6 Reasons Not to go to school for Design.

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Figured I'd write an article about this ;)

Someone wrote a "7 reasons you should go to art school" thread on a different mainstream webmaster forum and I decided to play antagonist and write a "6 reasons not to go to design school" article.
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Design School | 6 Reasons not to go

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Complete and total disagreement.

I went through 3 years of Industrial Design school at Cal State Long Beach.

1. While you can learn elements of design, you need collaboration and feedback from others to understand how design is a method to communicate a message. Design school is not art school. The objective is to convey a message as clearly as possible. The best way to know whether or not your message hits is whether or not the 20 or 30 people in your program can recognize what you're doing.

2. Your take on professors might be accurate for elementary schools. A good design school is staffed with outstanding professors that have spent decades "in the field". My profs all had at least 15 years of real world design experience, from some of the top companies in the world.

3. Writing a 10 page report on Van Gogh doesn't have anything to do with design. Van Gogh wasn't a designer. He was an artist. A designer is always commissioned for the purpose of commercial means. A 10 page report on the success of the iPod or the Roomba or Nike's promotional campaign would be EXTREMELY relevant to being a successful designer. Oh, and most top quality design schools are impacted programs. Sure, you need your General Education credits, but everything else is spent focusing on the program itself. And lets face it: GE's are good for most people. Understanding the fundamentals of economics, mathematics, english, science, etc is important to being a well rounded individual.

4. It's only a waste of your time if you don't take advantage of the opportunity. Let's face it - college isn't just about receiving an education. All the students in a given program are going towards the same objective. These are your peers. You get to bounce ideas of them. Your professors can help you land jobs and clients. You can also take advantage of student design organizations within each of the design disciplines (for instance, I'm still a member of the IDSA).

5. Some private design schools cost $45,000 or MORE. Hell, Pasadena Art Center costs something like $50k PER YEAR. State design schools like CSULB and SJSU for me cost $1500-$2000 per semester. Across 5 years (being realistic) you're talking $20,000.

6. Yes, the important thing is a strong portfolio when you want to get a job. I got OUT of the design program because I just... plainly... wasn't a very talented artist. BUT. The experiences and skills within the design department are still extraordinarily valuable to how I perform as a business person. Trust me, I've worked with some of the top web designers in the country (as well as top SEO's and Usability experts) and they all like working with me because I understand what a designers life is like.

Anyways, moral of the story is that for the most part I completely disagree with you. Cheers!
 
1. While you can learn elements of design, you need collaboration and feedback from others to understand how design is a method to communicate a message. Design school is not art school. The objective is to convey a message as clearly as possible. The best way to know whether or not your message hits is whether or not the 20 or 30 people in your program can recognize what you're doing.

Wrong. The best way to know whether or not your message hits is by analyzing the results of applications such as google analytics and others like it. I don't want the biased opinion of 20 or 30 other "aspiring" designers. It's a flawed group. The best way to see if your message is being conveyed or not is done a real environment, the real customers, with split testing. And another good method is by having a feedback form on each page.

2. Your take on professors might be accurate for elementary schools. A good design school is staffed with outstanding professors that have spent decades "in the field". My profs all had at least 15 years of real world design experience, from some of the top companies in the world.

There could be exceptions, but not every design school is "good"

3. Writing a 10 page report on Van Gogh doesn't have anything to do with design. Van Gogh wasn't a designer. He was an artist. A designer is always commissioned for the purpose of commercial means. A 10 page report on the success of the iPod or the Roomba or Nike's promotional campaign would be EXTREMELY relevant to being a successful designer. Oh, and most top quality design schools are impacted programs. Sure, you need your General Education credits, but everything else is spent focusing on the program itself. And lets face it: GE's are good for most people. Understanding the fundamentals of economics, mathematics, english, science, etc is important to being a well rounded individual.

GE's are what you learn in high school. Secondly, a person can alternatively research marketing success stories completely on their own without spending an arm and a leg to do it through a college.

4. It's only a waste of your time if you don't take advantage of the opportunity. Let's face it - college isn't just about receiving an education. All the students in a given program are going towards the same objective. These are your peers. You get to bounce ideas of them. Your professors can help you land jobs and clients. You can also take advantage of student design organizations within each of the design disciplines (for instance, I'm still a member of the IDSA).

You want to network, use the internet. That's how I've networked and it has worked great. The significance of having "peers" is over-rated, especially in a college environment. Once you're finished, you all forget each other anyways. If you want companionship you can seek friends else where and you don't have to spend $40,000+ to do so.

5. Some private design schools cost $45,000 or MORE. Hell, Pasadena Art Center costs something like $50k PER YEAR. State design schools like CSULB and SJSU for me cost $1500-$2000 per semester. Across 5 years (being realistic) you're talking $20,000.

Exactly, it's insanity. ;)

6. Yes, the important thing is a strong portfolio when you want to get a job. I got OUT of the design program because I just... plainly... wasn't a very talented artist. BUT. The experiences and skills within the design department are still extraordinarily valuable to how I perform as a business person. Trust me, I've worked with some of the top web designers in the country (as well as top SEO's and Usability experts) and they all like working with me because I understand what a designers life is like.

Experience, and understanding the necessary concepts of effective design are all something a self motivated individual can learn/achieve on their own. And learning on your own through trial and error makes for a more well rounded designer than one who came to learn it through a book or a college professor. Nothing beats real world experience.

Anyways, moral of the story is that for the most part I completely disagree with you. Cheers!

Well I wouldn't expect someone who actually went to design school to agree with me. If I went to design school and dropped all that money, I wouldn't agree with me either no matter how right I was. I'd rather bullshit myself into believing it wasn't a waste haha.
 
Wrong. The best way to know whether or not your message hits is by analyzing the results of applications such as google analytics and others like it. I don't want the biased opinion of 20 or 30 other "aspiring" designers. It's a flawed group. The best way to see if your message is being conveyed or not is done a real environment, the real customers, with split testing. And another good method is by having a feedback form on each page.
Logo designs don't go through analysis. The client says "move the R over a touch". I'm sure all your clients sit there and multivariate test their sites with different logos. Reality, in most circumstances, is that groups decide designs. Whether it's a designer and a client or a design house and an entire company votes on which logo they like, etc.

Also, again, my background was in Industrial Design. We had to RP everything; it takes money to design on any medium other than web.

There could be exceptions, but not every design school is "good"

If it's an accredited university, it's probably pretty decent. There are lots of crappy design schools, but most of them aren't accredited. They're just fluff factories.

GE's are what you learn in high school. Secondly, a person can alternatively research marketing success stories completely on their own without spending an arm and a leg to do it through a college.

You don't learn GE's in high school. You learn how to learn in high school. General Education frosh & soph years is pretty valuable. You get a fundamental, rounded education on a variety of topics. Not only that, but the idea is that the topics that you study, even at the GE level, are things that you're interested in. For instance, I took 3 Philosophy courses because I found them really interesting. Professors are in place because they can help guide students through the material.

You want to network, use the internet. That's how I've networked and it has worked great. The significance of having "peers" is over-rated, especially in a college environment. Once you're finished, you all forget each other anyways. If you want companionship you can seek friends else where and you don't have to spend $40,000+ to do so.

Once you're finished you all forget each other anyways? Damn bro, you've got a bad opinion of the college experience, eh? I've got industry friends, I've got "virtual" friends, but college is an excellent place to meet people. Let's not forget: chicks. Duh. There is no better pickup line in the world than, "Hey, aren't you in my Chem class? How'd you do on that midterm?"

Experience, and understanding the necessary concepts of effective design are all something a self motivated individual can learn/achieve on their own. And learning on your own through trial and error makes for a more well rounded designer than one who came to learn it through a book or a college professor. Nothing beats real world experience.

I agree that real world experience is valuable. But fundamentals and theory are valuable as well. Art history, for instance, was a fucking drain. Don't get me wrong. I would NEVER volunteer to study art history for 10 hours a week for 16 weeks. BUT. I actually understand the process that happened throughout the last 500 years to get us (artistically) where we're at now. In itself, useless knowledge. But if a client says to you, "Man, that's a little too Baroque for me" would you know how to respond?

Well I wouldn't expect someone who actually went to design school to agree with me. If I went to design school and dropped all that money, I wouldn't agree with me either no matter how right I was. I'd rather bullshit myself into believing it wasn't a waste haha.

The moral of the story isn't that you're not a talented designer. The fact of the matter is that I hear a lot of web folks arguing that an advanced education is a waste of time. There are ample examples of people that have gone online and done well for themselves. But for every online success there's probably 20 failures. Probably more like 50. College isn't for everyone, but it's easy to say that you don't need an education when the web market is doing so well. If / when things go postal again, and your clients dry up, a BA, Graphic Design will open a lot of doors that even a stellar portfolio won't open for you.
 
My friend went to school for design. After graduating, he got a job washing cars. True story.
 
I know a hooker with a master's degree - so what.


Go to college for an education. Not a job.
 
My friend went to school for design. After graduating, he got a job washing cars. True story.

I know someone who graduated with a bachelors in applied mathematics and got a job selling shoes.

I know someone who graduated with a bachelors in philosophy and got a job writing web pages. True story.

I know someone who graduated with a bachelors in computer science and got a job working as a video store clerk.

I know a hooker with a master's degree

I've been a puppet, a pauper, a pirate, a poet, a pawn and a king
I've been up and down and over and out and I know one thing
Each time I find myself layin' flat on my face
I just pick myself up and get back in the race

And I didn't graduate from high school. :eek:
 
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