Set up a cron job that runs the script quite often. They refresh the CMSs every 2 hours I think.

I have not tried this but it's an idea I've had.

Interesting

Deliguy · 03-27-2007, 08:09 PM

Any Blue hats by chance? haha j/king
Very cool barman! I'm all about the black hat

Simplest code to rank for any term in google images

Quote:

<td>Keyword<br>
<p><img src="images/keyword.jpg" alt="keyword">
keyword</p>
</td>

Keyword in same table cell as image
keyword in alt tag
keyword in image name and image meta file summary
keyword in same paragraph as image

Quote:

BLACKHAT AHEAD

hehe. A Head. intentional pun?

Jon · 03-27-2007, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deliguy

Any Blue hats by chance? haha j/king
Very cool barman! I'm all about the black hat

Simplest code to rank for any term in google images
Keyword in same table cell as image
keyword in alt tag
keyword in image name and image meta file summary
keyword in same paragraph as image

hehe. A Head. intentional pun?

You forgot to include the advice on keyword stuffing and hidden text.

Aequitas · 03-27-2007, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deliguy

Any Blue hats by chance? haha j/king
Very cool barman! I'm all about the black hat

Simplest code to rank for any term in google images

Quote:

<td>Keyword<br>
<p><img src="images/keyword.jpg" alt="keyword">
keyword</p>
</td>

Keyword in same table cell as image
keyword in alt tag
keyword in image name and image meta file summary
keyword in same paragraph as image

hehe. A Head. intentional pun?

Is it wrong to include an h1 tag around the image tag when trying to rank the way shown here so instead of the above code it would look like this

Quote:

<td>Keyword<br>
<p><h1><img src="images/keyword.jpg" alt="keyword" />
keyword</h1></p>
</td>

Anyone think that would help out a bit more, except I don't think its right programming practice to include h1 tags inside of a paragraph tag, little things like that are dumb.

P.S. You forgot to close your image tag />

Deliguy · 03-27-2007, 08:53 PM

i tried all sorts of combinations and variations with heading tags and google images and couldn't get a single verifiable result. Also, of the four factors I listed above, the alt tag seemed to have the small effect in its rankings. Perhaps they thought that would be the first place spammers would go.

Deliguy · 03-28-2007, 09:05 PM

Bump
We need to keep this thread going for a little while longer. More ideas please

barman · 03-28-2007, 09:57 PM

Some good tips here. I suppose I can give out a hat or two. I should count how many I have haha

03-27-2007, 03:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
barman Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Internets Posts: 5,848 iTrader: 12 / 100%	contest: Are you white or black hat? So a few months ago I had a balance over at this embroidery shop. I got a bunch of shit along with these SEO hats. Lame, I know, but now I don't know what to do with them. One version is a black hat, and one is a white hat, and they will get you some poon when some hot chick at the bar goes, "So, what's an SEO?" I figured why not give some away. Here are the contest rules. Post a black hat or white hat tip that will help people out here. And it can't be some free tip that's plastered all over the web. It has to be a nice little known nugget of information. I will give one away, your choice. The best tip between posts 1-20 will win one, and the best post between 21-40 will win one. Hopefully there's a decent tip between all the smart ass remarks that will be post. This contest is not sponsored at all by WF and its founder or members. I'm doing it on my own free will. The white hat is actually white, and not ass yellow like the picture makes it out to be. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Where Affiliate Marketers go for News. and Weed.

03-27-2007, 04:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
Firelead Affiliate Network Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: PA Posts: 559 iTrader: 2 / 100%	White hat White Hat: When building backlinks, occasionally misspell your anchor text. The search engine's view it as "natural". Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Mike Kenna Owner AIM: Firelead Net 412.499.3176 Firelead Affiliate Network Follow me on Twitter

03-27-2007, 04:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
cdc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boston Posts: 185 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Blackhat Tip: Read WageRank Whitehat Tip: Use DIRZAP: The Free Directory Submission Tool Ok, ok. I'll stop the self promotion. How about this one: don't listen to people who tell you that getting links from 'bad neighborhoods' can negatively effect your rankings. If they could, I would just get links to my competitors' sites from every bad neighborhood I can find. It boils down to: You can't be penalized for off-page SEO. GET AS MANY LINKS AS YOU CAN!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

03-27-2007, 04:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
indicas Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 60 iTrader: 0 / 0%	neither - we are what you call green hat! so natural. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

03-27-2007, 04:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
Juicify Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 944 iTrader: 0 / 0%	BLACKHAT AHEAD Spam the shit out of OpenSourceCMS - CMS Ratings The place where you can test the control panel of alot of CMSs How to do it: Get Live HTTP headers for firefox. Log into each of these control panels, start with the one with highest ratio and go down, you might get tired. And post someonething on the startpage, anything, javascript redirect, adsense ads + high paying keyword contnet, just alot of links, you name it. Each time you post something, as in: log in to the control panel, post data etc, use Live HTTP Headers to save what you sent. Now create a script in php or what you like best that posts this data that you collected with Live HTTP Headers. Set up a cron job that runs the script quite often. They refresh the CMSs every 2 hours I think. I have not tried this but it's an idea I've had. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Get Unlimited 100% Unique Quality Content with my Rewriter Tool

03-27-2007, 08:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
Deliguy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 4,905 iTrader: 11 / 100%	i tried all sorts of combinations and variations with heading tags and google images and couldn't get a single verifiable result. Also, of the four factors I listed above, the alt tag seemed to have the small effect in its rankings. Perhaps they thought that would be the first place spammers would go. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________

03-28-2007, 09:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
Deliguy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 4,905 iTrader: 11 / 100%	Bump We need to keep this thread going for a little while longer. More ideas please Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________

03-28-2007, 09:57 PM	#14 (permalink)
barman Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Internets Posts: 5,848 iTrader: 12 / 100%	Some good tips here. I suppose I can give out a hat or two. I should count how many I have haha Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Where Affiliate Marketers go for News. and Weed.

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