100k to Spend? Suggestions?

Buy $100,000 of WSOs. And apply all of them.

Or media buying might be something to learn. 100k is enough to get a couple of profitable campaigns up on a larger scale. Enough roll to start getting funding for more testing.

Obviously in this case, you'd have to learn to fish.. not just buy a $100k fish.
 


Build 3,000 micro niche sites, if each site makes you 25c you'd be making $750+/day.

You need to, however, know what you're doing.
 
Option 1 would take you way less than $100k.

If you have the financial resources, option 2 should be it.

Not to mention you'll probably learn alot more from it. (Sourcing suppliers, merchant processing, etc)
 
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Why wouldn't you just create a football related product if you have a football celebrity sponsoring it?

I'd start a line of supplements branded in the players name. You can do so many different variations on that and while there is a ton of competition, if you focus on a smaller niche like football and develop a special product for it and market it right it should do well.
 
Why wouldn't you just create a football related product if you have a football celebrity sponsoring it?

I'd start a line of supplements branded in the players name. You can do so many different variations on that and while there is a ton of competition, if you focus on a smaller niche like football and develop a special product for it and market it right it should do well.

That's a good idea.

Alternatively I know some good CPA offers in the UK financial market - life insurance , private medical insurance , debt management etc lead generation. PM me if you are interested. That currently gets me 100+% ROI.
 
That's a good idea.

Alternatively I know some good CPA offers in the UK financial market - life insurance , private medical insurance , debt management etc lead generation. PM me if you are interested. That currently gets me 100+% ROI.

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Why wouldn't you just create a football related product if you have a football celebrity sponsoring it?

I'd start a line of supplements branded in the players name. You can do so many different variations on that and while there is a ton of competition, if you focus on a smaller niche like football and develop a special product for it and market it right it should do well.
But supplements don't work. By that I mean the acai and other bs supplement products. You could probably make some off that but it won't last long and your friend will kill you for losing his reputation.

If you were to make a legit supplement, then you'll be competing in the bodybuilding market. Those guys research their stuff. And you won't be able to compete selling a crappy fulfillment center supplement like all advertisers are using in the aff space.

Best bet would be to create a legit membership site. Clickbank or not, you decide. Fuck the ebook bs. Drip feed your content so customers follow a plan. Extend that plan as long as possible so it's easy for customers to follow and you can rebill them more but don't feed content too slow and thin that they can't see significant results and refund your ass. Now you've built a relationship with them then upsell the mofos.
 
But supplements don't work.

Lol wut? There's a ton of legit supplements out there. I'm not talking about putting some BS together but to actually develop a product.

If you were to make a legit supplement, then you'll be competing in the bodybuilding market. Those guys research their stuff. And you won't be able to compete selling a crappy fulfillment center supplement like all advertisers are using in the aff space.

Agreed that it would be hard to compete in the bodybuilding market which is why I suggested to differentiate yourself from that and do something specializing on football.

Just google football supplements and you won't find a supplement that's specifically branded for it. I'd say something like jack3d but adjusted to football (I have no idea what that would mean but I'm sure your football pro would) could do well, even more so if it's developed and advertised by a pro football player.

In my opinion your biggest asset in this is that you have free celebrity endorsements. They are usually expensive as hell and work well. Just look at the Kardashians teeth offer and a host of other ones.

If you develop a good football supplement, have your guy get testimonies from other pro players which you say he trains and you'll have a seriously legit product in a big market that has a lot of cash.
 
People laugh at clickbank, but if you're on the merchant/advertiser side of things there really isn't anything better. No monthly caps, no handling refund requests, easy integration with many e-commerce scripts, and a large affiliate base that can build your mailing list pretty quick. If I was in your position, I'd have a diet + workout program created, hire a ghost writer to make a book about it (upsell the hell out of the website), publish it amazon for like $8, hire a good PR firm, do some interviews etc.

For the website, do something like a 120 day diet program with daily meals and suggested workouts, calories burned calculator, meal/nutrients tracker, drip feed the content on a daily/weekly basis, offer affiliates 75% recurring, and then on the back end upsell the workout videos, supplements, and maybe even 1 on 1 consulting.

Of course put an opt-in form on the site, setup a forum, offer incentives to people who upload youtube videos and before/after videos, facebook fan page, twitter, blog, etc...


Cool. That's kinda where I am with this...

Thanks...
 
Create a p90X knockoff, buy a shit load of TV air time and and get a call center setup.. or debt reduction.. key words here are shit load of TV air time.
 
I have an old idea, fully fleshed out, for a software as a service setup targeted at the fitness/training niche that could make good money if marketed/sold well. You could probably get it developed for about 25k, the rest could be your marketing budget. I'm also not kidding about this, I'm dead serious, I'll never get to building this out and I want to see someone do it. Hit me up if you're interested and we can discuss
 
Take his 100k and lock it away in a safe. Come back to him in a year and say 'I'm really sorry but I was unable to make you any money. To atleast make it up to you, here is your 100k back, paid in full.' ... He will now trust you with a million. Take it and run, man... Just gtfo.
 
Start an affiliate network , go JV with a experienced super affiliate or experienced AM's and spend the rest of the cash promoting it .
 
Fact: Truth About Abs, Clickbank's #1 product outside the make money online niche does well over 100k revenue every day.

Single affiliates do well into five figures every day.

Out of your suggestions, with yourself not being overly experienced in product creation and promotion, I'd go the Clickbank route.

With 100k you have a lot of money to play with.

1) Hire two very good CLICKBANK copywriters.

...There's a distinct style that direct response marketers just don't grasp when it comes to the online sales letter / video.

Have each do a long form sales letter and then a powerpoint video template (basically what should be on each slide).

2) Have a designer do two-xx designs to split test your copy. Also have your long form sales letters spoken to be put as power point videos.

Note: Truth About Abs, written by Vin Montello, was originally a long form sales letter before being turned into a powerpoint video. The speaker literally read off the sales letter and clicked through the slides.

...Powerpoint are as much a fade as anything. In a year they'll be dead. Long form sales letter copy is NEVER dead... it's the bread and butter of all direct response and online sales whether you like reading or not.

Your biggest asset ever will be the long form sales copy pieces you get.

3) Test combinations until there's a proven winner. No matter how unlikely it'll seem that one video and design will work extremely well there is always one combination, as with any copy/design, that surpasses all.

4) You should have your copywriters do at least one upsell... possibly get each copywriter to do a different upsell. So one would do a $97 video course the other a $197 home study course piece of copy.

...Your buyer is already predisposed to buy from you again. Your backend, no matter the price as long as we're talking under $300 with proper copy, should convert at atleast 30%. 50% is where you should aim for.

5) Refine your process of upsells and downsells to no more than five.

...Beyond that your buyer will get anxious and may refund the whole thing.

Note: As to the uninformed posters above saying Clickbank doesn't work well with upsells you don't use them beyond the first few dipshit. You use merchant accounts for all bigger upsells.

A good process may be a $37 front end with a $97 backend... if they don't take the backend downsell it to $47 and if they take that or not hit them with a $197-397 coaching/ home study course. If they take upsell one then hit them with the $197-397 coaching/ home study course.

Beyond that is your call... it's usually best to wait and sucker... uh, persuade, your buyer after a week or two with a bigger $997 or $1,997 coaching program.

6) Recruit affiliates... through whois spamming big affiliates doing media buys to doing guest posts on Shoemoney (which is a great move for this guy starting out) like here.

This is pretty much grunt work and phone calls just like any affiliate manager.

Hint: big Clickbank products have "affilaite managers" going out trying to get people on board (mainly CPA guys, actually).

7) Test and optimize with the data from your affiliates. Your growth will directly be linked to how happy your affiliates are... just like I know "super affiliates" if you give me great service and bonuses I'll tell my friends.

The biggest point, and I can't stress it enough, is putting emphasize on copywriting. Don't think that Clickbank affiliates are stupid... they will promote what converts best for them. Look at fatloss4idiots on Quancast.

...That's what happens when your site converts like shit. And just a few years ago the did 22 million in revenue. Now they're lucky if they do 10... all because they didn't keep testing and optimizing their offers.

You have the luxury of cash... use it wisely. Build generic offers, with real value, that have awesome copy and test until that bitch converts better than any other weight loss offer.

Don't expect success to come immediately... make sure you have strong in house operations because it will take awhile for reluctant affiliates to switch over without some major pushing.

If you want copywriters hit me up on AIM: FTChater.

...Expect 10-30k per page + royalties from the three guys I'll give you.

One has written nearly every #1 Clickbank "make money online" product (all of which do over a million in revenue) who just finished a job for me outside the mmo niche... another wrote and directly coaches Truth About Abs... and the other writes direct mail pieces that do millions (and firmly understands the Clickbank game).

Personally I'd use 75k for copywriters and course development (including all the upsell goodies, etc). That's what like under $200 a day... you can do that with even the crappiest e-book in house. Don't skimp out, man. When you want to enter into big players like Truth about Abs, diet solution, and even Fat Loss 4 Idiots you need to spend money.

...They might not be in the spotlight or as glamorous as some re-bill offers. But you don't take away market share from low to mid eight figure companies without some fight.

...You won't need much for actually testing purposes. You'll make back most of it so it's not such a big deal. Recruiting affiliates also doesn't take much money, just effort.
 
I've been up since 6 coming back home from vacation... above post wasn't as detailed, and doesn't flow, like I thought when I typed it.

...But like I said hit me up on AIM if you're serious and I'll help you out with designers and copywriters (all except the designer need personal recommendations before working with new clients... because of people running away with great copy, etc).

I'd seriously do my market research and know the weight loss industry. There's a lot you can learn about call centers and upsells from the re-bills, too. But optimizing your backend shouldn't be your main concern.

As long as you get your copywriters to make different upsells you'll do alright until you really start breaking down and analyzing everything.
 
Fact: Truth About Abs, Clickbank's #1 product outside the make money online niche does well over 100k revenue every day.

Single affiliates do well into five figures every day.

Out of your suggestions, with yourself not being overly experienced in product creation and promotion, I'd go the Clickbank route.

With 100k you have a lot of money to play with.

1) Hire two very good CLICKBANK copywriters.

...There's a distinct style that direct response marketers just don't grasp when it comes to the online sales letter / video.

Have each do a long form sales letter and then a powerpoint video template (basically what should be on each slide).

2) Have a designer do two-xx designs to split test your copy. Also have your long form sales letters spoken to be put as power point videos.

Note: Truth About Abs, written by Vin Montello, was originally a long form sales letter before being turned into a powerpoint video. The speaker literally read off the sales letter and clicked through the slides.

...Powerpoint are as much a fade as anything. In a year they'll be dead. Long form sales letter copy is NEVER dead... it's the bread and butter of all direct response and online sales whether you like reading or not.

Your biggest asset ever will be the long form sales copy pieces you get.

3) Test combinations until there's a proven winner. No matter how unlikely it'll seem that one video and design will work extremely well there is always one combination, as with any copy/design, that surpasses all.

4) You should have your copywriters do at least one upsell... possibly get each copywriter to do a different upsell. So one would do a $97 video course the other a $197 home study course piece of copy.

...Your buyer is already predisposed to buy from you again. Your backend, no matter the price as long as we're talking under $300 with proper copy, should convert at atleast 30%. 50% is where you should aim for.

5) Refine your process of upsells and downsells to no more than five.

...Beyond that your buyer will get anxious and may refund the whole thing.

Note: As to the uninformed posters above saying Clickbank doesn't work well with upsells you don't use them beyond the first few dipshit. You use merchant accounts for all bigger upsells.

A good process may be a $37 front end with a $97 backend... if they don't take the backend downsell it to $47 and if they take that or not hit them with a $197-397 coaching/ home study course. If they take upsell one then hit them with the $197-397 coaching/ home study course.

Beyond that is your call... it's usually best to wait and sucker... uh, persuade, your buyer after a week or two with a bigger $997 or $1,997 coaching program.

6) Recruit affiliates... through whois spamming big affiliates doing media buys to doing guest posts on Shoemoney (which is a great move for this guy starting out) like here.

This is pretty much grunt work and phone calls just like any affiliate manager.

Hint: big Clickbank products have "affilaite managers" going out trying to get people on board (mainly CPA guys, actually).

7) Test and optimize with the data from your affiliates. Your growth will directly be linked to how happy your affiliates are... just like I know "super affiliates" if you give me great service and bonuses I'll tell my friends.

The biggest point, and I can't stress it enough, is putting emphasize on copywriting. Don't think that Clickbank affiliates are stupid... they will promote what converts best for them. Look at fatloss4idiots on Quancast.

...That's what happens when your site converts like shit. And just a few years ago the did 22 million in revenue. Now they're lucky if they do 10... all because they didn't keep testing and optimizing their offers.

You have the luxury of cash... use it wisely. Build generic offers, with real value, that have awesome copy and test until that bitch converts better than any other weight loss offer.

Don't expect success to come immediately... make sure you have strong in house operations because it will take awhile for reluctant affiliates to switch over without some major pushing.

If you want copywriters hit me up on AIM: FTChater.

...Expect 10-30k per page + royalties from the three guys I'll give you.

One has written nearly every #1 Clickbank "make money online" product (all of which do over a million in revenue) who just finished a job for me outside the mmo niche... another wrote and directly coaches Truth About Abs... and the other writes direct mail pieces that do millions (and firmly understands the Clickbank game).

Personally I'd use 75k for copywriters and course development (including all the upsell goodies, etc). That's what like under $200 a day... you can do that with even the crappiest e-book in house. Don't skimp out, man. When you want to enter into big players like Truth about Abs, diet solution, and even Fat Loss 4 Idiots you need to spend money.

...They might not be in the spotlight or as glamorous as some re-bill offers. But you don't take away market share from low to mid eight figure companies without some fight.

...You won't need much for actually testing purposes. You'll make back most of it so it's not such a big deal. Recruiting affiliates also doesn't take much money, just effort.


Sweet.

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