Fact or Myth: Xrumer Links Pointed to your site - Case Study

onthewayup

onthewayup

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I'm tired of people stating that pointing xrumer links directly to your site is a bad idea. I say that in moderation, (20k links or less) to your site will i not sandbox/deindex your site period. It would be too easy to get rid of your competition.

So to test, I have a 1 month old business card site. I'm going to send 20k profile links to the main page, to one kw. Once and for all, we will break this myth.

Here's what I will be doing:

I'll be using AirForceMatt's xrumer links.
I will point 20k xrumer profile links to my page and see what happens.
The keyword will be business card printing only.
I will measure the results over a 2 week period using SESCOUT

Current position: 166

Now, let's put this shit to rest and see what happens. Keep in mind that the site is brand new, the domain is only registered for one year, and hosting is on a shared server - no dedicated IP address.

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i think its a bit flawed... 20k at once is gonna be interesting but i would like to see 20k over say 20 days as well.
 
you mean 20k per day for 20 days? If you put up the money, i have no problem with doing it - though it would be repetitive links.

The whole point to this is if IN MODERATION do xrumer links have an effect on your site. I'm going to let google pick up the links naturally, as thats what everyone seems to do with xrumer links.

And I think it would be stupid to do 400k xrumer links to your site - the average user does 5k - 20k links at one time, unless pointing to secondary pages.
 
nah, i mean 1k a day over 20 days, which is 20k.. i think that would look more natural then 20k at once with Matt.

either way, it will be interesting
 
onthewayup said:
And I think it would be stupid to do 400k xrumer links to your site - the average user does 5k - 20k links at one time, unless pointing to secondary pages.
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Stupid because it wouldn't work, or stupid because it would make for a bad case study since so few people do this?
 
eliquid said:
nah, i mean 1k a day over 20 days, which is 20k.. i think that would look more natural then 20k at once with Matt.

either way, it will be interesting
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Ah, I don't want it to look natural, that's the thing. I want to see if 20k will in fact hurt the site or not.
 
Rexibit said:
Will you be pinging/RSS feed the links to assure they get crawled? If you don't, you won't know if Google ever even looks at 10% of those 20k links.
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Depending on what exactly he meant by the following, I don't think he will
onthewayup said:
I'm going to let google pick up the links naturally, as thats what everyone seems to do with xrumer links.
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When I was testing the only site i've ever got sandboxed i hit with 60k scrapebox links a day for 2 weeks straight and only used 3 keywords. I was #1 for about a week and a half then dropped...however, I'm about 2.5 weeks out and am finally out of the sandbox and climbing back up.
 
Placed the order for the 20k through Matt. Matter of fact, i'll drop the links into linklicious.me (basic version) so that they'll ping them. This will just prove the face even more that having xrumer links pointing to your site - and helping google find them - does not harm your site.
 
aaronklaw said:
When I was testing the only site i've ever got sandboxed i hit with 60k scrapebox links a day for 2 weeks straight and only used 3 keywords. I was #1 for about a week and a half then dropped...however, I'm about 2.5 weeks out and am finally out of the sandbox and climbing back up.
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Exactly. Building that many links in a short amount of time will sandbox your site AT SOME POINT, but not sending xrumer blasts like Tiger_UK did.

Btw, if you don't know what i'm talking about, visit the HOTH's thread where the OP tried to put the blame on the client that the xrumer profile links caused his site to be sandboxed, and not his package. :jester:
 
eliquid said:
I've heard nothing but bad things about Hoth causing people to get deindexed and sandboxed.
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Hence this case study. Now, I'm not saying i'm a seo expert, but bullshit is bullshit. Xrumer links directly to your site does not sandbox your site, nor does it deindex your site. Duplicate content - and a good amount of it such as 5HOTHs - does.

Now, with this test, we can finally call bullshit to the myth that pointing xrumer profile links to your site will cause some type of harm** to your site.

** Harm to your site meaning a Deep decrease in rankings, or deindexing.
 
need more detail:

is it a new site? age of domain? any link point to it already? was it indexed with google before xrumer?
 
New site -
age of domain - 1 month -
link point to it already - no xrumer, web 2.0 properties and social bookmarking only right now
was it indexed in google before - yes.
 
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