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Old 05-13-2015, 08:32 PM   #1
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Checkthisout Case Study: Spending 25,000.00 on an offline biz using WickedFire BST services.

So I've been primarily a lurker on these forums for the past 5 years and even though I only have 5 or so iTrader, I've spent around 50k through different providers over the years (Mostly in 2010 and 2011 before the major Google spam updates started rolling through every other month). Since then I have taken a step back and reevaluated how I was going to move forward with SEO in the future.

These days I have dropped all of my clients and now only invest in offline businesses that are willing to offer me a percentage of their company to handle their marketing (much more lucrative).

Anyways I figured since I have learned so much over the years from a (select few) WickedFire members that i would post my most recent project here and the service providers I'll be using.

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First thing is first. I always try and hit up the following two threads and make sure I stick as close as possible to what these two suggest.

CCarter - Brand thread (SERPwoo is the shit)
I follow pretty close to what he does here for the exception of completely avoiding Fiverr services. I use 48hourslogo.com for my logos, I always buy a premium theme from themeforest (and then heavily modify it), I don't use any UPS mailboxes or known virtual offices like Davinci & instead go with shared work spaces or little known virtual offices. (even though you can get a suite number from a UPS box, it is very easy to tell you have a UPS box from the street view), lastly, since I am marketing an offline business I only do 1-2k followers and likes on the social media sites. Everything else I pretty much follow to the T.

dzianis - I won't start link building until 6/1/15 after all of my local places and social media have all been finished or have all been running for a month or so but I like to read over this older thread a lot when I am planning my link-building and then scale it up. This guy really knows his shit. Blue Hat SEO Contest

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Content:

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- Thread here - This guy only had 35 posts, but he definitely delivered. His writers are 100% not Indian (lol) perfect grammar, with really well done niche and keyword research. Also a very quick TAT. Already purchased around 100k words and will probably be adding another 200k words of long tail blog posts over the next few months. (Use this guy!)______________

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I use two providers here, one to setup the profiles and keep the profiles fresh and another for shares. Both guys are fuckin awesome and over deliver every time.

Shares:

Diablo9975 and I purchase 270.00 package (Pack E, I think)

His Thread is Here
and he seems to always over deliver.

Brand Setup & Posting (Also Google Local):

Andrew Scherer - His thread here.

I know there are other providers on here who offer the same services or similar, but I have found that he has done the best work for me when it comes to local citations. (Side note: AdamSteele is an absolute fuck face who has scammed me out of 2400.00 in the past and since he is based out of Canada I didn't pursue any legal actions against him. DON'T USE HIM).

I'm buying the follow from Andrew for 8 separate locations (3 real - 5 Virtual Offices)

Bare Essentials (x8)
Content Kings (x8)
Underdogs (x8)
Big Bertha (x8)

This will start my social media and also secure my brand name across tons of social media sites. (Brand Name - City)

Google Local Business:

Hyper Local Citations - 40 (x8)
Big Citations (x8)
Rich Media Citations (x8)

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Link Building:

I have selected several people for this (One of which is banned on this forum)

1. This is the where the majority of my money will be going.
Second & Skohh - Stuff that works without Spam (I am really excited about this one.) Will begin around 6/1/15

2. Infographics - I bought 3 from Member8200
They do really good graphic design work (Poor English though - but no biggie) I plan on trying to get these out to several high end blogs and promoting them on Social Media (Hopefully they go Viral).

3. This guy has an absolute shit rep on this forum, but he has a lot of solid reviews on other forums and his new service is one of a kind so I decided to risk it. Hopefully he doesn't take my 3k and run lol) Nanexo!

4. Shakeitout - Thread here - Going to be purchasing 20 Topical Tropical posts.

5. Kingofthewiki - Thread here - Getting one Wikipedia link for an exact keyword.



I will be posting rankings as I go and as more things get started.

For now, just by following CCarters thread I am already ranking top 20 for most keywords with content alone and even have a few top 3's.

So far so good!

Software I'm using:
SERPWoo, Ahrefs, Moz, Majestic, SEMRush, SERPBook, and several others. If you want graphs just let me know.

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Old 05-13-2015, 08:39 PM   #2
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Old 05-14-2015, 12:26 AM   #3
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You can delete the post above.

Here we are for today 5/14/15

As you can see the lower MS keys are actually ranking by themselves with just content and CCarters Brand go-by.



Topical trust is all wrong here and the TR is shit but the only backlinks I have right now are coming from an old 301'd domain which had to be forwarded. I'm sure this won't be an issue once the links start getting built.



Nothing worth anything yet on Moz.




Keyword rankings for the higher traffic non-city targeted keywords.



Local city targeted keywords, not bad for not having started link-building yet. Don't let the 0 MS fool you, SERPBook doesn't know wtf it is talking about.
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Old 05-14-2015, 12:29 AM   #4
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I imagine you're tracking this, but are you willing to post the direct revenue impact?
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I imagine you're tracking this, but are you willing to post the direct revenue impact?
I will post weekly revenue and amount of traffic, call volume through Callfire.

2 calls today - One business related and the other a sales call.
No live chats
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Haven't checked web traffic.

AVG job profit is around 6k when closed. Can get the really rare jobs that go for over 100k in this niche. CPC 80.00 - 350.00
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You're going to get slammed with telemarketers in the beginning, get rdy with that call block feature lol
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While I admire your gusto, SEO isn't a one size fits all situation. There is a bit of a blueprint, but it isn't as simple as ordering a bunch of BSTs. I cuddle with Andrew and Ross, but at the end of a long night of partying, I go home by myself. Get what I'm saying?

If you don't, that's cool. I still offer cuddles for $100 per hour. My place or yours.
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Nanexo? This thread's a joke, right?
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Listen to @jstover77

I have a lot of respect for all of these service providers and call most of them my friends...but I think you need a better understanding of what ranks sites for the long haul before you drop this kind of money. There are other variables in play here.

It'll be cool to see how this case study plays out...but I'd hate to see you lose $25k because you were slapped with some kind of penalty.
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Very informative thread. Thanks for sharing Tim.
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Nanexo? This thread's a joke, right?
haha, he is definitely a wild card, but he seems to know his shit and life outside of wickedfire yields a ton of positive reviews. He showed me a few things as well which led me to believe that his portfolio and infographics for his services along with other things just have too much work in them to be running a scam. But we will see!
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I think there is a whole section missing to this from the OP ( thanks for the SERPWoo shout out BTW, you gonna be in the webinar today... right? )

Who built the site?

Was the site already built before you came into the business, or did you build it?

If you built it, was it you or an outsource job?

Who did the content and how much?

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I think there is a whole section missing to this from the OP ( thanks for the SERPWoo shout out BTW, you gonna be in the webinar today... right? )

Who built the site?

Was the site already built before you came into the business, or did you build it?

If you built it, was it you or an outsource job?

Who did the content and how much?

etc.

I don't know if I will be around to catch the webinar, you will have it available afterwards right?

I built the site in WordPress and used GoDaddy's new WordPress hosting service, not many people seem to know about it, but it has unlimited everything and it is extremely fast. Pretty expensive though.

I bought an extended SSL, registered the .com,.net,.org,.co,.info until 2025, same with hosting.

It is a SILO site

I hired a coder to help me get the page speed way down and to fix a few PHP errors that I just couldn't seem to get.

I made sure the site is w3c verified and I entered in schema where I could.

I use Jivochat for the live chat/proactive chat. They have an app that shoots a text directly to my phone to help close out biz. You'd be surprised how many people will contact me from work and can't talk on the phone at that moment.

I use CallFire for the toll-free and then 8 local numbers.

The website currently has around 100-120 pages of content, all done by the provider I listed above. I will also be adding another 100-200 blog posts related to long tail keys over the next 3 months.

Content costs 0.025 a word. But it is done with the proper research, has relevant OBL's, and has gotten me on Wikipedia as a reference in my niche.


There was a website before me, but it wasn't on the current domain. It was http://brandname-state.com, I purchased https://brandname.com from an old lady in Canada, she actually gave it to me for free. The only links the site has currently are the old 301'd links from the original site, but all of it's content and the site itself are gone. It's link profile wasn't worth anything.
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I still offer cuddles for $100 per hour. My place or yours.
Nice one @ jstover77

I hope Tim is not marketing for offline clients and then some online, following the same business model.

Some of the people on the list like CCarter Dzianis, and Andrew( sorry if I missed anyone else that offer great services) look natural picks.

As for others, I'd take it with a pinch of salt, because I'm still stuck with the following comment by OP

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now only invest in offline businesses that are willing to offer me a percentage of their company to handle their marketing (much more lucrative).
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Nice one @ jstover77

I hope Tim is not marketing for offline clients and then some online, following the same business model.

Some of the people on the list like CCarter Dzianis, and Andrew( sorry if I missed anyone else that offer great services) look natural picks.

As for others, I'd take it with a pinch of salt, because I'm still stuck with the following comment by OP
What?
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Looks like this offline biz will be needing a new website by October.
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Are you talking about this guy



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More info on this please.
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Are you talking about this guy



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More info on this please.
Yes I am, I had paid him 400.00 a few years back to get me to the A spot for a weight loss company. He did a great job so I sent him 2400.00 for several other addresses where he promised to provide virtual address and A rankings. After months of no results he told me he no longer wanted work with me (lol?) and referred me to someone else, no refund. Since he is based outside of the country I felt it wasn't enough money to pursue legal action, and at that time I was past Paypal's dispute date. SOL

So I contacted the person he referred me to just to find out that he had actual subbed the first job out to this guy, so he wasn't even the one that did the good work originally. I actually made a thread here about it and pretty much nobody believed me.
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Looks like this offline biz will be needing a new website by October.
Why do you say that? Too many backlinks? I am aiming for a very high TF with a solid 1.0+ TR rating, tons of content and social media. I respect your opinion so if you don't mind, please post a reply.
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^^ op how about too much talking about it in a public forum.
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AYYYYYYY LMAO

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Are you referring to Moz TrustRank here? Not my preferred metric but quality links start a lot higher than 1.

I don't have a dog in this fight but it feels to me like you're trying to create chef quality cuisine by throwing every ingredient in the kitchen into your pan when you'd be better served to have a recipe...and maybe a background in culinary arts. And possibly some different ingredients.

Shit goes haywire so quick with SEO when the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. And you're up in here like:



Good luck bro, I'm sure you'll learn a lot.
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Great list Tim. I've used a number of the above folks too, and mostly all good experiences. Hat tip to you sir for taking the time to put this together for us.

As for our business dealings, let me break it down:

Yes, we did work together, you spending a total of $2400.

No, things didn't work out, as some times they don't in SEO.

No, we didn't have a guarantee that protected against poor results, check out our old site in Way Back Machine and you can read our guarantee.

No, you weren't a good fit, so I referred you out to someone who might meet your expectations.

I recall, you created this thread: SCAM ALERT: Adam Steel - Creature Local. I left this thread alone then because your claims of a guarantee, and a sure thing were unfounded. 5 years later, they are just as unfounded.

Tim, as you and everyone else read in that thread, I am a fair and honest provider. I do right by people any chance I get, and always do my best work. I've been doing business on this forum for 5 years now, and I can tell you, if I was the person you claim I am...I wouldn't have lasted. Certainly, the folks that spoke up for me in the thread of yours would have joined you in my public flogging.

I work very hard to make sure my current and past clients are happy. My whole team does. We value tremendously the folks here on WF that have supported us all these years.

This was heart wrenching to read again, because I pour every bit of myself into my businesses. I hope you can find a way to understand, and bury the hatchet, once and for all.

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AYYYYYYY LMAO

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Are you referring to Moz TrustRank here? Not my preferred metric but quality links start a lot higher than 1.

I don't have a dog in this fight but it feels to me like you're trying to create chef quality cuisine by throwing every ingredient in the kitchen into your pan when you'd be better served to have a recipe...and maybe a background in culinary arts. And possibly some different ingredients.

Shit goes haywire so quick with SEO when the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. And you're up in here like:



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Great list Tim. I've used a number of the above folks too, and mostly all good experiences. Hat tip to you sir for taking the time to put this together for us.

As for our business dealings, let me break it down:

Yes, we did work together, you spending a total of $2400.

No, things didn't work out, as some times they don't in SEO.

No, we didn't have a guarantee that protected against poor results, check out our old site in Way Back Machine and you can read our guarantee.

No, you weren't a good fit, so I referred you out to someone who might meet your expectations.

I recall, you created this thread: SCAM ALERT: Adam Steel - Creature Local. I left this thread alone then because your claims of a guarantee, and a sure thing were unfounded. 5 years later, they are just as unfounded.

Tim, as you and everyone else read in that thread, I am a fair and honest provider. I do right by people any chance I get, and always do my best work. I've been doing business on this forum for 5 years now, and I can tell you, if I was the person you claim I am...I wouldn't have lasted. Certainly, the folks that spoke up for me in the thread of yours would have joined you in my public flogging.

I work very hard to make sure my current and past clients are happy. My whole team does. We value tremendously the folks here on WF that have supported us all these years.

This was heart wrenching to read again, because I pour every bit of myself into my businesses. I hope you can find a way to understand, and bury the hatchet, once and for all.

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I completely disagree, I feel that when someone pays someone the amount I paid you (2400.00) and you literally don't deliver any results at all, I feel that is a scam. Especially when the person you referred me to was the person you subcontracted out to do the work in the first place (but you didn't seem to have an issue taking credit for his work).

Anyways, back on topic. I see a lot of people here seem to have a negative view on using these service providers, but I am pretty confident in my game plan and who I have decided to use and for what. So we will see where the results take us.

I've definitely made a topic that is outside the norm of most wickedfire posts here churn and burn bs, or spending 100.00 on fiverr gig case studies , or a bunch of gurus who still live at home with mom or are still in a college dorm and are posting in threads that have to do with starting their first offline business or marketing agency. Or even worse, get ripped threads... I realize I don't have 3k posts, but I actually use these forums to find and hire people, not just throw my facebook memes around other people posts.


I'm really doing this for the providers that I have hired as a favor and a way to track the progress over time. So we will see
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I don't know if I will be around to catch the webinar, you will have it available afterwards right?

I built the site in WordPress and used GoDaddy's new WordPress hosting service, not many people seem to know about it, but it has unlimited everything and it is extremely fast. Pretty expensive though.

I bought an extended SSL, registered the .com,.net,.org,.co,.info until 2025, same with hosting.

It is a SILO site

I hired a coder to help me get the page speed way down and to fix a few PHP errors that I just couldn't seem to get.

I made sure the site is w3c verified and I entered in schema where I could.

I use Jivochat for the live chat/proactive chat. They have an app that shoots a text directly to my phone to help close out biz. You'd be surprised how many people will contact me from work and can't talk on the phone at that moment.

I use CallFire for the toll-free and then 8 local numbers.

The website currently has around 100-120 pages of content, all done by the provider I listed above. I will also be adding another 100-200 blog posts related to long tail keys over the next 3 months.

Content costs 0.025 a word. But it is done with the proper research, has relevant OBL's, and has gotten me on Wikipedia as a reference in my niche.


There was a website before me, but it wasn't on the current domain. It was http://brandname-state.com, I purchased https://brandname.com from an old lady in Canada, she actually gave it to me for free. The only links the site has currently are the old 301'd links from the original site, but all of it's content and the site itself are gone. It's link profile wasn't worth anything.
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Naw, you misunderstand. I think most of those providers probably do top notch work. Hell, even the much aligned Jest was (is?) one of the best SEOs to haunt these halls, he spawned so many copycat services off the angles he took.

The issue I was trying to point out is that you have too much shit going to properly manipulate the necessary variables.

How are you going to dial in your anchor % into the that tight zone that allows for consistent movement but not too much to get you bounced?

Or even more important, how are you controlling your anchor velocity when using (by my count) 7 different providers? What about LIA? Any plans there or just going to let it happen as it happens?

Ultimately, I fear that if you have to ask, your game plan probably lacks some components for success.

But it's your money and I commend you for putting it out there. Like I said before, you'll learn a lot.

Since you never answered my TR question the first time, are you referring to trusted seed sets and military grade seo?

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Kudos for that, probably the only thread on WF I'll remember to come check back on.

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Naw, you misunderstand. I think most of those providers probably do top notch work. Hell, even the much aligned Jest was (is?) one of the best SEOs to haunt these halls, he spawned so many copycat services off the angles he took.

The issue I was trying to point out is that you have too much shit going to properly manipulate the necessary variables.

How are you going to dial in your anchor % into the that tight zone that allows for consistent movement but not too much to get you bounced?

Or even more important, how are you controlling your anchor velocity when using (by my count) 7 different providers? What about LIA? Any plans there or just going to let it happen as it happens?

Ultimately, I fear that if you have to ask, your game plan probably lacks some components for success.

But it's your money and I commend you for putting it out there. Like I said before, you'll learn a lot.

Since you never answered my TR question the first time, are you referring to trusted seed sets and military grade seo?



Kudos for that, probably the only thread on WF I'll remember to come check back on.



I see you....

For TR I simply mean Trust Ratio. Or TF-CF Ratio, I'd like to get my Topical Trust over 50 with a solid 1.0 TR Ratio or better.

I'm keeping a close eye on Anchors and their %'s with these providers, also keep in mind I am not running the providers simultaneously. Right now Nanexo is in his second week and I'll post the results as soon as I get them.

Only around 10% of the anchor text will target exact keywords. The majority of which will come from the editorials and deadpool domains.

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I've found that one of biggest issues is second guessing myself, especially when reading topics on forums or posting them. So I am just going to trust that I have read up on enough material and that the success I've already had with other sites will carry me through this. Not to mention I'm going to heavily lean on the providers opinions and work very closely with them.

Ultimately my passion is building offline businesses and not doing internet marketing. I have no interest in building links myself or really doing any of the work myself, except for the web design simply because I can't find anyone that can do it as well. The point is I like to leave a lot of the direction this thing goes up to these providers while I just sort of sit back and monitor it, don't get me wrong I feel I know a pretty great deal about SEO and I study it quite a bit, I would just rather not do it myself and leave it up to people who I know are a lot better at it than I am.

This is why I have always followed say CCarters branding thread, or others pretty closely. I have had a lot of success with it and I don't have to change a whole lot from that path. So just keep in mind that these people I have hired have a huge input on where this project is going and what the outcome will be.
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Wait... You are spending 25 000$ on marketing and using Godaddy WP Hosting?
Their hosting is actually very very fast. It is on an SSD and it offers several proprietary Wordpress features which are pretty sweet. I got a lot of things through Godaddy, domains, SSL's, hosting. Don't sleep on them.
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Everything is being migrated and installed now so I will let you know what the new speed will be.
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I don't know how your experience was with Adam (Blue Steele), but I've used him on and off with clients for years and have always had a good experience.

Anyways, best of luck on your adventure and good move away from GD.
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Sounds pretty good. Some additional things I would do:

Build yourself a pbn using high quality domains. Don't go for Moz metrics (they are shit) and don't care much about PR (it hasn't been updated in a long time) Go for majestic stats and manual spam filtering for your domains

If you are spending 25k, then about 2k spent on a pbn would be a good investment. You can get about 40 high quality pbn sites for that with a bit of ongoing hosting costs. Remember that your own pbn provides laser targeted links if you set it that way.

Additionally, get someone to analyse the hell out of your competitors work and dig up opportunities, then acquire them.

A recent client I did got most of the results he wanted just from his pbn, and the remaining part was taken care of with some additional link buys, local directories and mixed links. I'd be happy to help, but maybe you can just look in the marketplace here.
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Ok guys here is an update for everyone.

So far link building has been ULTRA slow, haven't really started yet.

Nanexo has been doing great work so far and I am letting his links drip in naturally. Expecting a major report from him tonight.

Still haven't started the daily social media updates. Andrew says we should be starting any day now.

1 Major link did go through. The Wikipedia link I purchased was approved, they even removed my competitors links in the process because they were "spam". Not only that but they took an entire 2 paragraphs from my website and posted at the top of the page.

This Wikipedia link is for an exact keyword (one of my main ones) and the anchor on the page is also for the exact keyword.

Some might be skeptical as this is a no-follow link but check this out.

"Exact Match Keyword" Before ranked no where. Exactly 24 hours later...



So what have I been up to? Well I am now over 100 pages of content, with each page having 500-3000 words and I have changed hosts entirely.

Removed everything to do with Godaddy except the domain, went with wpengine.com, cloudflare business plan w/ railgun, and did some WP tweaks. Check this shit out, before it was loading anywhere between 6.5s - 9s



Anyways, every half day I check out my rankings and they keep going up, so I have been holding off a bit on building links. I will probably begin early next month...

Current rankings.



Will have some major updates soon!
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i think i've worked with you before.
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Tim - you are great to work with! Finally - someone who appreciates a great no-follow link :-)

Will be watching your thread closely

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Ok guys here is an update for everyone.

So far link building has been ULTRA slow, haven't really started yet.

Nanexo has been doing great work so far and I am letting his links drip in naturally. Expecting a major report from him tonight.

Still haven't started the daily social media updates. Andrew says we should be starting any day now.

1 Major link did go through. The Wikipedia link I purchased was approved, they even removed my competitors links in the process because they were "spam". Not only that but they took an entire 2 paragraphs from my website and posted at the top of the page.

This Wikipedia link is for an exact keyword (one of my main ones) and the anchor on the page is also for the exact keyword.

Some might be skeptical as this is a no-follow link but check this out.

"Exact Match Keyword" Before ranked no where. Exactly 24 hours later...



So what have I been up to? Well I am now over 100 pages of content, with each page having 500-3000 words and I have changed hosts entirely.

Removed everything to do with Godaddy except the domain, went with wpengine.com, cloudflare business plan w/ railgun, and did some WP tweaks. Check this shit out, before it was loading anywhere between 6.5s - 9s



Anyways, every half day I check out my rankings and they keep going up, so I have been holding off a bit on building links. I will probably begin early next month...

Current rankings.



Will have some major updates soon!
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So you get a lead (email, phone, etc?) and then do you qualify it/actually sign them up for whatever the service is? How far do you qualify them/warm them up?

Or have you done a deal with the end service provider and they pay you $xxx per lead? How did you find that person, how did you setup the deal with them?
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So you get a lead (email, phone, etc?) and then do you qualify it/actually sign them up for whatever the service is? How far do you qualify them/warm them up?

Or have you done a deal with the end service provider and they pay you $xxx per lead? How did you find that person, how did you setup the deal with them?
I will actually go to the persons house and watch "Game of Thrones" so that we form a "trusting bond". Then of course I take them for everything they have.
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So I've been primarily a lurker on these forums for the past 5 years and even though I only have 5 or so iTrader, I've spent around 50k through different providers over the years (Mostly in 2010 and 2011 before the major Google spam updates started rolling through every other month). Since then I have taken a step back and reevaluated how I was going to move forward with SEO in the future.

These days I have dropped all of my clients and now only invest in offline businesses that are willing to offer me a percentage of their company to handle their marketing (much more lucrative).

Anyways I figured since I have learned so much over the years from a (select few) WickedFire members that i would post my most recent project here and the service providers I'll be using.

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First thing is first. I always try and hit up the following two threads and make sure I stick as close as possible to what these two suggest.

CCarter - Brand thread (SERPwoo is the shit)
I follow pretty close to what he does here for the exception of completely avoiding Fiverr services. I use 48hourslogo.com for my logos, I always buy a premium theme from themeforest (and then heavily modify it), I don't use any UPS mailboxes or known virtual offices like Davinci & instead go with shared work spaces or little known virtual offices. (even though you can get a suite number from a UPS box, it is very easy to tell you have a UPS box from the street view), lastly, since I am marketing an offline business I only do 1-2k followers and likes on the social media sites. Everything else I pretty much follow to the T.

dzianis - I won't start link building until 6/1/15 after all of my local places and social media have all been finished or have all been running for a month or so but I like to read over this older thread a lot when I am planning my link-building and then scale it up. This guy really knows his shit. Blue Hat SEO Contest

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Content:

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- Thread here - This guy only had 35 posts, but he definitely delivered. His writers are 100% not Indian (lol) perfect grammar, with really well done niche and keyword research. Also a very quick TAT. Already purchased around 100k words and will probably be adding another 200k words of long tail blog posts over the next few months. (Use this guy!)______________

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I use two providers here, one to setup the profiles and keep the profiles fresh and another for shares. Both guys are fuckin awesome and over deliver every time.

Shares:

Diablo9975 and I purchase 270.00 package (Pack E, I think)

His Thread is Here
and he seems to always over deliver.

Brand Setup & Posting (Also Google Local):

Andrew Scherer - His thread here.

I know there are other providers on here who offer the same services or similar, but I have found that he has done the best work for me when it comes to local citations. (Side note: AdamSteele is an absolute fuck face who has scammed me out of 2400.00 in the past and since he is based out of Canada I didn't pursue any legal actions against him. DON'T USE HIM).

I'm buying the follow from Andrew for 8 separate locations (3 real - 5 Virtual Offices)

Bare Essentials (x8)
Content Kings (x8)
Underdogs (x8)
Big Bertha (x8)

This will start my social media and also secure my brand name across tons of social media sites. (Brand Name - City)

Google Local Business:

Hyper Local Citations - 40 (x8)
Big Citations (x8)
Rich Media Citations (x8)

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Link Building:

I have selected several people for this (One of which is banned on this forum)

1. This is the where the majority of my money will be going.
Second & Skohh - Stuff that works without Spam (I am really excited about this one.) Will begin around 6/1/15

2. Infographics - I bought 3 from Member8200
They do really good graphic design work (Poor English though - but no biggie) I plan on trying to get these out to several high end blogs and promoting them on Social Media (Hopefully they go Viral).

3. This guy has an absolute shit rep on this forum, but he has a lot of solid reviews on other forums and his new service is one of a kind so I decided to risk it. Hopefully he doesn't take my 3k and run lol) Nanexo!

4. Shakeitout - Thread here - Going to be purchasing 20 Topical Tropical posts.

5. Kingofthewiki - Thread here - Getting one Wikipedia link for an exact keyword.



I will be posting rankings as I go and as more things get started.

For now, just by following CCarters thread I am already ranking top 20 for most keywords with content alone and even have a few top 3's.

So far so good!

Software I'm using:
SERPWoo, Ahrefs, Moz, Majestic, SEMRush, SERPBook, and several others. If you want graphs just let me know.
An Update!

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So far Shakeitout, Nanexo, Member8200, & Kingofthewiki have been paid and they have each finished their work. I'm very happy with all of these providers. I fucking love my Wiki link (ranked top 30 for the keyword now) & the infographics are bad ass.

Google Local & Social Media

Andrew pulled through and did great work on both the Local Citations & the Social profiles. I bought a few of his ecosystem packs and they haven't started yet.

Content & On-site

Since my last update I've made the site even quicker by not by much, still steady at 500-600ms.

I have added tons of content and schema to the site. Over 20k more words and roughly 30 more pages. I just put in an order for another 47k words which will be another 28 pages of content (target city related).

Rankings

I've added over 200+ keywords tot he campaign and every morning I wake up I seem to have another 10-20 keywords in the top 10. The crazy part is the pages that are ranking only have updated schema, the content hasn't been added yet and I haven't even begun doing the big link building yet.



So far every provider has been killing it, I am starting with Second & Skohh this week and I should be getting back the rest of my content by Friday.

Averaging 4-10 calls a day currently and I have already gotten a few jobs. I don't see any issues getting number for the vast majority of these terms in a month or two.
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Your keywords look more like sentences or long phrases...
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Your keywords look more like sentences or long phrases...
They are local keywords.
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Hey guys, it has been a little while since I had an update, I've been pretty busy. Since my thread is about to hit the 3rd page I thought I'd give everyone an update.

So far everyone has come through for the most part.

I had a few issues with Andrew on the local stuff, some of his citations were from Russian and Chinese sites. Only a few, no big deal. I asked him to remove them and it was not a problem, he actually over delivered on everything else.

One thing to consider when hiring Andrew or anyone else for local, write several descriptions, give them tons of photos, logos, ect and ask for them to be added as well. I made the mistake of not doing that and I had to add them all manually afterwards,

Nanexo pulled through great, his work has given me a good solid link foundation for the top pages of my SILO.

I had an issue with Taylor who was doing my content, apparently there was a breakdown in communication and I got stuck paying for a bunch of articles I didn't need. Because I don't do business in that way (would have offered the other articles no problem) I made the jump over to Vin with WordAgents and let me say this, that guy is fucking awesome. I have a shit ton more content ready for him to do. Very happy with Vin

Everybody else did their jobs great and the 3 infographics I got from Member8200 are badass and will be forwarded to Second & Skohh this week, I had Alex from Hyper6 build some sweet Call to Action forms for my site (while he was on vacation) he is a good dude and probably the only guy I would let touch my sites design wise.

Second & Skohh begin the huge linkbuilding package this week and I am really excited for that.

Already have made over 8k revenue in the last month, which is 8k more than I expected until at least August.

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how big location-wise is your city? Population I mean. An estimate will do.
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how big location-wise is your city? Population I mean. An estimate will do.
Multiple cities, population is around 3-6mil.
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Multiple cities, population is around 3-6mil.
Miami-Fort Lauderdale area? Beautiful down there.

Anyways, keep up the good work!
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I had a few issues with Andrew on the local stuff, some of his citations were from Russian and Chinese sites. Only a few, no big deal. I asked him to remove them and it was not a problem, he actually over delivered on everything else.
It was 1 RU site and I do not know where it came from. It was not in any of the reports I sent and there was no verification e-mails in the e-mails set up for you. The other was 1 PR5 .com in Korean from the Social Foundations Big Bertha report I killed @ your request, also not a citation.

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You should have told me on Skype, I would have done that for you. This happens almost every week. I just handle it, no problem.

A lot of folks don't realize how much dollary-doos a local site can pull. Like ToddW didn't realize when he said the keywords look like long phrases. Well they are. And that's pretty much where the money is.
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It was 1 RU site and I do not know where it came from. It was not in any of the reports I sent and there was no verification e-mails in the e-mails set up for you. The other was 1 PR5 .com in Korean from the Social Foundations Big Bertha report I killed @ your request, also not a citation.



You should have told me on Skype, I would have done that for you. This happens almost every week. I just handle it, no problem.

A lot of folks don't realize how much dollary-doos a local site can pull. Like ToddW didn't realize when he said the keywords look like long phrases. Well they are. And that's pretty much where the money is.
Thanks, it wasn't a criticism, the few issues I had you took care of and the other one was my fault for not supplying anything. Your services are always pretty awesome. Look forward to using you again very soon.
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