zingo

Make all new providers post in a set category until they become eligible to post in the Vet area.

The BST in the links area is like a fucking slot machine very hard to keep up with all the bullshit newbs posts, and the review beggers, and the self promoting thread bumpers, scammer etc etc etc... I could keep adding to this list. It is basically turning into a cesspool.

Also 1 moderator for that area is not enough a few more would help the problem big time.

I spend a LOT of time there and do a lot of transactions, this shit needs to get fixed, and it would not take much.

belikethat

if they are taking any new mods entry - haven't seen most of them online for a while now. A few are active and posting.

Stanley

Who would you recommend for moderator?

LegitAM

i wouldn't mind patrolling BST and watching for spam... just stepping up if anyone needs to

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erect the impaler ... why excessive bumping is bad for your sales

From the participation in these 2 threads, if I were going to choose a mod it would be...

jryan21 - he gets straight to the point and has a good eye.
phrench - he also has a good eye and does not hesitate to call bullshit.
zingo - hate to self promote but yes I could do a good job - I spend at least 3 hours/day here.

I believe 3 would be a good number if we are all active.

faceblogger

I recommend zingo. If there are no issues on appointing a new Mod, Please Make zingo a Mod (If you are appointing someone additionally you may choose from the other two names suggested by zingo, they also have a good eye). He will take proper action against the scammers and the thread rule violators.

Also, why don't you make BST a paid section? That will keep the place free from scammers and any low quality products and services. Personally I will gladly pay a $25 (Even as monthly subscription) for a thread. Or may be we can have a paid section additionally!!!

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JamesHenry

I would recommend zingo to do mod for time equity on patrol served.

Who else? Anybody that has been righting decent reviews and spending time in a section buying and selling. Let 2 or 3 people do the sifting through the threads and post. Let them hand out some scolding, 1 day, 3 day, week banning to cut a lot of the nonsense out.

It sure would be nice to have a slow down on people taking reviews then writing bull.

A yes vote for the new section idea.
It would be reassuring if their work was reviewed in their thread when they start it and before release into the general BST section. By someone who would write some facts and description about the service.

It seems harder to buy services or buy with out getting taken in some way.

jr_sci

It's hard for both the buyers and the sellers now-a-days in the BTS section when scammers mark their entry. We need to open a new arena/section for the newbie sellers and when they qualify with their Itraders, posts, etc., they can be moved to the general BTS section.

Zingo has been going great with this issue and has been quite active. I really appreciate your afford Zingo. You have not only helped buyers but have also helped a lot of sellers from those thread bumpers. I will take a active look at this thread and will keep an eye on new replies..........

I really hope to see some good initiative from the WF Staff....

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+1 for Zingo. He's selflessly donated a lot of time already to cleaning up the S/B/T Links section. And considering his devotion to the project, I'm sure the other two possibilities he recommends are good choices as well.

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Lord B

There is another problem with policing the BST section - the crybabies. Seriously they are just annoying and fight over petty disputes -- and if I show you the kind of PMs I get from service providers here you will feel like killing yourself.

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compujoe

I too would also reccomend Zingo as mod and i myself wouldnt mind either i am constantly watching the threads and i pretty much live on this forum. Like Zingo i am sick of the bs in this forum i think he would help clean up the trash as would i and we could use more moderators big time. Somthing needs to be done and fast . I am on this forum almost 10 hours a day and always calling the bs out. Problem is there shouldnt be any bs to call out thus why another mod would be a good idea.

+1 for Zingo
and yes im voting myself +1

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compujoe

And having a seperate section for newbies would be a great idea and if we did that we wouldnt need to have a paid section because they would be in thier own until worthy.

That would filter out the roaches

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jschmidli

^^This.. I could not have said it any better myself.
+1 for Zingo

As a seller, I do not call out other services but I do see a lot of garbage being dumped in the BST. I am in favor of the newbie BST area. The only issue would be, what is the threshold to move from the newbie area to the big boys area? That needs some serious thought.

It needs to be a system that cannot be gamed such as post count. At the present a minimum iTrader would be the best stat to measure. However, that could be gamed as well by just buying a bunch of cheap services to build up your iTrader as a buyer. (Like the old ebay feedback could be gamed by buying $0.99 ebooks just for a positve feedback).

What would work better is if the iTrader counted toward measurement only if the user was the seller. But still any system will have faults. This could be overcome by a scammer by simply creating multi accounts and bumping the iTrader from the extra accounts. No system will be perfect but it will definitley be better than the free for all that is going on now.

Thoughts?? Ideas?? Comments??

mreed

I recommend Zingo as well. He spends more time buying services on WF than just about anyone.

I think its a great idea to have a reputable services section and a noob services section.

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onthewayup

If I was 5 people, which i feel like I am sometimes, i would do +5 for zingo. He's always on the lookout, and is serious about keeping the BST section clean.

Seriously, make it legit and give him the damn moderator badge. He's already been doing it, on his own time!

sapphirescales

Zingo and dchuck know their shit when it comes to services offered in the BST section. I don't know if dchuck would be up to it or not, but Zingo has already voiced his desire to participate. I myself would be fully capable, but I don't have time or the patience to deal with the dumbass service providers and BS that goes on there. Frankly I'm here to buy shit, not babysit. :P

onkelmicha

Well first off all the mod question isnt really that hard Zingo has been investing so much time with no real "powers" so far and It would just make the process so much smoother if he gained some authority and real power to dropkick some suckers straight away instead off just reporting them.

Then bigger questions, yeah I would def think that the BST could have newbie section with the one post wonders hosting some new stuff. The process off making somebody a "solid" service provider could be as "horrible" as just letting it be up to a mods judgment to grant them the honor(we do choose mods like Zingo because we do trust in his judgment, at least I do).

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airforcematt

As a service provider myself I keep out of others threads but it's really tough sometimes to keep my mouth shut when I see some of the crap that's floating through here these days.

Give zingo mod powers in the B/S/T, dude is already doing the work. Giving him the banhammer would improve this place overnight.

I do like the idea of having a newbie sellers forum.

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Defo agree with this

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dchuk
zingo

for Mods for the BST section

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Enigmabomb

If you vote for yourself, it should be a +rep followed by a weeks ban. + rep for being a shameless marketer, week ban for not getting the point.

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blog8491

Zingo can handle that task. Nowadays we see many thread bumpers. Please maintain WF quality.

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belikethat

+1 For ZINGO OF COURSE and please look into this issue as well: Pricate Messaging is really slow -- Can the time be increased?

Cotillion

+1 for Zingo as a BST mod. The guy can do it.

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phrench

Thanks for the mention. Since I spend 75% of my time on WF in the BST section I'd be more than happy to help to weed out the shit.

Unfortunately thread bumpers and crappy providers are taking over this section as of late and it gets kinda odd to report a bad provider 3 times before a mod finally takes action

Another vote for jryan21 and zingo!

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noahwells

I can think of anyone more vigilant than Zingo: +1 Zingo for Mod in BST!

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cziffra

I'd love to see something like this. I've started outsourcing a lot of my link building recently. To make this easier and help me stay organized, I created a spreadsheet to take notes on different services I want to try. I've went probably 10 or more pages deep in the BST section while doing this research and still managed to miss some good services. It seems like some of the better providers don't have to bump their threads because they have enough repeat business from old customers, which means those threads are often buried multiple pages deep. This means people like me who are new to buying here are more likely to miss some of the established, quality providers.

Also, I support the idea of having zingo moderate.

JamesHenry

Sorta like most teenagers.
They don't want to contribute any time to anything but what they want to do.
Then bitch, cry, be miserable and pout when they don't get their way.

But if they do not get some wake up call they just become a bigger bitch.

Please address people asking for reviews and posting typical spam comments. Give the service providers a way to have decent reviews done on their service.

If there were a flurry of 2 and 3 day banning done a lot of bullshit would slow down. If they don't fuck up then they don't have to cry. But now there is just to much bullshit and thievery going on.

seanlopez

+Zingo , the only man who really deserve to be new mod if management like to oppoint new ones

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Lord B

Yeah but that begets another problem -- those bans for not reviewing in time or reviewing properly are a very subjective matter. They take time to analyze and all the staff here is volunteer with a business to run.

Fuck even the service providers are not paying anything to WickedFire - it is all free, no posting fee or no revshare. On sites like flippa or 99design where they charge on every transaction, they can have staff who can spend time. But here it becomes a matter of giving priority to your own business or to a cause of greater good of community. You only have so many hours in a day.

And even if we start charging for transactions here, I am not sure that whatever revenue that makes is worth the time for Stan or Jon.

Okay babbling over and I am back to work.

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I do appreciate the fact that people have businesses to run and this time of year they should be making the most jingle, probably with the least amount of time to be here on patrol of the entire year.

But,

If someone asks for a review

just doesn't post back why they do not leave review,
takes over 72 hours to post review(should stop asking for reviews-or told to stop asking),

Reviewing properly is subjective. I am not looking to over complicate anyone's life. Now bringing up business, you got to wonder about some of the people who ask for a review in 5 to 10 sometimes more threads a week if they have any other business besides asking for reviews.

I see onkelmicha or sapphirescales asking-giving a review, man it is an easy purchase decision depending on their review to buy or not.

On the other side I see people with 20 itrades plus asking for a review ( crap not them again) in almost every link building thread and then leaving haphazard reviews, spam comment reviews. I suppose better than nothing. I still wait for other reviewers, maybe make a post and subscribe to the thread so I see how it develops.

sometime their crap review is better than than the other choice a op has which is a review by someone here for 30 days or less with 1 itrade or 0.

Let a few people mentioned get temp banning authority. Themselves temp in the job (everyone gets burnout or has to much to handle in their business occasionally) until some of this bull is at a lower level.

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jamesvick

Dont remember the last time I screwed with a ban-hammer (hope you don't mind)

Seriously though, zingo would help a lot in cleaning the BST section. And service providers need a certain distinguishing factor (newbies Vs. Old). So another +1 from me.

Also please give this a thought, all service threads are created in newbie section. It shouldn't be that if i create a successful xrumer thread, the next time I create a different thread it automatically comes under legit providers. All should start from scratch to make it fair.

Stanley

Zingo is now a mod.

onthewayup

Damn right Zingo! Congratz!

zingo

Very cool! Thanks to everyone for all your support.

Taking the family on a skiing trip for a week to Vail leaving tomorrow early.

Will be taking the laptop, will squeeze in some time to round up the roaches in the SBT

Again Thanks!

faceblogger

wow!!! Zingo Congratz!

It's a very very happy news for everyone who wanted a clean BTS

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backlinkers

congratz zingo

seofactory

Congratulation Zingo. I am very happy from this decision, Zingo truly deserve to be a MOD of BST because he is spending his lot of precious time in BST. Also congratulate Jon, Stanley and other authorities for such an awesome decision. Best wishes for zingo and hopefully he will carry out his mission with same determination and honesty.

Spammers get lost from here, Zingo have taken the charge.

P.S: Enjoy your skiing trip.

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jamesvick

That's the way aha aha --- I like it : YUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

blog8491

Congratulation Zingo! Now you have the responsibility to clean BST. Hope you are doing it well

Thanks
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freelancer81

Great!!! Congratulation

masterjani

Zingo Congratz! happy with stanley decision

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jr_sci

Good to see you as a moderator, Zingo. It has marked a sense of relieve on my face as you won't leave any roaches alive now. Cheers..!!

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Congrats, and well deserved imo.

Lalit_Burma

Hello

Certainly WF should now be paid forums so that we can maintain the quality from a regular service provider to new bie.

I checked WF before few days ago as thanks money (to send money of my part, because I am earning from here and hence this is my responsibility to give back to this awesome forum) but did not find any link for that.

Regards ...
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RBseatown

I'm all for a new provider section. My only question is when do they make the move from new provider, to trusted provider? The best way, in my opinion would be some sort of application which is reviewed by a mod, who then moves the thread. Or maybe a certain a amount of time the thread has been active without any major problems reported.

Another potential problem could be a lack of people willing to work with new providers (which is really how it should be anyway), with all of the already proven providers consolidated to their one section. I guess it should be up to them to give people incentive to work with them, but I could definitely see a lot of legit services having a hard time getting off of the ground if they are buried deeper in the forum.

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mblaster

Being new to the forum and a new provider (without a sales post yet.... ) I'm all in for newbie provider section.

I don't mind charging a bit less for a start just to gain any sort of reputation.

Main reason why I'm after this section is, it's not easy for new supplier to get his own thread (in standard BST) anyway, so again, section like that one will give more chances for new non tested supplier to start his venture, while will allow WF members to test new services/products and probably get better prices, so less risk involved.

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