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WayOutWisdoms

WayOutWisdoms

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Yeah, I recently signed up after seeing a banner ad here on WF, and was wondering about a specific concern regarding business ethics.

A few months back, I got scooled "Thinking" I was buying a "Google Kit for $1.99"

Come to find out it was a sham, and I had my credit card shut down before experiencing recurring (unauthorized) deductions being taken from our account. As was being reported by 100's of others.

Once we'd learned how many people were complaining about how immoral these ads were, we found about affiliate marketing shortly after (6 weeks ago), so in a way I'm grateful.

But, I just signed on with Yep! Revenue, and don't want to make any negative assumptions towards Yep!, but two of the merchant programs they offer under "biz opps" are indeed Google offers. I always preview the landing pages to have some knowledge of what I'm promoting or selling, ya know.

In doing so, the landing page is exact to the one that snookered us a few months ago. Needless to say, I'm not looking to "Scam" people or "push" any program that doesn't provide what they're promising.

Does anybody know... if in fact the Google programs offered by Yep! are indeed "Bogus Google Kits" that are not approved or associated to Google, and really don't exist at all?

Truth is, given the pleasure of finding the person who stole from me ( be it $1 or a Million), I'd beat their fucking ass! So, politely put, I'm not looking to be the dickhead who has 100,000,000 honest affiliate programs to promote, who instead chooses to "Scam" for a quick-buck.

I have more respect for a prostitute than those who choose that path!

Please, if anyone knows of the 2 Google Biz Opps w/ Yep! Revenue Network being the ones ripping people off, do let me know. I filled out the 1st page hoping to see, and was taken to a credit card check-out, just like the one that burned me prior. (Which I can admit my ignorance for having paid without seeing the product, but it was only supposed to be $2, luckily I Googled shortly after, to learn people were having their credit cards raped for $100's of dollars by the scammers placing or promoting the ads)

I will still use Yep! as I'm sure they are either unaware or take no responsiblity for their independent (paying) merchants content, but I will won't stand for theivery, unauthorized credit card fraud, or be the tool promoting that kind of shit! (I'd be better off selling dope! ~At least with that people know what they're getting!) A practice I've long abandoned mind you.:rasta:

Again, I think Yep! has some decent programs to promote, and won't lose any sleep over my measly $2 loss, but I gotta know if there one in the same?

Thanks... Just trying to keep it REAL!
 


There are no "official" or "Google-endorsed" "programs" being sold ANYWHERE. You will see these offers on any network and yes they are the exact same product that you bought.

Secondly, if you have such great moral concerns over 'scamming' people, then you need to log out of Yep! Revenue right now and register an account at Commission Junction or maybe an Amazon Affiliate program.

By the way, rest assured that Yep! Revenue knows very well what those offers are and how they are being marketed. As does any other network.

Welcome to Affiliate Marketing.
 
You should forget about many of the affiliate networks, they sell mainly the products your not looking to sell, they're called rebill offers. Or, you could promote rebill offers and state all of the terms and conditions on your landing page but then you'll go broke.

CJ and Amazon are probably your best bet and lucky for you, Amazon is still running in Florida (at least the last I heard).

Or you could always go back to pushing dimebags on the corner of international drive.
 
FlatLine said:
You should forget about many of the affiliate networks, they sell mainly the products your not looking to sell, they're called rebill offers. Or, you could promote rebill offers and state all of the terms and conditions on your landing page but then you'll go broke.

CJ and Amazon are probably your best bet and lucky for you, Amazon is still running in Florida (at least the last I heard).

Or you could always go back to pushing dimebags on the corner of international drive.
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I am usually tie p with CJ .. That is one of biggest affiliate network. I am earning a few $$$ in CJ.Yeprevenue - Signuped for it . But I haven't promoted products of it. Not seems good than CJ.
 
sir i believe you will have some problems with this industry, my suggestion would be to either relax your morals or find something else to do.
kindest regards.
 
mprey said:
There are no "official" or "Google-endorsed" "programs" being sold ANYWHERE. You will see these offers on any network and yes they are the exact same product that you bought.

Secondly, if you have such great moral concerns over 'scamming' people, then you need to log out of Yep! Revenue right now and register an account at Commission Junction or maybe an Amazon Affiliate program.

By the way, rest assured that Yep! Revenue knows very well what those offers are and how they are being marketed. As does any other network.

Welcome to Affiliate Marketing.
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Having learned the hard way that there are no such "Google Kits" I'm pretty sure Google does actually have an affiliate program, as I am awaiting approval. It's GoogleAffiliates or somethin like that.

While I'm actually quite immoral in many ways... I simply cannot take money from someone and not give them something in return. Hell, if I was selling "magic beans" and people would pay... alrighty then.

But to defraud?

NO! And with good reason...

It's just having realized that Yep is promoting that junk knowing; that doing so kills it for 'Real' opportunities, and makes all our efforts more difficult to make a buck that's some BS!

It leaves a stain in the mind of all who "get burned" to likely not try other legit offers, click ads, take risk, or ultimately SPEND MONEY!

Which, is the real reason it pissed me off, not so much $2 or over the moral issue.
haven't signed with Amazon yet, so thanks for that mprey

I'm already with CJ, Linkshare, and roughly 45 others that range from hardcore porn, adult toys, to educational products & leapfrog kits for toddlers, so if I drop YEP! it's no big deal.

They do have some household namebrand merchandise to offer, but definitely don't compare to CJ, Linkshare, or even ClixGalore (whom I despise cause their back office and user panel sucks hairy balls)

I've simply been looking for companies with 2nd tier programs offering commisions for recruiting other webmasters, as in truth... I'm not looking to sell too much of any one product... including dimebags on International.

FlatLine

~Hell, I haven't even smoked pot in nearly a decade. I don't want my kids doin' the dumb shit I did back in the day!

Instead, I'm exploring the long-term gain by creating a huge sales force of 2nd tier affiliates. Being a noob, I have'nt a clue if it'll work... but the idea beats building swimming pools & waterfalls for another 15 years!

The trip tho was seeing Yep shows the ave pay-out for each program, and the Google Scams show a $36 ave profit, yet the landing page for the Google Scam Check-out window states it's ONLY $3.85 for Shipping & Handling!

Do the math, that means the ave person at a 30% commission is being stroked for $100 or more!

I just think it fucks it up for all the Decent stuff people are trying to promote, even if everyone and their grandma is selling "How to's" and freaking "E-books" to every wanna b marketer millionaire.

Besides, after the not so moral email I sent to YEP! Revenue:repuke:,
I don't think they'll want me as an affiliate anymore anyway!
 
YEP! Revenue is a fantastic company. I absolutely recommend them 100% to people looking to make money in affiliate marketing. Jamie is my AM there and he is fantastic.

If you have problems with rebills, in this industry you're just going to have to get over it. There's no use getting angry that other people are doing it, because yes, they're doing it and making mad cash with it.

You don't have to promote rebills, but absolutely don't single out Yep! as the only network that promotes them - virtually EVERY CPA network has rebills. CJ and Amazon are part of the very few that don't.
 
What i find funny, is the Google kit brought you to this forum. You are bashing your maker. The specific product you bought you may have felt wasnt worth the money, so you got to cancel within your free trial but it taught you something didnt it?

Thats why its a free trial, if you dont like it you dont have to pay for it. To me sounds like you got everything you expected and more. To you that kit may have sucked to tohers it may have been a god send, and if you found this forum through buying that kit, it was a god send to you too.
 
Every affiliate network on this site promotes this 'junk', if you don't want to promote it then you can go to CJ and promote lawnmower tires instead.
 
to wayout "wisdoms"

If you're so wise, maybe you'd stop blaming the advertiser you stole from and blame yourself for choosing not to read the terms of service. Are you F-ing kidding me? You think you'll get the secret to making millions on the internet for $1.99?

First of all, Caveat emptor.

Second, all these rebills have their terms available before you enter your credit card number. It's like a pass/fail IQ test. You failed. I wouldn't draw attention to it in the future if I were you.

If you wanted to bitch about how some of these advertisers won't let people cancel and so forth, you'd have an argument.
 
DangerBrown said:
to wayout "wisdoms"

If you're so wise, maybe you'd stop blaming the advertiser you stole from and blame yourself for choosing not to read the terms of service. Are you F-ing kidding me? You think you'll get the secret to making millions on the internet for $1.99?

First of all, Caveat emptor.

Second, all these rebills have their terms available before you enter your credit card number. It's like a pass/fail IQ test. You failed. I wouldn't draw attention to it in the future if I were you.

If you wanted to bitch about how some of these advertisers won't let people cancel and so forth, you'd have an argument.
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While I am aware of Caveat emptor "Let the Buyer Beware" and agree...

the issue here is NOT, nor ever was concerning the rebill. Thus, Danger I'm a little concerned with your ability to hear beyond that of your own voice. Clearly, nothing in your response coincides with anything I wrote prior.

In fact, if half of you actually read what I was stating, the issue is promoting something that doesn't even fuckin exist!

Here Danger responds; not letting people cancel a rebill is a meaningful bitch, yet you condone selling something that doesn't frigging exist...WTF?

Secondly, no... I believe I'll make my first $5 million without spending a frigging dime, having learned what I know...

Then, you break open your response stating: I'm ripping off an advertiser?... Please elaborate, cause truth is, I haven't a clue what the hell you're talking about! ~I damn sure didn't have the privilege to a FREE 30 Day Trial, because, I CANCELLED THAT SHIT PRONTO!

(So who are you... to be calling me a theif?)

Lastly... there isn't one ioda of written literature regarding the rebill. NOT in the "PRESELL" or "POINT OF SALE"

But the real issue (that everyone with the exception of a few) is clearly missing is simple:

If they had send a piece of toilet paper with a shit stain reading; "Here's Your Friggin' Google Kit Idiot" or in a more polite fasion sent a piece of paper with Google's Webmaster's Tools url even, then it would be understandable, they would've sent something.

Yet, NOWHERE in anything leading to the "point of sale" (Again of a kit that doesn't exist) is there any indication NOT to expect something for ones purchase!

Yet, I'm being attacked, and being called everything from a morality freak, a bitch, and my personal favorite... by Poncho's cheesy contribution... ignorant?

I'll tell ya, I didn't blame YEP! ~ I only questioned their integrity

I am not denying having been schooled!

I admitted the good that transpired... despite some malinformed transliterations that somehow my sore ass limped into the industry as a direct result of a "Google Kit" that doesn't exist!

~Which is only a minute fraction of how I got here, and that was without a sore ass mind you!

Finally... regarding rebills, if I were to offer a 30 Day Free trial of "Milk-Maid Honey's" with your purchase of "Back-Wood Ass Stump-Bumpin'" for just $9.99, and the dumbasses didn't read "Terms of Service" which I'd be sure to include...and get stroked for a $100 rebill...then I agree, absolutely acceptible! Without a doubt!

Leaving me to question... How the hell did my initial concern, or better still interest for everyone here who's marketing a product, become an attack over an issue concerning rebills? Terms of Service? My Morals? or especially My ignorance?

When the whole f'in time the issue was selling a product that doesn't exist, and then...stroking people further with a rebill!

The rebill's the secondary issue, and I agree most are what they are fine print IQ tests. As Danger stated...

Only I didn't fail, after the googly fucklin, Yes... I did cancel!

~But with NO product in existence...

~A rebill NOT indicated before the presell or point of sale (and even some I understand are generally attached afterwards...which obviously I choose not to promote)

~And my ultimate beef being "Google Kits" that don't exist...this is fucking all of us....

To think I'm being called ignorant leaves me to wonder...While I'm writing #1 articles on philosophy, pyschology, and a ton of other self-help guru shit that many of you people buy in e-books with my 8th grade education, who's really ignorant here?

When I'm wrong, I'll take the beating! In fact, I welcome it! But if you're going to mis-interpret the facts, give left field answers, and NOT know how to read...Don't Answer My Fucking Posts!

For those who did defend Yep! and actually help me determine if they were o.k. (Hanna for example) aside from this issue...which I clearly stated was an independent merchant's scam... Thank-you!

For those of you who implied I'm in the wrong business watch & learn, cause blowing that kind of smoke spells failure written all over your path, and for guys like Danger, whom shockingly I'd read some of your other posts prior to this, I'm sure you've at least been around a bit...(unlike taco, putah, poncho whatever the hell his name was) and despite the abrasive nature... thanks for the adreneline boost... It Drives Me to Succeed Mr. Brown!

Look... all I wanted was to expose the fact if you're selling shit...provide the shit you're selling!

If your selling diamonds...don't sell marcosites!

But if your selling Google Kits that don't exist... ATTACHING A REBILL TO IT...You can Blow Me first next time, and had you...I mighta been a better sport!

~And now I'm a theif, a bitch, moralist freak, and ignorant...go figure!

Either I need to learn how to write, or some of you ______ _______ need to learn how to read! or need to go back over to dp!

In-F'in-Credible!
 
You know what, instead of wasting your time trying to do affiliate marketing, go hand out resumes.

You're complaining that rebills are shitty products.

You're bragging about how you're better than us because you write articles about psychology.

You're convinced you'll make millions without spending any money at all.

Seriously, just give up now. It'll save you a lot of time, and probably money.
 
Ya know, I'll give up on this post, retract my Thank-You that I actually directed at You hanna for your insight that Yep was decent, and say in closing, I did not say rebills were shitty poducts!

I'm not bragging that I'm better than anyone, simply defending my intelligence against this onslaught of ignorance & attacks towards my inquery (that most of you seemed to have NOT read very well) considering 75% of the comments posted here were taken way out of text (by people who obviously can't fucking read, yet call me ignorant?)

You're damn right, I am convinced I'll make millions, as I've already made 2 million and lost it in the past 15 years, which is by far a greater lesson than any of you can ever teach me!

And lastly, I don't give up, put out, or talk shit unless I can back it up!

So as for this continuum of sheer-fucking-stupidity, I'll move on to matters of a greater importance. And admit having been ignorant for not keeping my post to a four-letter word maximum, short & perhaps more consise, and at a 3rd grade reading level so not to confuse half of you who've managed to do nothing but basterdize my attempts to actually look-out for my fellow marketers!

Apparently, the message is NOT getting through, leading me to believe either all of you prefer ripping people off, and ARE SELLING GOOGLE-KITS for the quick-buck with NO concern for the million & one quality products that DO EXIST... or you're simply pent up, and bent on the friggin' rebill bs, that I clarified 666 friggin times already IS NOT THE FUCKING ISSUE!

Look I'm not gonna sell or support phony Google Kits, nor should anyone!

Get It! Got It! Good! ~I don't care about the prior loss, I care about the future losses being preconcievable if this shit is tolerated. I don't know what program you think I'm referring to...but this Google Kit is ignorance at it's finest, and you don't agree... The you've obviously contributed to fucking people over, which includes everyone who can & can't read on this post, yourself, and me included.

But that o.k., maybe you'd like to buy my Jimmy Jane platinum & diamond embedded vibrator for $3250 and go fuck yourself! (Plus, I could use the another $325 on the commision)

Now get over the rebill stand-off, and READ, again R-E-A-D what this post was originally trying to determine!

W-H-I-C-H was simply my attempt to understand H-O-W anyone can S-E-L-L a GOOGLE KIT (With or without a friggin rebill) and NOT damage the integrity of every marketer online?

Can it be S-P-E-L-L-E-D out any simpler?

So put that in your achy breaky twat-pipe and smoke it, I had enough of this trying to be nice to ignoraance bullshit! Half of you haven't ever even posted a thread on WF, you just drift into other people's shit and root yourselves into an issue you can't solve, nor contribute to, like poncho!
 
mkrongel said:
What i find funny, is the Google kit brought you to this forum. You are bashing your maker. The specific product you bought you may have felt wasnt worth the money, so you got to cancel within your free trial but it taught you something didnt it?

Thats why its a free trial, if you dont like it you dont have to pay for it. To me sounds like you got everything you expected and more. To you that kit may have sucked to tohers it may have been a god send, and if you found this forum through buying that kit, it was a god send to you too.
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Respectively seeing your status here, I felt it was essential to clarify that the Google Kit experience was part of a search that began prior. Sure I can see the good in it, just as I learn everytime I login to WF.

The 1st post was long, perhaps not consise enough, but the issue here is that you stated above the "product" that I paid sucked. No it didn't suck, it didn't EXIST!

Is there something wrong with that picture?...Ummm...Yeah, there was NO PRODUCT!

Now I get hammered that I'm disrespecting the rebill, ripping off the advertiser, hammered by you for bashing my maker, called ignorant, told to get out of the biz, acused of bitching, and Oh yeah being acused of bragging in my own defense! WTF?

Maybe I got harsh on the last post as I'll admit to have unloaded...but honestly you've obviously been around awhile, and along with mprey, flatline, and hanna until the last post...nobody here seems to think using the name Google, selling a Kit that doesn't exist isn't damaging to everyone in a way?

At this point I'm about ready to start selling the damn thing, and adopting the attitude that I'll get my money back by ripping off someone else?

Heck, I could dream up the domain names now... Benover.com, Strokin-Genius.net, LemmyScrewYa.org.... C'mon that's all I got is imaginative ways to package stuff, perhaps that's why this is so offensive? No matter how good the next offer that Google victim see's, chances are they're running away, not walking!

Hell, I might as well invest $5000 with Ty's Reverse Funnel System, $1800 Liberty League International, $2500 w/ Dubbs EDC Gold, or $2500 w/Coastal Vacations, at least they actual use tactical manipulation in a way that gives people what they paid for, and then teaches em how to do it to someone else, so don't think I haven't a clue, just cause I'm a noob.

I simply thought the art of affiliate marketing was promoting other peoples products. I don't care what the product is, as long as it's a product, so as I'll partially apologize to hanna for my JJ bit, as apparently my general attraction to aussie's has crossed a new threshold, I think maybe I should thank all of you for bringing to my attention that ignorance is alive and well, and resides... in selling a kit that doesn't exist.

Thanks for revealing how you've made your money, and if not why work so hard to defend it?

I'm off to learn how to take screen shots, and if anyone else has anything other than an actual screen shot of a landing page from Yep, showing me where you see TERMs as Danger claims is on every landing page, or especially something in fine print that states (there really is no Google Kit, but you only pay for shipping & handling) then drop it!

Cause this shit's old and growing pathetic on all our parts, and no one has yet to grasp... I'm down with people doing rebills, so be it, as you reap what you sew. And, I myself will likely find a few to test out in the future, and advertise all over australia as hanna seems to defend the love of rebills, now we all know what country to target!

Only, I'll give people a fighting chance... just as I did prior, until some of you crossed the line, and the thresholds of constructive critisim crossed into warfare!

And even still mkrongrel, this forum is a god send brother, only i'll chase a demon str8 to hell to see they get home safely, full well knowing I might stop long enough to skip a few stones on the lake of fire, but my ass has a much higher calling, like leaving well enough alone here!!
 
WayOutWisdoms said:
Only, I'll give people a fighting chance... just as I did prior, until some of you crossed the line, and the thresholds of constructive critisim crossed into warfare!
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You put so much thought and time into what you say and yet you still look/prove to be so fucking stupid!! You're annoying, kill yourself!! :boid:
 
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