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Old 04-15-2012, 07:24 PM   #1
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Thank you. I just saw this same talk on TED, and I agree.
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He brought up some great points. And you can't watch this video without realizing how thinking like an entrepreneur, having marketing and programming skills is insanely valuable in today's rapidly changing world.

The future is very promising as long as we are willing to embrace the changes.
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He's saying the exact same fucking thing I've been talking about since the world's economy started going down the shitter. Whenever someone says stuff like "the world is on a downward spiral" or starts talking about how good things used to be, I ask him/her one simple question:

If you had a time machine at your disposal, would you choose to live in the past?

You know... shitty or no technology, a lower life expectancy and so on?

I know I wouldn't.
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the only thing that will stop this are greedy fu@@@ing oil companies that want us to keep on powering our houses etc with fossil fuel. i do hope the future is brighter and that fat cats ceo fu@k off.
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the only thing that will stop this are greedy fu@@@ing oil companies that want us to keep on powering our houses etc with fossil fuel. i do hope the future is brighter and that fat cats ceo fu@k off.
That we're even aware that's the problem is evidence that the future is bright.

Dood is right, no government can even slow down technology. If not here somewhere else.

DC so fucked
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This is more like a high tech look at what is being worked on.
He is missing a lot of the really great stuff.

He is also missing all the high tech weapons, when your on the end of an attack from this stuff you dont say the world is getting better.. well getting better at killing someone.

He is also leaving out the most important issue, the fundamental point.

The nature of man. Anyone notice how many were murdered and how much hell was unleashed during 1900 till 2000?

If you have money.. theres a lot of great stuff you can buy to make your life and your family etc.. better off.. but if your poor.. not so much...

Wmd's will be used in the future in war, terror attacks etc... the weapons are getting more powerful.. but the nature of man remains the same...

You can go to mars.. but the darkness of man will follow.

guerilla is one of the best posters on wf.. without him it wouldnt be so great.. but im not sure i agree here...


Also did you see the Classic star trek in back? its made from playmates toys in the 1990's i think..
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If you have money.. theres a lot of great stuff you can buy to make your life and your family etc.. better off.. but if your poor.. not so much...
Ok, if you think the world isn't getting better, answer the question I posted in this thread:

If you had a time machine at your disposal, would you choose to live in the past?

... if so, which time period and why?
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Im not sure you understand what im saying.. high tech is getting more powerful yes.

But take a look at the years 1900 to 2000 notice anything? Its a bloodbath of murder and destruction.
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Im not sure you understand what im saying.. high tech is getting more powerful yes.

But take a look at the years 1900 to 2000 notice anything? Its a bloodbath of murder and destruction.
... alright, a bloodbath of murder and destruction. Got it.

Now please answer my question:

If you had a time machine at your disposal, would you choose to live in the past?

In other words, would you choose to live in the past if someone gave you the once-in-a-lifetime-opportunity to do that and say goodbye to the bloodbath of murder and destruction that is the 1900-2000 time period?
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Look at my first post. The fundamental nature of man. I choose 1900 to 2000 because most people know a least some of what happened here.

It wouldnt matter what time you went back to, the nature of man has stayed the same.

So when you say the world is getting better.. the high tech is getting more powerful yes.

In fact i think one day a smartphone will be so powerful, that it would have more computer power then all the computers on the face of the earth today. Think Biochips.

But in the world we live in, the nature of man is the same.. the weapons getting more and more powerful.. one day using them in large scale...

We would at some point have the ability to kill everyone and everything on the face of the globe.. some say we have that now..

However.. in a world war.. the world could turn out much more wmd type weapons in numbers we cant even think of...


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Nature of man is sort of a shallow argument I come up against all the time.

I am a man, and I don't have a violent nature.

It's generally better to stick to specifics rather than make blanket statements if possible, just because there are often exceptions which disprove the rule.
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I dont mean just violence in nature of man. But im sure you can see my point at least?
I do understand yours.
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I do see your point, but I believe you're wrong. There is no fixed fundamental nature of man.

Man is highly adaptable which is why we're the dominant species on this planet. No species is as adaptable as we are, both to circumstance and to opportunity.
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But in the world we live in, the nature of man is the same.. the weapons getting more and more powerful.. one day using them in large scale...
What you're saying is that human nature stayed the same (in other words, that there will always be wars, for example) but that nowadays, a large-scale conflict similar to WWI or WWII or a could have catastrophic consequences.

Unfortunately, I agree with you.

Guerilla doesn't but I do.

I asked you to answer my question because after drawing the line, there has to be an answer.

The world is either becoming a better place as time passes or it isn't.

On the one hand, you have advantages such as an increased life expectancy and on the other hand, you have disadvantages such as weapons that are powerful enough to generate catastrophic consequences if they end up being used in a large-scale conflict.

Again, I agree.

But I'm asking you to draw an imaginary line and answer just one question:

If you had a time machine at your disposal, would you choose to live in the past?


So after analyzing the pros and cons I mentioned previously, what would your choice be?

If you'd choose another time period, then it means you think the world isn't becoming a better place. If you choose the present, then it means you think the world is becoming a better place as time passes.

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Diamond Pete is quite the optimist, nonetheless.

I agree that technology will greatly speed up, but wherever the authoritarian government of the day exists, there will be an imbalance of what that technology is used for.

Sadly, the US is the worst offender these days. It's horrible policies are rapidly driving innovators away from our shores and into BRICS countries... Does it learn? Not without bloodshed. Clearly Peter was talking about teh BRICS nations and not us, because here we are going to see little technological advancement that isn't used AGAINST us.

If Paul were to win, however...
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Also, the person who says "cyber attacks!" and "doomsday" in the first 11 seconds of the film, was Mo Rocca,making any argument completely invalid.

That being said... I agree. Shit sucks now, temporarily, but the future things will be amazing!
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I would go back to 1984 to see the Tigers win the World Series again, then promptly start betting on all the sporting events whose outcomes I could remember, buying up stocks with my winnings, registering all the best domain names, etc...

Or is that not what you meant?
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little note on technology and weapons and all that shit.... Nuclear weapons has made war on a global scale unthinkable, and basically unwinnable For all sides.

Thus you get low intensity conflicts like Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and post-soviet you get Somalia and Iraq and Afghanistan.... Again

Super/Smart weapons have made wars shorter and with fewer casualties
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Until the biological weapons get in the wrong hands...
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Until the biological weapons get in the wrong hands...

True... but something should be said that we've come 60+ years with no major nuclear/biological/chemical attack.

Despite the fact that we've had two major opposing political blocks with their fingers on the button for 50 of those years.
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If you had a time machine at your disposal, would you choose to live in the past?

... if so, which time period and why?
I'll answer your question. I'd rather live in the 50s, 60s, 70s, or 80s again for a few reasons. One, music and film was much better back then. Those industries hadn't been taken over by the Illuminati yet so art was just as important as making a buck. Now, both of those industries use marketing templates to sell the 'art.' There is no longer any variety in what we are given and the quality of the art has suffered too for a number of reasons.

Secondly, I prefer a simpler existence. Who cares if some guy in Africa has a cell phone now. For that matter, who cares if I have a cellphone. We got along without them before and our lives didn't suffer because of it. In fact, our relationships with people were better for it because we didn't rely on text or IM's to talk with people.

The only major advantages I see in the future are technological advantages in medicine which will keep us living longer. Other than that, I don't see many other positives to living in the future because our happiness relies on other people and as we can see right now, other people are working to make our lives worse, not better.
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True... but something should be said that we've come 60+ years with no major nuclear/biological/chemical attack.

Despite the fact that we've had two major opposing political blocks with their fingers on the button for 50 of those years.
You might have read in the news recently about the Dual use of H5N1 research and the gov agency who tried to kill the research. They tried because they are very concerned that publishing the details of the experiments in which they created an airborne, mammalian adapted H5N1 strain would put the recipe in the hands of terrorists or basement biochemists, potentially releasing the doomsday virus and threatening the demise of us humans.

They also need to be concerned that Nation States (read China) has the virus already neatly wrapped up in vials in their military biolabs. These players would not hesitate to use them to further their goals or save their own necks from an uprising population (read the latest news of Bo in China).

Either way... nature is also tinkering with the genetic makeup of H5N1 and is slowly mutating toward human adaptation.

Nuke war is a distinct possibility with all the crap going on these days with Iran and NK... but IMHO the one to watch is H5N1, either a natural mutation or an intentional release.
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I do think it is funny that after watching the video, so many people miss the point and go back to talking about fear.

Folks taking self-driving cars for granted, worried instead about military technologies they know absolutely nothing about.
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Thus you get low intensity conflicts like Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and post-soviet you get Somalia and Iraq and Afghanistan.... Again

Super/Smart weapons have made wars shorter and with fewer casualties
Don't forget the after-effects of chemicals / bombs used in war. Just one example is the use of depleted uranium in bombs. It will continue to affect a huge area (thousands of square miles) for decades after the war is over
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wow, something positive. Made my day.
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This is a great fucking video. Will be sure to share this with all my friends who still believe the world if fucked!
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Just a minute into the video... "The human lifespan has more than doubled in the last hundred years". Nope. And at this point I stopped watching.
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Just a minute into the video... "The human lifespan has more than doubled in the last hundred years". Nope. And at this point I stopped watching.
Not only does this not surprise me, I am grinning ear to ear.
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Look at my first post. The fundamental nature of man. I choose 1900 to 2000 because most people know a least some of what happened here.

It wouldnt matter what time you went back to, the nature of man has stayed the same.

So when you say the world is getting better.. the high tech is getting more powerful yes.

In fact i think one day a smartphone will be so powerful, that it would have more computer power then all the computers on the face of the earth today. Think Biochips.

But in the world we live in, the nature of man is the same.. the weapons getting more and more powerful.. one day using them in large scale...

We would at some point have the ability to kill everyone and everything on the face of the globe.. some say we have that now..

However.. in a world war.. the world could turn out much more wmd type weapons in numbers we cant even think of...


p.s. Nice work on the 114 positive feedback at 100%.
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I am absolutely serious.
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I do think it is funny that after watching the video, so many people miss the point and go back to talking about fear.

Folks taking self-driving cars for granted, worried instead about military technologies they know absolutely nothing about.
I appreciate your optimism, but how can you deny the possibility that this tech simply will be suppressed and misused in the US?

I agree with lukep in that the BRIC countries have far more to look forward to than those of us in merica.

Serious question: Is your optimism aimed towards all countries of the world evenly? Pretty sure little african kids could give a fuck less about the already amazing technological advances made in the last 20-30 years.
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I am absolutely serious.
Is there ever a time in history where the violent and dominant nature of man wasn't ever present? I assume you believe we will evolve beyond this? Not saying this isn't possible, just unlikely.
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I appreciate your optimism, but how can you deny the possibility that this tech simply will be suppressed and misused in the US?
Apparently you didn't watch the video.

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Serious question: Is your optimism aimed towards all countries of the world evenly? Pretty sure little african kids could give a fuck less about the already amazing technological advances made in the last 20-30 years.
Yeah, clean water, education and food doesn't affect them at all.

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I'm dominant, but I don't do it with violence.

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I assume you believe we will evolve beyond this? Not saying this isn't possible, just unlikely.
*sigh*
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