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Fact or Myth: Xrumer Links Pointed to your site - Case Study
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This could be a relatively straightforward (and informative) thread if people would shut the fuck up. There's 2 pages of junk out of 2.5 pages.
To OP - confirms much of what experienced XR users already know, but good to see it put out in a case-study manner. Glad 80% of people who buy it don't know how to use it, or the world would be a worse place.
To OP - confirms much of what experienced XR users already know, but good to see it put out in a case-study manner. Glad 80% of people who buy it don't know how to use it, or the world would be a worse place.
I hit a 1 day old site with over 3 million links within a week one time. The fucker got sandboxed for about 9 months but now it ranks #2 on page 1 in Google (EXTREMELY competitive niche). I should point out that the site ranked well in Bing and Yahoo throughout the sandbox period with Google so it was still bringing in a decent amount of income. Though it seemed to jump from #3 to around #850 for a few months in Bing and Yahoo. The fact of the matter is, links will NOT hurt your site. They'll definitely sandbox it, but they won't hurt it. Now if you're buying links and you get a manual review you might be in for some trouble, but Xrumer/ScrapeBox can't really hurt your site. Though you should try to hit only unmoderated autoapprove blogs with ScrapeBox to avoid problems with Akismet.
Site is #64 today.
Sapphirescales - that's a lot of links within one week! Were they all xrumer links or a mixture of scrapebox and xrumer?
Sapphirescales - that's a lot of links within one week! Were they all xrumer links or a mixture of scrapebox and xrumer?
Holy SHIT! Now that is what I call a heavy duty case study!! Now you've got me intrigued..
Did you do anything whatsoever during that sandbox period?
Also, how many pages is the site?
And lastly, how the HELL did you do 3 mil links in a week!!!
Did you do anything whatsoever during that sandbox period?
Also, how many pages is the site?
And lastly, how the HELL did you do 3 mil links in a week!!!
Sapphirescales that's inspiring. I'm going to have to try that with 2 dead end sites I have, I built them last year and for some reason 1 got deindexed and the other is nowhere to be found despite building a good handful of links to them both.
if you're sites are getting deindexed, sounds like you have real shady things going on, and links will probably not help you.
Ok, adding something to the pot since it seems like xrumer isn't sandboxing my site. Let's see if 100k guaranteed blog comments from loopline will. I spread the 100k amongst 5 keywords:
business cards - 58th
business card printing - 63
print business cards - not in top 300
plastic business cards - 11
cheap business cards not in top 300
Let's find out what happens. I'll keep you all posted on when the order is delivered.
business cards - 58th
business card printing - 63
print business cards - not in top 300
plastic business cards - 11
cheap business cards not in top 300
Let's find out what happens. I'll keep you all posted on when the order is delivered.
I had a nice little web2.0 that ranked number 3 for a male enhancement buy keywords. Free Money. I thought, the domain authority was pretty string so xrum wouldn't hurt, so why not take the number 1 fast. Blasted with 100 K.. The web 2.0 has gone out of sight ever since. That blast wasn't too professional though with a lot of broken BB codes. It was a while ago.
But a little before that you could virtually rank any web two with a few blast.
SO google did wizened up. The best were the blogspot pop up comment urls.
I still have a few digg pages that still brings in a few hundreds a month each.
But to new money sites..never tried... No harm trying though... and if what you are saying can be replicated, One brave soul could create one site every week, blast a few mil, then forget for 9 months. AFter 9 months I should have a new site that brings in good money every week. On second thoughts why not..
Bro, I see what you're trying to do, and all I can say is stop while you're ahead. Yes, this case study was started to protect you, but in return, it hurt my rep and my integrity - both are equally important to me.
I shouldn't have started this with intentions to look out for you, I should have started this with intentions for results, which have hurt this case study all together. All i can say is if you want to chat privately about your site, I'd be more than happy too. As far as this case study continuing in hopes of protecting you, I can't risk it any longer.
I routinely lol @ your posts but this shit had me rolling.
Glad the site bounced back though--this is the trend I'm noticing too now although the sandbox period can be indefinite (i.e. 3 weeks or a whole year, etc.).
That being said, how long have you been ranking #2 now?
3 mils in one week! thats a lot of links. How many unique domains? Were there a lot of anchors used?
I think you got the wrong end of the stick here mate, I don't have any hidden agenda or motives, I would like to see what the effect of this xrumer blast has on the medium term, 1-2 month long.
I'm sure it's not infalliable and it will hit the shitter eventually because when your just build a surge of backlinks and completely stop it, the rankings will crash, eventually.
I would like to see after how long of inactivity the rankings will drop.
I think the HOth did fuck up my site dropped it from #14>#60>#100 but then xrumer did perpetuate the situation and was completely the wrong time to blast it when it was at #100 and already on a downward spiral.
This experiment isn't about how well xrumer does, this test is to see if xrumer fucks up when you going stupid with it. Same anchor text, no drip feed, etc.
It will drop rankings eventully, no doubt about it. I'd like to see hen and after how long.
Okay since so many people are interested, I'll go into a bit more detail. I blasted the site within one week by using 9 different computers on a Comcast Business Class connection (50Mbps). Comcast sent me an email saying that a bot had infected my network. LOL. They send me an email like that every week since I blast at LEAST a million sites per month using ScrapeBox.
As for the type of links used, on this site it was mostly ScrapeBox. I also used DFB. I used one anchor text only. But you know how things go. A lot of the time the anchor text changes to something else so anchor text diversity is pretty good. For example, if you take a look at some of the blogs, they say "visitors website" as the anchor text sometimes. Or just the website URL itself as the anchor. Xrumer diversifies the anchor text even more. But I really don't like buying Xrumer blasts anymore. The shit just doesn't get indexed in YSE or Google. But out of the 3 million links blasted, over 500,000 links now show in YSE.
I did nothing to index the pages (since they're obviously already indexed) and it took roughly a month and a half to see any ranking in Bing or Yahoo. Within the first week though I was on the second page of Google. Then I dropped like a rock and was no where within the top 1000. Then it floated around 650 for months and months. I woke up one day and my AdSense account said I had an extra $200 that day than I normally had so I checked all my sites and sure enough, that one had gotten ranked.
I've been raking #2 consistently for almost a year now. I routinely blast it with more ScrapeBox links as often as I can. Seriously, ScrapeBox with some web 2.0 properties can be your one solution to ranking. I didn't use web 2.0 properties at all on the site in question. I just blasted everything directly. But just remember that ScrapeBox links, though better than Xrumer links, are still shitty so you need a lot of them in order to rank. 10,000 ScrapeBox links can get you ranked for "cheap nighties for women under 40" but don't go after anything remotely competitive if that's all you're going to buy.
EDIT: As for unique domains, that's not as important as people would have you believe. Though it is a good idea to have at least 10% unique domains because if you don't, when one site goes down you lose thousands or tens of thousands of links overnight.
As for the type of links used, on this site it was mostly ScrapeBox. I also used DFB. I used one anchor text only. But you know how things go. A lot of the time the anchor text changes to something else so anchor text diversity is pretty good. For example, if you take a look at some of the blogs, they say "visitors website" as the anchor text sometimes. Or just the website URL itself as the anchor. Xrumer diversifies the anchor text even more. But I really don't like buying Xrumer blasts anymore. The shit just doesn't get indexed in YSE or Google. But out of the 3 million links blasted, over 500,000 links now show in YSE.
I did nothing to index the pages (since they're obviously already indexed) and it took roughly a month and a half to see any ranking in Bing or Yahoo. Within the first week though I was on the second page of Google. Then I dropped like a rock and was no where within the top 1000. Then it floated around 650 for months and months. I woke up one day and my AdSense account said I had an extra $200 that day than I normally had so I checked all my sites and sure enough, that one had gotten ranked.
I've been raking #2 consistently for almost a year now. I routinely blast it with more ScrapeBox links as often as I can. Seriously, ScrapeBox with some web 2.0 properties can be your one solution to ranking. I didn't use web 2.0 properties at all on the site in question. I just blasted everything directly. But just remember that ScrapeBox links, though better than Xrumer links, are still shitty so you need a lot of them in order to rank. 10,000 ScrapeBox links can get you ranked for "cheap nighties for women under 40" but don't go after anything remotely competitive if that's all you're going to buy.
EDIT: As for unique domains, that's not as important as people would have you believe. Though it is a good idea to have at least 10% unique domains because if you don't, when one site goes down you lose thousands or tens of thousands of links overnight.
Just stick to the topic of the thread. And I would hope and assume that was to see if blasting xrumer links (in your case to a relatively new site) can get it sandboxed. It's a case study, so all ya need to do is provide the facts.
Forget whatever other "hiden" agendas you had or what to express, if you keep it to the topic of the thread you'll be better off in the long run there fella.
we'll see, ill case study it
i overpromted them when they were new, i never considered social bookmarking too shady
"business card printing" is on page 11th today.
There's someone on backlinksforum who reported having success reviving one of her deindexed sites using DFB. So it's worth a try. Keep us posted.
There's someone on backlinksforum who reported having success reviving one of her deindexed sites using DFB. So it's worth a try. Keep us posted.