Adsense Ban $700 findinginvestmentproperty.com - Traffic sent from yahoo ppc ysm

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ok the title is pretty self explanatory.

i got banned from adsense and lost $700 and ppc costs, what did i do wrong? i don't know.

1. signed up for adsense
2. made a website
3. put one medium sized ad on the site
4. bought traffic from yahoo ysm
5. got banned from google right before my first check.
6. lost $700 revenues and ppc costs

nothing but the facts, make your own judgment about me and google, i showed you the site and what google did to me.
 


btw, i found wickedfire a couple of months ago and started doing "ppc arbitrage", it clearly isn't arbitrage since that is risk free gain. just a note to newbs, you can be banned from adsense, i wish i would have found a post like this a couple of months ago so i would not have lost that money.

this just feels like a sucker punch by google. no explanation no warning just a boot right before i got paid. they basically told me i wasn't good enough.


It has come to our attention that invalid clicks and/or impressions
have been generated on the Google ads on your site(s). We have
therefore disabled your Google AdSense account. Please understand that
this was a necessary step to protect the interest of the AdWords
advertisers.

i hope this helps someone else realize that arb sounds like a gold mine, but it isn't and you need to work to earn your money. all the low lying fruit has been picked. learn something, get good at it, and make money.

cheers,
a banned adsense associate
 
Hey..you said you found Wf a few months ago and started doing arb..how long ago did you start? What other sites do you have? Has Google ever paid you?
 
a couple of comments from someone, who has learned a lot from wickedfire.com during the last month:

- don't blame wickedfire.com for what has happened. there are posts that clearly state how much attention you should give to the statistics of your site to avoid invalid clicks. maybe you have not read them, but they are there.

- don't blame google. i have never really heard of someone who has been banned unjustified. in the end, we all know that we are walking a thin red line with arbitrage and that special caution is required when you enter this game. it might have been that someone did click your adsense ads 10-times and you did not prevent that to happen by installing a simple adblocker.

- your advice re "you need to work to earn money" sounds, like you expected money to fall into your lap once you did setup an arbi page in 5 minutes. well, as you learned by now, arbitrage requires working hard if done right. it is not the interweb dumbass method of getting rich on autopilot.

i am just writing this, because wickedfire as well as google have been good to me over the last two month. i am getting nice money from arbi but more important i managed to pull in $100 a day by now after finding wickedfire.com and learning the affiliate business from ground up.

so, don't discourage some newbies not to step into this game because you made a bad experience. rather teach them, to read the disclaimers more properly than you did.
 
started a couple of months ago, have a couple of other sites but they don't do any traffic or clicks. so this is basically my only site. no google never paid me.

i used to be a big fan of google and said they would never do it to me. everyone that got banned deserved it. people getting banned are just scamming google etc.

but now i see things differently. there are literally thousands of other people just like me on the net.

some guys have some cooked up ideas about how adsense is a scam. for example i sent 15,000 clicks to them. basically free targeted advertising and 100% profit for google.

i don't know if adsense is a scam or not. but i do know that i did nothing wrong afaik and they will not tell me what i did. how can you appeal an error you don't know exists!

ok i used to recommend google to everyone, but now that's just not the case, use yahoo search or msn, i just reset my homepage to search.yahoo.com i'm not sending google anymore free traffic when they stole 15,000 targeted clicks, $700, and ppc costs from me. not only that i find yahoo's search to be pretty damned good. there must be some smart ppl working at yahoo. in fact a lot of features exist in yahoo's search that i've grown to love and really can't find or really do without any more.

btw feel free to ask me any other questions so that you can spot the error that google won't tell me exists. maybe i could appeal that.
 
cyberworkspace said:
a couple of comments from someone, who has learned a lot from wickedfire.com during the last month:

- don't blame wickedfire.com for what has happened. there are posts that clearly state how much attention you should give to the statistics of your site to avoid invalid clicks. maybe you have not read them, but they are there.

- don't blame google. i have never really heard of someone who has been banned unjustified. in the end, we all know that we are walking a thin red line with arbitrage and that special caution is required when you enter this game. it might have been that someone did click your adsense ads 10-times and you did not prevent that to happen by installing a simple adblocker.

- your advice re "you need to work to earn money" sounds, like you expected money to fall into your lap once you did setup an arbi page in 5 minutes. well, as you learned by now, arbitrage requires working hard if done right. it is not the interweb dumbass method of getting rich on autopilot.

i am just writing this, because wickedfire as well as google have been good to me over the last two month. i am getting nice money from arbi but more important i managed to pull in $100 a day by now after finding wickedfire.com and learning the affiliate business from ground up.

so, don't discourage some newbies not to step into this game because you made a bad experience. rather teach them, to read the disclaimers more properly than you did.
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ok first off i did nothing wrong, i blamed nobody. secondly do not accuse me of expecting money to fall in my lap. do you want me to accuse you of what your comments suggest?

no newbies need to find this because they might walk into it thinking google is their friend after they end up expecting a big check to come in the mail or worse go get a loan for ppc because they see a huge number in their adsense account.

could you imagine someone you knew reading about making money with adsense and getting a loan to pay for ppc based on the money in their account and then losing it all?

so don't make this into an accusation match, it isn't about you, me, wickedfire, google or anyone else. it is just facts.

cheers,
a banned adsense associate
 
cyberworkspace said:
a couple of comments from someone, who has learned a lot from wickedfire.com during the last month:

- don't blame wickedfire.com for what has happened. there are posts that clearly state how much attention you should give to the statistics of your site to avoid invalid clicks. maybe you have not read them, but they are there.

- don't blame google. i have never really heard of someone who has been banned unjustified. in the end, we all know that we are walking a thin red line with arbitrage and that special caution is required when you enter this game. it might have been that someone did click your adsense ads 10-times and you did not prevent that to happen by installing a simple adblocker.

- your advice re "you need to work to earn money" sounds, like you expected money to fall into your lap once you did setup an arbi page in 5 minutes. well, as you learned by now, arbitrage requires working hard if done right. it is not the interweb dumbass method of getting rich on autopilot.

i am just writing this, because wickedfire as well as google have been good to me over the last two month. i am getting nice money from arbi but more important i managed to pull in $100 a day by now after finding wickedfire.com and learning the affiliate business from ground up.

so, don't discourage some newbies not to step into this game because you made a bad experience. rather teach them, to read the disclaimers more properly than you did.
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cws, can you point a "newer bee" to some of those posts with the statistics info. What are you using to track clicks? I still have to familiarize myself with google analytics.

Also your post is the first I've really noticed regarding an adblocker. i'm going to search the forum now but if you could let me know which one you use that would be great...congrats on the $100 a day. How many sites is that?

For me this is yet another reason why I'm taking my time and not just "jumping in" heck I would have jumped in with no adblocker and got slapped. Thanks for that tidbit.

As far as the finding investment property site...I dunno is it okay to have text pages? Maybe a more experienced member can dissect your page. Just sign up with another advertiser man ...all is NOT lost. Adsense just might not be for YOU. But something else might be. Just keep at it.

Another thing if you had adsense on any other pages...check those too. before contecting google to get back in I'd suggest you revamp that arb page and any others and make decent sites so when google looks at your site manually you be worth given another shot. Also ask them what period did the invalid clicks occur and say you don't want the revenue for those clicks...just keep at it..but I wouldn't post that site everywhere...google reads this site any many others...
 
Lee. said:
cws, can you point a "newer bee" to some of those posts with the statistics info. What are you using to track clicks? I still have to familiarize myself with google analytics.
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hi lee. the statistics issue is quite all over the place. read posts from diorex, on-on, kieran and you will find, that the super affiliates all put emphasis on tracking and hence "knowing your customer inside out". also, lerchmo's script (the pro-version) has the detailed stats-tracking embedded.

i use adlogger to track any adsense clicks i get and have also set the threshold to one click per person in 24 hours.

Lee. said:
Also your post is the first I've really noticed regarding an adblocker. i'm going to search the forum now but if you could let me know which one you use that would be great...congrats on the $100 a day. How many sites is that?
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that is adlogger as well. the $100 come from affiliate business however. in arbi i am as low as $10 a day (net profit), as i really stick to the page i made 2 month ago, tweaked them a bit. why? because i don't want google to get suspicious but get a steady increase in volume.
i am also fine with my 30% ctr, and am not longing for 60-70%. this is all stuff, that gets the red warning lights and sirens turned on and that is, why they still pay me. next month i increase the traffic and sites by 30-50%. slowly. without wakening the dragon ;)

Lee. said:
For me this is yet another reason why I'm taking my time and not just "jumping in" heck I would have jumped in with no adblocker and got slapped. Thanks for that tidbit.
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that is exactly my mindset as well. read, learn, try it. slowly but steadily.
 
antisycophant said:
some guys have some cooked up ideas about how adsense is a scam. for example i sent 15,000 clicks to them. basically free targeted advertising and 100% profit for google.

i don't know if adsense is a scam or not. but i do know that i did nothing wrong afaik and they will not tell me what i did. how can you appeal an error you don't know exists!
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and that is, where you need to ask yourself what you have been missing when you did setup your arbi environment: to keep your stats clean and tidy.

of course you cannot appeal now, if you don't have a clue who has clicked on your pages when and from where. but that is something very crucial to know.

no need to be pissed at me now for pointing this out. i can understand that you are in a very bad mood, but all in all, you come across a bit unprepared despite that these issues exist as long as arbi is a topic.
 
antisycophant said:
ok the title is pretty self explanatory.

i got banned from adsense and lost $700 and ppc costs, what did i do wrong? i don't know.

1. signed up for adsense
2. made a website
3. put one medium sized ad on the site
4. bought traffic from yahoo ysm
5. got banned from google right before my first check.
6. lost $700 revenues and ppc costs

nothing but the facts, make your own judgment about me and google, i showed you the site and what google did to me.
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No offense, but your site is very obviously an arbitrage site. All of the text is in one big paragraph and totally unreadable.

I don't want to sound like an ass, but if you had taken the time to write 3-5 pages of decent content (or hell, paid someone like me $100 to do the sites content for you) this whole thing probably would never have happened.

Think of it like this: you get your site up and someone from Google gives it a visit. They can't even read the text well because it is nearly illegible. Obviously that site isn't there to deliver quality information, and you are clearly not getting your traffic from SEO.

A + B = C. I'm sorry, but that's just the way it works. It's a tough lesson, but at least you're learning it now before you rake up $750 a week or something in arbi earnings only to have your AdSense account banned.

What I think could have prevented this:
  • 3-5 pages of good, quality content. Nothing screams "Ad Farm" more than a one page layout with 500 words and ads all over it.
  • More Attention to Detail. Make the page look more functional- you know, give it a purpose besides being an arbi site.
Try appealing to Google and see if they might un-ban you- you never know.

Sorry about your misfortune.
 
yoink*gasp* said:
What I think could have prevented this:
  • 3-5 pages of good, quality content. Nothing screams "Ad Farm" more than a one page layout with 500 words and ads all over it.
  • More Attention to Detail. Make the page look more functional- you know, give it a purpose besides being an arbi site.
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3-5 pages of good quality content is anti-arbi. good quality 1 page content is better than scraped stuff from wikipedia though. you don't want leaks on your page - you want people to click on your ads.
 
antisycophant said:
ok i used to recommend google to everyone, but now that's just not the case, use yahoo search or msn, i just reset my homepage to search.yahoo.com i'm not sending google anymore free traffic when they stole 15,000 targeted clicks, $700, and ppc costs from me. not only that i find yahoo's search to be pretty damned good.
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Did you ever think about if it's maybe the YSM traffic's fault that you were banned?


Btw you only made 700 bucks from 15000 clicks? What the hell?
 
jened said:
[/list]3-5 pages of good quality content is anti-arbi. good quality 1 page content is better than scraped stuff from wikipedia though. you don't want leaks on your page - you want people to click on your ads.
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True enough, but if you format those articles to encourage visitors to click the ads you are much less likely to get banned.
 
As mentioned your site is an arbitrage site and you risk getting booted for that.

As someone who had an Adsense account closed for doing nothing wrong (running on general purpose legitimate sites and nothing the least bit shady or untoward ever happened at my hand), I can confirm that Google's ability to accurately detect and prevent fraud without getting false-positives is pretty horrible. IE they suck at it.
 
antisycophant said:
btw, i found wickedfire a couple of months ago and started doing "ppc arbitrage", it clearly isn't arbitrage since that is risk free gain. just a note to newbs, you can be banned from adsense, i wish i would have found a post like this a couple of months ago so i would not have lost that money.

this just feels like a sucker punch by google. no explanation no warning just a boot right before i got paid. they basically told me i wasn't good enough.


It has come to our attention that invalid clicks and/or impressions
have been generated on the Google ads on your site(s). We have
therefore disabled your Google AdSense account. Please understand that
this was a necessary step to protect the interest of the AdWords
advertisers.

i hope this helps someone else realize that arb sounds like a gold mine, but it isn't and you need to work to earn your money. all the low lying fruit has been picked. learn something, get good at it, and make money.

cheers,
a banned adsense associate
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Often when people get banned, they still recieve their payment up till the date of the ban. Did they say anything about that?
 
SEORebel said:
Often when people get banned, they still recieve their payment up till the date of the ban. Did they say anything about that?
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That only happens if they kick you out for violating content guidelines.

If they suspect you of any wrongdoing or fraud they withhold payment.
 
antisycophant said:
btw, i found wickedfire a couple of months ago and started doing "ppc arbitrage", it clearly isn't arbitrage since that is risk free gain.
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Please don't take this the wrong way, but go get a job. This isn't for you. I've never heard anyone say that arbitrage is risk free gain. Go directly back to econ 101 and on your way there, read up on the downfall of Barings bank and Nick Leeson.

Arbitrage by its very nature is prone to risk and loss.

If you're going to stay in this business, develop a good bankroll and prepare for the worst. Shit like this happens. Be prepared and don't let it put you out of business. Be gratefull that your loss was limited to $700.00

You have two choices now. 1)Learn your lesson, chalk it up to tuition in the school of life and move on. 2)Get a Job and go on telling people that the internet is a dangerous place.

I'd prefer you took choice #2, I don't like competition and hopefully you can help me scare off the next generation of internet marketers.
 
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