A dilemma on getting started in IM

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rickyjupiter

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I've been reading for a few weeks now trying to figure out which direction to go, and i'm still a bit lost.

Would it make more sense as a total noob to begin in PPC on POF, creating landing pages for offers etc...

Or building a niche site that I am actually interested in, outsourcing SEO work (and continuing it since I know it doesn't always last), and outsourcing the monetizing of the site?

I can write well without selling hard or at all, I get the concepts, but I just don't get how exactly the money comes in. I'm fully prepared to lose money, but I know in the long run I will profit.

This is newbie questions after all so where do I get started? I know someone will say "Just get started" but at what exactly is my question?

Build a site with a few thousand words, to start, on a niche that I am a bit interested in and think I can profit on? Ok, I can do that. But what do I do from there? Put up ads? From AdSense or the like? Sell something? How do I find a product to sell?

What are some good tools to use to research keywords, and search results?

And on the PPC route, would I just bluff my way into an Affiliate Network, then find offers I feel will convert and start blasting POF ads out? I know I have to test, I know I have to research demographics, and think outside the box. but is it really that simple?
 


All the time i've spent on this site and I didn't see the "WF Treasure Trove" sticky. I'm finding a lot of the info I just asked for in there.
 
Try starting out by making a website about something you're passionate about. You say you've been reading for a while and you still feel lost, and it will always be confusing until you try something, and making a website about something you enjoy will be the easiest way to do so. Pick a main keyword you want to rank for and some related ones. Install Wordpress and become comfortable with it, learn what plugins are best and how they work. Get your onsite SEO perfect, this may be seem really easy (and it can be with the right plugins) but will oftentimes require you to actually go into the theme editor and work with code. Because the topic of the site is something you enjoy, you'll be able to write a lot of good content for it. Aim for a 500-1000 (the higher the better) word article per day, make sure it's formatted and looks good. Make sure visitors can get around your site easily. Don't worry about making money yet.

Once your site feels fully optimized and running, keep writing content for about a month and check your position on the SERP's. Resist the urge to do backlinking before this as this is a learning experience. By remembering how much work and effort you've put into your site and seeing the results in a SERP, you'll be able to gestalt an understanding of niche difficulty and ranking in a natural setting.

Now you want to slowly start building backlinks. You will want to do this manually with your first site. Post blog comments on related blogs or email the owners to do a guest post with a link to your site. Submit your sites to bookmarking and media sites like reddit and digg. Post on related forums. Build websites on Web 2.0 hosts like Squidoo, Blogger, etc that link to your site and have them randomly interlink with each other. Now build blog comments, forum posts, and bookmarks to those websites. Write articles for article directories like ezine and then backlink to those as well. Keep doing this for a month and see where you're ranking now. Learn what your effort has given you, you will move up the SERPs. Hell, if you've truly put in hard work and time into writing quality and unique content for both your website and your other properties, you could easily be #1 if your niche is easy enough.

If not, now try some paid links. Almost everyone will recommend Red Virus's social bookmarking passage as a great starter. Order it, wait for a report, then wait a week and see what happens. Try some other services, read reviews and try to decide what will work best. High PR blog posts and social bookmarks are really popular nowadays. Don't order multiple services at once because you won't know what did what when your ranking changes. For high quality backlinks or your own Web 2.0 properties, try blasting them with scrapebox comments or profile links. Keep testing.

Now, all along the way, you are gonna fuck up. You'll make really stupid mistakes but here's the thing, you won't make them again. You're going to learn so much by screwing up and then refining your methods. Didn't hit page 1 with all that time, effort, and money? You'll learn how hard some niches are. Hit the #1 spot but getting next to no visitors? Probably didn't do your keyword research right. Even if everything turns out to be a complete failure, you're next attempt will be 10x easier.

And if it is a huge success, worry about making money then. Look at adsense, affiliate offers, content locking, clickbank ebooks, physical product commissions. You won't have to "bluff" your way in at that point. Experiment and see what will make you the most money. And when you start getting income either a) rinse and repeat with all your new knowledge b) invest that money into learning PPC campaigns.
 
NightG said:
Try starting out by making a website about something you're passionate about. You say you've been reading for a while and you still feel lost, and it will always be confusing until you try something, and making a website about something you enjoy will be the easiest way to do so. Pick a main keyword you want to rank for and some related ones. Install Wordpress and become comfortable with it, learn what plugins are best and how they work. Get your onsite SEO perfect, this may be seem really easy (and it can be with the right plugins) but will oftentimes require you to actually go into the theme editor and work with code. Because the topic of the site is something you enjoy, you'll be able to write a lot of good content for it. Aim for a 500-1000 (the higher the better) word article per day, make sure it's formatted and looks good. Make sure visitors can get around your site easily. Don't worry about making money yet.

Once your site feels fully optimized and running, keep writing content for about a month and check your position on the SERP's. Resist the urge to do backlinking before this as this is a learning experience. By remembering how much work and effort you've put into your site and seeing the results in a SERP, you'll be able to gestalt an understanding of niche difficulty and ranking in a natural setting.

Now you want to slowly start building backlinks. You will want to do this manually with your first site. Post blog comments on related blogs or email the owners to do a guest post with a link to your site. Submit your sites to bookmarking and media sites like reddit and digg. Post on related forums. Build websites on Web 2.0 hosts like Squidoo, Blogger, etc that link to your site and have them randomly interlink with each other. Now build blog comments, forum posts, and bookmarks to those websites. Write articles for article directories like ezine and then backlink to those as well. Keep doing this for a month and see where you're ranking now. Learn what your effort has given you, you will move up the SERPs. Hell, if you've truly put in hard work and time into writing quality and unique content for both your website and your other properties, you could easily be #1 if your niche is easy enough.

If not, now try some paid links. Almost everyone will recommend Red Virus's social bookmarking passage as a great starter. Order it, wait for a report, then wait a week and see what happens. Try some other services, read reviews and try to decide what will work best. High PR blog posts and social bookmarks are really popular nowadays. Don't order multiple services at once because you won't know what did what when your ranking changes. For high quality backlinks or your own Web 2.0 properties, try blasting them with scrapebox comments or profile links. Keep testing.

Now, all along the way, you are gonna fuck up. You'll make really stupid mistakes but here's the thing, you won't make them again. You're going to learn so much by screwing up and then refining your methods. Didn't hit page 1 with all that time, effort, and money? You'll learn how hard some niches are. Hit the #1 spot but getting next to no visitors? Probably didn't do your keyword research right. Even if everything turns out to be a complete failure, you're next attempt will be 10x easier.

And if it is a huge success, worry about making money then. Look at adsense, affiliate offers, content locking, clickbank ebooks, physical product commissions. You won't have to "bluff" your way in at that point. Experiment and see what will make you the most money. And when you start getting income either a) rinse and repeat with all your new knowledge b) invest that money into learning PPC campaigns.
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I came in here to do a bit of heavy lifting and help if I could. But yo nigga, this is some serious shit you just posted up in here.
 
^^ and...

More to the point i fucked around with AM -- not knocking it at all. I learned some stuff but it's not me (at least it wasn't when I started -- read on) . Went the MMO route -- which is very alluring but it's a scam. Kept reading about seo here on WF, which interests me. Finally I decided to follow my passion. Ok, so it's only a medium competitive niche but using WF resources I hung my site on page 1 in like 6 weeks.

Now I have the confidence to go after other niches.

Dude, listen to this man. He speaks truth.
 
NightG said:
Try starting out by making a website about something you're passionate about. You say you've been reading for a while and you still feel lost, and it will always be confusing until you try something, and making a website about something you enjoy will be the easiest way to do so. Pick a main keyword you want to rank for and some related ones. Install Wordpress and become comfortable with it, learn what plugins are best and how they work. Get your onsite SEO perfect, this may be seem really easy (and it can be with the right plugins) but will oftentimes require you to actually go into the theme editor and work with code. Because the topic of the site is something you enjoy, you'll be able to write a lot of good content for it. Aim for a 500-1000 (the higher the better) word article per day, make sure it's formatted and looks good. Make sure visitors can get around your site easily. Don't worry about making money yet.

Once your site feels fully optimized and running, keep writing content for about a month and check your position on the SERP's. Resist the urge to do backlinking before this as this is a learning experience. By remembering how much work and effort you've put into your site and seeing the results in a SERP, you'll be able to gestalt an understanding of niche difficulty and ranking in a natural setting.

Now you want to slowly start building backlinks. You will want to do this manually with your first site. Post blog comments on related blogs or email the owners to do a guest post with a link to your site. Submit your sites to bookmarking and media sites like reddit and digg. Post on related forums. Build websites on Web 2.0 hosts like Squidoo, Blogger, etc that link to your site and have them randomly interlink with each other. Now build blog comments, forum posts, and bookmarks to those websites. Write articles for article directories like ezine and then backlink to those as well. Keep doing this for a month and see where you're ranking now. Learn what your effort has given you, you will move up the SERPs. Hell, if you've truly put in hard work and time into writing quality and unique content for both your website and your other properties, you could easily be #1 if your niche is easy enough.

If not, now try some paid links. Almost everyone will recommend Red Virus's social bookmarking passage as a great starter. Order it, wait for a report, then wait a week and see what happens. Try some other services, read reviews and try to decide what will work best. High PR blog posts and social bookmarks are really popular nowadays. Don't order multiple services at once because you won't know what did what when your ranking changes. For high quality backlinks or your own Web 2.0 properties, try blasting them with scrapebox comments or profile links. Keep testing.

Now, all along the way, you are gonna fuck up. You'll make really stupid mistakes but here's the thing, you won't make them again. You're going to learn so much by screwing up and then refining your methods. Didn't hit page 1 with all that time, effort, and money? You'll learn how hard some niches are. Hit the #1 spot but getting next to no visitors? Probably didn't do your keyword research right. Even if everything turns out to be a complete failure, you're next attempt will be 10x easier.

And if it is a huge success, worry about making money then. Look at adsense, affiliate offers, content locking, clickbank ebooks, physical product commissions. You won't have to "bluff" your way in at that point. Experiment and see what will make you the most money. And when you start getting income either a) rinse and repeat with all your new knowledge b) invest that money into learning PPC campaigns.
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This is awesome. + rep
 
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