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Old 03-13-2008, 11:13 PM   #1
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Interesting Eli is working for the White House!

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Seems to resolve just fine for me.
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the site has been undergoing a huge ddos attack since about 11pm last night. So i forwarded it to whitehouse.gov. I figure if they want to attack anyone they might as well attack a government website. I may be no good at hunting them down but the NSA shouldn't have too much trouble

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redirect it to the CIA site. Those fuckers can be scary. I'd sure think twice.
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OMG thats fucking brilliant! But wait...won't the feds think you're involved somehow?
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the site has been undergoing a huge ddos attack since about 11pm last night. So i forwarded it to whitehouse.gov. I figure if they want to attack anyone they might as well attack a government website. I may be no good at hunting them down but the NSA shouldn't have too much trouble
I don't know much about ddos attacks, but will that actually affect the whitehouse.gov site? I mean, they are attacking your site, so surely if you redirect your site to whitehouse.gov, the ddos attack wont also be redirected to that site?
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I don't know much about ddos attacks, but will that actually affect the whitehouse.gov site? I mean, they are attacking your site, so surely if you redirect your site to whitehouse.gov, the ddos attack wont also be redirected to that site?
Not unless the actual DNS server points back to the whitehouse.gov IP.
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Not unless the actual DNS server points back to the whitehouse.gov IP.
I'm sure if Eli updated the DNS that would put him in as much trouble as the guy responsible for the ddos attack.
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I'm sure if Eli updated the DNS that would put him in as much trouble as the guy responsible for the ddos attack.
I didn't have to. I just did a domain forward. I first tested it by forwarding it to another site to see if the attack would follow. It did so now I have it forwarded to the whitehouse.gov.

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My website www.bluehatseo.com is being maliciously attacked by a hacker or organization of hackers using a large botnet (most likely virus based) to administer a Denial of Service Attack on my server. Attached is my server logfile for the day. If you need any realtime evidence I forwarded the domain to Welcome to the White House. Enclosed is the list of the top 15 perpetrating IPS and their Internet service providers along with the personal contact information of each provided by the Internet providers' abuse departments.
Whether or not I get in trouble remains to be seen
If I do get in trouble I'm really not that worried about it. I don't know all the legalities behind but forwarding a legitimate domain even though its being attacked doesn't seem reasonable cause for allegations to an offense. Either way the choices seem all but fair. I can pay more money and upgrade the bluehat server which only hosts the one site and is all in all pretty worthless. I can move it to another more powerful server which would give the ddos attacker a run for his/her money. Or pay more money to make the site more ddos secure. Or i can just redirect the attack, relax a day or two and when their door gets busted in by the feds I can get my site back.
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Well, I originally suggested to Eli to change the DNS to point to the IP address of the server where whitehouse.gov was hosted. That way, there's no referrer and it's pretty transparent.
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the site has been undergoing a huge ddos attack since about 11pm last night. So i forwarded it to whitehouse.gov. I figure if they want to attack anyone they might as well attack a government website. I may be no good at hunting them down but the NSA shouldn't have too much trouble
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Nice idea on the redirect and the email.

also nice selection of title for the thread.
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WTF is a domain forward?

I'm pretty sure that isn't a type of dns record, unless you're referring to an A or CNAME record.
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too bad you can't forward it back at the attackers, making them ddos the botnet, and take it out of service.
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The attack is still going full force but i got bored having fun with it so I put the site up on a real server. I'll get all the cisco protection moved over today to knock the attack down, but at the moment its not really making a difference. He's going to have to bring a hell of a lot more to the game to touch this server. Although i'll admit 1% cpu load is definitely the highest i've ever seen, so (s)he is pulling off a very good attack.

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Eli, You're retarded. If you get into trouble over this you deserve everything you got coming. You're basically using there power to attack whitehouse.gov and you admit it on this thread. Do yourself a favor and delete this thing.
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Eli, You're retarded. If you get into trouble over this you deserve everything you got coming. You're basically using there power to attack whitehouse.gov and you admit it on this thread. Do yourself a favor and delete this thing.
called my lawyer about it actually. I'm fine, even if i get charged for something it won't stick. Just like the people in the botnet with the viruses installed on their computers won't be held responsible (technically they are the ones doing the attack). I can forward my domain as I wish. It's the people who made the virus, distributed the virus, and used the virus to initiate the attack that are breaking federal cybercrimes law.
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depending on the type of DDOS attack, your http redirect may not even pass the DDOS traffic to whitehouse.gov.

Most severe DDOS attacks are either UDP floods or TCP SYN floods to your IP. If you redirect your website with mod_rewrite or whatever, the traffic is still hitting your IP.
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just in case you are wondering, we did not randomly choose you. you have stepped on too many different people's toes, and are disclosing too much information about captchas... information which you obtained, but it was not meant to be public. you are giving out too much sensitive info, so step it down a notch.

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just in case you are wondering, we did not randomly choose you. you have stepped on too many different people's toes, and are disclosing too much information about captchas... information which you obtained, but it was not meant to be public. you are giving out too much sensitive info, so step it down a notch.

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lol the beef is about captchas? I was defeating captchas before you even knew how to program. Take your beef elsewhere. Or don't, I'll find you either way.
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Please don't abuse the boobs icon. kthxbye.
lol yeah thats just low. differences aside no one should abuse the boobs. I'm going to totally neg rep yo ass.
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called my lawyer about it actually. I'm fine, even if i get charged for something it won't stick. Just like the people in the botnet with the viruses installed on their computers won't be held responsible (technically they are the ones doing the attack). I can forward my domain as I wish. It's the people who made the virus, distributed the virus, and used the virus to initiate the attack that are breaking federal cybercrimes law.
1 of 2 things.

1. Stop Lying.

Or

2. Fire your lawyer.
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1 of 2 things.

1. Stop Lying.

Or

2. Fire your lawyer.
I don't think you've agreed to a single post on this forum. Quit being so negative all the damn time. Nothing is such a big deal that you should be worrying more about something than the person its affecting
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Dude you've had a hardon for Eli this whole thread. Do you have proof that he'll get in trouble for forwarding the domain? It's real easy to make vague comments like the one you just did.
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I'll get all the cisco protection moved over today to knock the attack down, but at the moment its not really making a difference.
it doesn't look like cisco is helping you out much there

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I'll find you either way.
i wish you the best of luck in finding me

p.s. it's not just about the captchas, but you know that
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it doesn't look like cisco is helping you out much there



i wish you the best of luck in finding me

p.s. it's not just about the captchas, but you know that
the cisco protection is being installed right now along with a few other securities. Get back in the chat and use the Orly owl icon its way better.
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...information which you obtained, but it was not meant to be public...you are giving out too much sensitive info, so step it down a notch.
WTF are you trying to prove? You're upset about re-posted captcha information? It was a guest post, and the authors site is still up and running, so why don't you go fuck yourself.

Nobody cares about you or your stupid ddos attack, so while your busy masturbating tonight before you go to bed, try to keep this image out of your head.

And what's up with posting eli's picture?


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US Section Code 1030.

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(A) (i) knowingly causes the transmission of a program, information, code, or command, and as a result of such conduct, intentionally causes damage without authorization, to a protected computer;
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redirecting to a government site is either brilliantly smart or really stupid... depending on the outcome...

personally I wouldn't want to risk a knock and talk with the feds or DHS...

good luck getting it sorted...
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called my lawyer about it actually. I'm fine, even if i get charged for something it won't stick. Just like the people in the botnet with the viruses installed on their computers won't be held responsible (technically they are the ones doing the attack). I can forward my domain as I wish. It's the people who made the virus, distributed the virus, and used the virus to initiate the attack that are breaking federal cybercrimes law.
The only difference with those people and you're situation is that they are not aware of it, and you're knowingly with intend causing a situation that affects the Whitehouse in a negative way.

Essentially collaborating with the people behind it and willfully taking part in this illegal action.

Hopefully you're not putting yourself in a difficult situation here, because you really need to look for another lawyer.

1: If you've forwarded your domain before the attack and you didn't know about the attack when police is knocking on your door, then you're in the same situation as the people that you mention that are unknowingly part of a botnet.

2: If you forward your domain knowing (Your have admitted openly that you're aware of the attack and did the forward intentionally) that the domain is under an attack and it will deflect the attack to the Whitehouse website, then you're part of the group of the attackers and no longer an innocent party.

See the difference?

You're responsible for your own actions!

Example: You're actions could if directed to a regular small business website cause financial damage, let alone it's reputation as the site is constantly off-line, causing additional expenses as well.

You would be the one responsible for the downtime of the small business website, not the people behind the botnet attack, because you assisted and are solely responsible for the attack to be directed to the small business website.

Once again, you're responsible for your own actions.

Luckily the Whitehouse website is very well protected from these type of attacks, but they have you on their radar and you will probably have a lot of explaining to do.
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I think that eli may have stolen this guys girlfriend........or had sex with his mother and sister....its a tough call
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Checkthisout Everyone might want to check this out.

I found this while googling what was on darkseoprogramming.com's website.

Apparently the conversation that took place before the attack, and plans the attach on bluehatseo.com.

general pastebin - Someone - post number 943272

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If they were really trying to hurt Eli, why not go after his money makers? BlueHatSeo.com doesn't really make him any money. Seems fishy to me...

And that picture has been posted on Wickedfire before, so nothing new.
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i see that he has forwarded his domain to whitehouse.gov once again. the ddos that is currently running, does not go to the new IP(s) if he changes the dns. we've learned from our last mistake. no harm was intended for the whitehouse.gov website. now it has the ability to stay within one IP such as 66.66.66.66, or stay within a range of IPs such as 66.66.66.0/24. i am curious as to what happened with all the cisco protection that eli was talking about. the ddos can be stopped within minutes with a decent anti-ddos router/firewall. as for Unarmed Gunman's comment, the reason why robstool.com isn't being targeted is because that's not where he outed other people's methods. we do not care about hurting his business, we just want to make a point that outing other people's work/methods is not respectable. if somebody tells you some information that they want to be private, and you go and make it public... that kind of pisses those people off. anyway, we will stop the ddos in about a week or so (unless he gets some good anti-ddos protection before then). hopefully he has learned his lesson and will not out other people's work/methods in the future if they are meant to be private.
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