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Old 03-08-2012, 06:52 PM   #1
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Interesting Government Explained

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUS1m5MSt9k]Government Explained - YouTube[/ame]


An inquisitive alien visits the planet to check on our progress as a species, and gets into a conversation with the first person he meets. The alien discovers that we live under the rule of a thing called "government", and wants to understand more about what "government" is, what it does, and why it exists.
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Great video! It really connects to the reality nowdays. Love the alien!
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:55 PM   #3
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Great video. But there will always be a government as people are fearful, weak and helpless. It's not so much that they really are but they definately believe it. Government isn't evil as we create it. We are the ones that say we wouldn't make it on our own.
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I just watched the video.

A lot of the world's superpowers are still in their infancy. Mankind itself it's still pretty much in it's infancy. If you even do a little research into history you will see other countries/kingdoms that held power for maybe 400 years... even 500 years. Even the great old cultures and kingdoms that ruled for over a thousand years.

But they all fall, eventually. The world changes dramatically all the time. Not really so much in our lifetimes, but in general. This day and age we live in isn't even a blip on the radar of time. I bet if we went into the future 10,000 years, the USA/England/etc would be nothing more than a few chapters in a history book.

But for the time being, do we really want to embrace an unknown evil (world without laws or government) for a known evil (a little bit of sanity and order even if it's slightly corrupt)?

A lot of people scream out for revolt or change, but I don't really think they know what they want.

No person, no country, no kingdom, no superpower has ever been infinite. Nobody has perfected the formula for a utopia. No king rules forever.

Just my .02.
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:14 AM   #6
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But for the time being, do we really want to embrace an unknown evil (world without laws or government) for a known evil (a little bit of sanity and order even if it's slightly corrupt)?
The Native Americans had what could be considered governments, but everyone was voluntarily a member of the tribe as it was very easy for anyone to leave if they wanted. Their governments may have viewed themselves as being in control of the crops they planted, but most everything else was open and free. That's the opposite of today where governments claim to have control over every inch of land on the planet.
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The Native Americans had what could be considered governments, but everyone was voluntarily a member of the tribe as it was very easy for anyone to leave if they wanted. Their governments may have viewed themselves as being in control of the crops they planted, but most everything else was open and free. That's the opposite of today where governments claim to have control over every inch of land on the planet.
Their lands were destroyed by another culture/country, people slain, and they lost their way of life. Eventually, their empire crumbled.

Like I said, no perfect system has been found.

Not trying to troll by saying this, because what was done to them was horrible as is the case with all people who are exploited. Just illustrating my point that there is no utopia.
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:28 AM   #8
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The alien may also come from a world where there is no murder or stealing. There wouldn't be a point in making a video where he discusses that with the human though, as most people already agree that those things are wrong. People thinking that stealing is wrong doesn't mean those people believe we can have a world soon with no stealing. The point of the video was not to make people think that a utopian world without government is possible any time soon either, but was just to get people to consider if it is right or wrong.
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Good video! I think everybody knows that the world needs change, but I don't think anybody has a workable solution so nothing changes.
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Do you know why fruit exists? Simply to lure us into eating the seeds, which we then proceed to crap out elsewhere so the plant can spread. We're just tools that plants use to distribute seeds.

How do plants lure us to eat the fruit once the seeds are finally mature and no sooner? the fruit sweetens up and changes colour from green to red\yellow\orange etc. They treat us like idiots.

We are actually ruled by plants, all this shit is an illusion. Not only that, but we breath their waste product... oxygen. How demeaning.
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Great video! Yeah it sucks but we have no other choice.
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The Native Americans had what could be considered governments, but everyone was voluntarily a member of the tribe as it was very easy for anyone to leave if they wanted. Their governments may have viewed themselves as being in control of the crops they planted, but most everything else was open and free. That's the opposite of today where governments claim to have control over every inch of land on the planet.
Which native Americans? The ones in the North or South? Because the natives in the South had some pretty horrendously oppressive governments (human sacrifice, empire, etc.). But needless to say as mentioned earlier they were both wiped out by another government and now their people live on welfare and abject poverty TO THIS DAY. It's simple to romanticize the "noble savage" archetype, even the founding fathers of the United States looked to the Natives in admiration in their own weird way.. but I have trouble glorifying a culture that was so easily destroyed by a small handful of people (The Aztecs, if I remember correctly, were conquered by a few hundred Spanish men) and hadn't even discovered fire by the time Europeans came to settle.
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nice video, i can't wait to see what video the government will make of this guy.
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Which native Americans? The ones in the North or South? Because the natives in the South had some pretty horrendously oppressive governments (human sacrifice, empire, etc.). But needless to say as mentioned earlier they were both wiped out by another government and now their people live on welfare and abject poverty TO THIS DAY. It's simple to romanticize the "noble savage" archetype, even the founding fathers of the United States looked to the Natives in admiration in their own weird way.. but I have trouble glorifying a culture that was so easily destroyed by a small handful of people (The Aztecs, if I remember correctly, were conquered by a few hundred Spanish men) and hadn't even discovered fire by the time Europeans came to settle.
Native south american population was destroyed by diseases.
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Good video! I think everybody knows that the world needs change, but I don't think anybody has a workable solution so nothing changes.
Project Venus and the Zeitgeist movement.
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I am a grateful slave.
My master is a good man.
He gives me food, shelter, work and other things.
All he requires in return is that I obey him.
I am told he has the power to control my life.
I look up to him, and wish that I were so powerful.

My master must understand the world better than I,
because he was chosen by many others for his respected position.
I sometimes complain, but fear I cannot live without his help.
He is a good man.

My master protects my money from theft, before and after he takes half of it.
Before taking his half, he says only he can protect my money.
After taking it, he says it is still mine.
When he spends my money, he says I own the things he has bought.
I don't understand this, but I believe him.
He is a good man.

I need my master for protection, because others would hurt me.
Or, they would take my money and use it for themselves.
My master is better than them:
When my master takes my money, I still own it.
The things he buys are mine.
I cannot sell them, or decide how they are used, but they are mine.
My master tells me so, and I believe him.
He is a good man.

My master provides free education for my children.
He teaches them to respect and obey him and all future masters they will have.
He says they are being taught well; learning things they will need to know in the future.
I believe him.
He is a good man.

My master cares about other masters, who don't have good slaves.
He makes me contribute to their support.
I don't understand why slaves must work for more than one master, but my master says it is necessary.
I believe him.
He is a good man.

Other slaves ask my master for some of my money.
Since he is good to them as he is to me, he agrees.
This means he must take more of my money; but he says this is good for me.
I ask my master why it would not be better to let each of us keep our own money.
He says it is because he knows what is best for each of us.
We believe him.
He is a good man.

My master tells me:
Evil masters in other places are not as good as he; they threaten our comfortable lifestyle and peace.
So, he sends my children to fight the slaves of evil masters.
I mourn their deaths, but my master says it is necessary.
He gives me medals for their sacrifice, and I believe him.
He is a good man.

Good masters sometimes have to kill evil masters, and their slaves.
This is necessary to preserve our way of life; to show others that our version of slavery is the best.
I asked my master:
Why do evil masters' slaves have to be killed, along with their evil master?
He said: "Because they carry out his evil deeds."
"Besides, they could never learn our system; they have been indoctrinated to believe that only their master is good."
My master knows what is best.
He protects me and my children.
He is a good man.

My master lets me vote for a new master, every few years.
I cannot vote to have no master, but he generously lets me choose between two candidates he has selected.
I eagerly wait until election day, since voting allows me to forget that I am a slave.
Until then, my current master tells me what to do.
I accept this.
It has always been so, and I would not change tradition.
My master is a good man.

At the last election, about half the slaves were allowed to vote.
The other half had broken rules set by the master, or were not thought by him to be fit.
Those who break the rules should know better than to disobey!
Those not considered fit should gratefully accept the master chosen for them by others.
It is right, because we have always done it this way.
My master is a good man.

There were two candidates.
One received a majority of the vote - about one-fourth of the slave population.
I asked why the new master can rule over all the slaves, if he only received votes from one-fourth of them?
My master said: "Because some wise masters long ago did it that way."
"Besides, you are the slaves; and we are the master."
I did not understand his answer, but I believed him.
My master knows what is best for me.
He is a good man.

Some slaves have evil masters.
They take more than half of their slaves' money and are chosen by only one-tenth, rather than one-fourth, of their slaves.
My master says they are different from him.
I believe him.
He is a good man.

I asked if I could ever become a master, instead of a slave.
My master said, "Yes, anything is possible."
"But first you must pledge allegiance to your present master, and promise not to abandon the system that made you a slave."
I am encouraged by this possibility.
My master is a good man.

He tells me slaves are the real masters, because they can vote for their masters.
I do not understand this, but I believe him.
He is a good man; who lives for no other purpose than to make his slaves happy.

I asked if I could be neither a master nor a slave.
My master said, "No, you must be one or the other."
"There are not other choices."
I believe him.
He knows best.
He is a good man.

I asked my master how our system is different, from those evil masters.
He said: "In our system, masters work for the slaves."
No longer confused, I am beginning to accept his logic.
Now I see it!
Slaves are in control of their masters, because they can choose new masters every few years.
When the masters appear to control the slaves in between elections, it is all a grand delusion!
In reality, they are carrying out the slaves' desires.
For if this were not so, they would not have been chosen in the last election.
How clear it is to me now!
I shall never doubt the system again.
My master is a good man.

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Project Venus is a fundamentally flawed concept on multiple levels.
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I just watched the video.

A lot of the world's superpowers are still in their infancy. Mankind itself it's still pretty much in it's infancy. If you even do a little research into history you will see other countries/kingdoms that held power for maybe 400 years... even 500 years. Even the great old cultures and kingdoms that ruled for over a thousand years.

But they all fall, eventually. The world changes dramatically all the time. Not really so much in our lifetimes, but in general. This day and age we live in isn't even a blip on the radar of time. I bet if we went into the future 10,000 years, the USA/England/etc would be nothing more than a few chapters in a history book.

But for the time being, do we really want to embrace an unknown evil (world without laws or government) for a known evil (a little bit of sanity and order even if it's slightly corrupt)?

A lot of people scream out for revolt or change, but I don't really think they know what they want.

No person, no country, no kingdom, no superpower has ever been infinite. Nobody has perfected the formula for a utopia. No king rules forever.

Just my .02.
I'm guessing you're either Chinese or Indian!

Great points though.
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Project Venus and the Zeitgeist movement.
Both Flawed.

The Alien is obviously an Anarcho-Capitalist... I bet he reads Mises too.
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