A private forum will solve all problems!

[vizilla]

Ever heard of the 1% idea? It governs social sites like Digg:

It's an emerging rule of thumb that suggests that if you get a group of 100 people online then one will create content, 10 will "interact" with it (commenting or offering improvements) and the other 89 will just view it.

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...959,00.htmlThe same rule governs forums. The numbers at WF is even worse because no one wants to invite competition - ever notice how its always the same half dozen members that post money making stuff? I'll be the first to admit I'm in the 10% part (probably on the less contributing end).

There's a ton of webmaster forums out there right now. They're all essentially the same and they exchange times when they rule the roost. Right now it's WF carrying the banton, but a few years ago it was SP. Anyone remember GeekVillage?

I used to post a lot of sensitive stuff on a forum (humorweb, now closed) awhile back, including my exact earnings and my strategy. The community was simply amazing. I think what got me to contribute was the culture. I know a lot of ex-members are on other forums now and we are all free riders. Not because we are jerks or anything but

What could set WF apart would be a private forum. Every would have to apply with a long introduction post. If you keep all your cards close to yourself, ya can't join. Hell, the forum could have performance reviews like General Electric - every month or so the forum would prune the 10% least contributing members. And maybe even cap the membership...

[Lord B]

Originally Posted by vizilla

Ever heard of the 1% idea? It governs social sites like Digg:

It's an emerging rule of thumb that suggests that if you get a group of 100 people online then one will create content, 10 will "interact" with it (commenting or offering improvements) and the other 89 will just view it.

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...959,00.htmlThe same rule governs forums. The numbers at WF is even worse because no one wants to invite competition - ever notice how its always the same half dozen members that post money making stuff? I'll be the first to admit I'm in the 10% part (probably on the less contributing end).

There's a ton of webmaster forums out there right now. They're all essentially the same and they exchange times when they rule the roost. Right now it's WF carrying the banton, but a few years ago it was SP. Anyone remember GeekVillage?

I used to post a lot of sensitive stuff on a forum (humorweb, now closed) awhile back, including my exact earnings and my strategy. The community was simply amazing. I think what got me to contribute was the culture. I know a lot of ex-members are on other forums now and we are all free riders. Not because we are jerks or anything but

What could set WF apart would be a private forum. Every would have to apply with a long introduction post. If you keep all your cards close to yourself, ya can't join. Hell, the forum could have performance reviews like General Electric - every month or so the forum would prune the 10% least contributing members. And maybe even cap the membership...

There is a special invitation only section I guess.

[vizilla]

There is? LOL guess I'm not special enough.

If there is one, it should be promoted more heavily so more people can aspire to join it (such as myself!). And instructions should be written for those hoping to join.

[LazyHippy]

Originally Posted by vizilla

Ever heard of the 1% idea? It governs social sites like Digg:

It's an emerging rule of thumb that suggests that if you get a group of 100 people online then one will create content, 10 will "interact" with it (commenting or offering improvements) and the other 89 will just view it.

What is the 1% rule? | Technology | Guardian Unlimited Technology

Interesting, and makes sense - 100 times more consumers than creators.

The bit you've quoted doesn't explain it that well though, at first I thought they were referring to the percentage of people that interact and got the maths wrong! (Edit ya link btw mate.. )

[LazyHippy]

I disagree about the private forum bit though - one of the great things about WF is that is comes up in the serps for stuff and so helps people without them having to be members or even have heard of WickedFire. Going private is too elitist.

[vizilla]

You're right, it is elitist. But there have been numerous posts by current members on how crappy these new noobs are. The industry is also set up this way, everyone knows that the "super affiliates" make the lion share of the earnings. And why would would anyone want to post something sensitive in a forum when he knows there are hundreds of lurkers looking to steal ideas without contributing anything? Going private doesn't mean we can't help noobs anymore.

[Blastyourass]

No one is ever going to post the most sensitive helpful information unless they have already exploited that market and are out of it. Unless your doing some serious black hat stuff or it's needed for a private venture then I don't see it working.

I'll give out tips but not the secret spy shit that you speak of and I'm sure that most of the real guys feel the same. I would be more afraid of sharing shit with serious affiliates then noob's because I know they do what they say as opposed to just talking about it.

[LazyHippy]

Originally Posted by Blastyourass

I would be more afraid of sharing shit with serious affiliates then noob's because I know they do what they say as opposed to just talking about it.

Great point.

If you want a private forum, get on the waiting list for SQUIRT. Pay $100 a month for ya private forum and get free tools and databases too!

[eggbert]

No one is gonna give you a blueprint for making money online even in a private forum. You will have to bust your ass like everyone else to learn what works and what doesn't.

[switchjohnny]

Maybe some of you remember back in the BBS days using modems to be leet. haha. Anyway, I remember having to take crappy little tests to get into some BBS's that had good info. They'd make you take an acronym test or something

ACiD = ASCII Creators in Demand.

Back when you would go buy the new 2600 mag and make a beige box.

Ahh I'm old.

[kyleirwin]

already tried it, didn't work. the place is a ghosttown.

at the end of the day, nobody is going to give away their $10k/day money makers.

[Ferraristi]

I think it is unhelpful to those of us that don't feel worthy to contribute. It's so obvious that a lot of you guys make a good living at this and that is all I want to do, but at the end of the day it is also quite obvious that you all know a hell of a lot more than me too.

I have been trying for a long time to get good at this and I fully intend to do so, but also I feel that I have nothing to contribute because of fear of being ridiculed or because it has all been said before.

Also, I think if you create a members only area that 90% of us won't have access to, you run the risk of killing the main area because everyone will think that all the good stuff goes on inside an area of the forum that they don't have access to and will therefore not bother reading what's out here with the rest of us.

[Jon]

People must be blind here..

We have a private paid area actually for $55.00/mo. It's the first of a bunch more planned. Just testing the waters to see what it does, what kind of feedback it gets, the usefullness, etc.

The only real rule inside it is that every user must contribute something of value at least once a month. The idea behind it is that we don't expect people to share $50k/mo ideas, but for other ideas that are quick, creative, and maybe a bit gray/black hat, those are more of what you'll find.

Right now, there aren't too many posts, but, the feedback so far is that if people would read the threads, they'd see that the value is there. The ideas posted so far have been hidden from the general population for the reason that those using it DON'T want it whored out, and they are also the types that don't mind more competition in areas that don't really have much anyway. Not to mention forging new contacts/partnerships and getting to know the darker and bigger guys is worth the price all on it's own.

Whatever though, we haven't even advertised/announced or pushed it yet. When we do however, I'll bet anyone who sees it will be very judgemental of it until they read a few of the threads and the ideas posted. THEN I guarantee their minds will be changed instantly, and they may even bash it on the open forums so more people don't join it heh.

[MyOwnDemon]

Okay, let's clear the air.

The private invite only section has some top-notch quality info (one thread in particular is fucking amazing and highly profitable if followed correctly), and therefore, I can see why Jon doesn't want to let everyone in.

Granted, in that private section, there aren't many threads, but there is a very logical reason for that. Every single person in that private section is very talented, open about sharing ideas, and goes right for the kill - thus, there is no bullshit in that section. Cut away all the bullshit, all the noob interference, all the "what does that mean?" shit... and you're left with only top notch stuff straight from the pros. Makes sense, right? Hell yeah it makes sense, AND it makes money.

That being said, if you're serious enough and keep posting quality threads, and let it be known that you're a talented member willing to share ideas and network... I'm sure Jon will get around to inviting you in.

So, start posting some quality threads and I'll see you fuckers on the other side.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by MyOwnDemon

Okay, let's clear the air.

The private invite only section has some top-notch quality info (one thread in particular is fucking amazing and highly profitable if followed correctly), and therefore, I can see why Jon doesn't want to let everyone in.

Granted, in that private section, there aren't many threads, but there is a very logical reason for that. Every single person in that private section is very talented, open about sharing ideas, and goes right for the kill - thus, there is no bullshit in that section. Cut away all the bullshit, all the noob interference, all the "what does that mean?" shit... and you're left with only top notch stuff straight from the pros. Makes sense, right? Hell yeah it makes sense, AND it makes money.

That being said, if you're serious enough and keep posting quality threads, and let it be known that you're a talented member willing to share ideas and network... I'm sure Jon will get around to inviting you in.

So, start posting some quality threads and I'll see you fuckers on the other side.

Hell yeah!

Now let's get back to making money!

[angelo]

i actaually like the concept of this private forum thingy. awesomenessss.