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(Why am I not allowed to post a reply in introduction, now I'm just gonna get told to introduce myself there, dammit)

Well, anyway, here it goes (gonna be a long one).

So, I'm new to this business, just finished doing my homework, which is reading a lot of this forum, some e-books (never bought one, filetype: pdf does miracles on google), learning wordpress and a bit of tracking the traffic, got hosting, some domains, registered to CPA networks, got some lousy dollars from adsense etcetc..

The problem is the same what I believe 90% of the newcomers like me have - the sheer amount of information and the clear starting point. There are hundreds of opportunities flashing by all the time and it's driving me fucking crazy. Super super hard to choose where to start from. Now, if you're already starting to hit reply and tell me go to DP, just fucking skip it and do us both a favor, ok?

Now, WF is imo the best forum to find people who simply know how to make money in this business. Or at least I like the style here. What I think many many people like me would need is yet more personal coaching.. a little holding hand (umm, not what you thinking) when getting started - but in more detailed way than, say, threads here that have 30 participants and one or two gurus trying to keep up telling everyone how to do it.

Howabout a clear commission-based system? If you know how to make 100 dollars a day - teach it to some newbie (in this case being me) who you think will be able make it. Would take at max some minutes a day - getting the details of your prospect to make sure s/he's not a complete moron. Making a phone call, MSN chat, whatever. Just to make sure he's your guy.

Agree on a limit. Until the day your guy makes 50$ a day, all the money will be put back in to the money making machine - advertising, outsourcing for content or design, whatever.. But when the daily profit reaches your limit, the next month, or hell, even two months - ALL the profit coming in would be paid to the mentor in question. I for one would be in immediately. The affiliate marketing schools and on the web charge you monthly, and how the hell am i supposed to know whether they are the real shit or just an access to "member area" which is just full of crappy ebooks which i can download for free anyway just by looking around a bit. This kind of "pay a LOT when you get there"-system would be beneficial for both - the mentor and the pupil.

I'm making around 3k $ a month in my day job, which is kinda ok for normal livin.. But I have tons of free time both outside the working hours and inside them. I want to put that time in to good use instead of watching some faggot reality tv shows on tv.

Getting my Ms.C next spring and before doing that, wanna get into this business to be able to travel around and work wherever I want to after graduating. I got motivation, I got the tech knowhow, just need a starting point and someone estabilished to say nono to my bad choices and tell me what the heck is going wrong or right. So I would do all the "work", you would do the guiding. After getting to e.g. 100$ a day, the payment would be all the money flowing in during the next month - meaning 3k+, if your methods are the kind that won't depend on google killing your campaign one day some other blackhat bullshit depending on scamming some big player. Affiliate marketing, pay per clicks, leads, anything goes as far as it's legal and not vulnerable to one day disasters.

I know I'm definately not the only one willing to do this kind of thing to get started. And couldn't find any websites offering this kind of service. This could be good stuff to launch for someone with ton of connections with the big guys in this business. The key to success would be in the teacher's hands...If you choose an incompetent fool (i like that term) or can't show the methods - no money. If you get a good prospect and get him to make money - tons of $$$.

If you're up to it, PM me or ask here for more details. Now, here's the real catch. If you can teach me or someone else how to make 100$ a day just like that, hell, you gotta have a shitload of bucks coming in anyway and will ask why bother. If you can get me there, I'll fucking buy you a MEDAL, mail it to you and publicly announce you my hero here on wickedfire.:bowdown: Now, just think how gay is that!:rasta:

Anyway, looking forward to hear your thoughts on the idea here, or if people would be willing to do the same (would support the idea of setting up a whole business on this one). I just don't see Internet marketing dying anywhere in the next years. At least in my home country (finland) it's still in very very early stages.

Cheers,
ismo
 
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So you want somebody to hold your hand and show you how to make money online just so you can become one of there competitors?
 
I can't believe I just read that entire post. I am going back to sleep. Good luck.
 
So you want somebody to hold your hand and show you how to make money online just so you can become one of there competitors?

Ummmm, yes and no. It's not that straightforward. That's exactly what people are doing - but for free or for fixed money per month. On this very forum as well. What's the difference? If this kind of website existed, you seriously think no one would sign up?

If I do fishing for living and teach someone how to fish for a lot of money, does it make sense? Yes. He will become my competitor but will never harm my business that much...

But hell, it's just an idea. More comments?



ChrisBa, narsticle, thanks for the advice, might just look there. Volume10, good nite.
 
You want to be spoon fed. If you truly wanted to be successful at AM like you said in your original post you'd figure it out for yourself by making mistakes and learning from them.
 
You want to be spoon fed. If you truly wanted to be successful at AM like you said in your original post you'd figure it out for yourself by making mistakes and learning from them.

Well, I'm on it. Just generally think that there's no need to reinvent the wheel. But I will if or when this idea is not gonna fly. My intention wasn't to kick up the conversation about me or my motives, rather on the idea itself. Check the topic.

Guess I made the original post a bit too personal. I'm just an example that there would be at least one client for this system. Pretty sure there are more out there.

Seriously, not talking bout me, any comments on the idea itself? I mean generally about the revenue model used on this thing - I think if you truly know how to teach whatever it is you're doing - this would make more money to you. No need to make your students your competitors, just say their idea is shit if they come up with the same stuff you're doing. Simple. For a flat fee of 50 dollars a month someone will pay it until he thinks he knows enough and quit. Might take 10 months, might take less. And the money left in the house - less than 500 bucks. Better personalized guidance, more hand holding, and more money to the house. What are the weaknesses here? Also, I don't see any other newcomers replying here.. What's your take on this? If there's demand, there'll always be supply too.

And yeah, i do count on people having sense of humour here about the second to last chapter... I vaguely remember seeing something remotely like that here :)
 
Well, I'm on it. Just generally think that there's no need to reinvent the wheel. But I will if or when this idea is not gonna fly. My intention wasn't to kick up the conversation about me or my motives, rather on the idea itself. Check the topic.

Guess I made the original post a bit too personal. I'm just an example that there would be at least one client for this system. Pretty sure there are more out there.

Seriously, not talking bout me, any comments on the idea itself? I mean generally about the revenue model used on this thing - I think if you truly know how to teach whatever it is you're doing - this would make more money to you. No need to make your students your competitors, just say their idea is shit if they come up with the same stuff you're doing. Simple. For a flat fee of 50 dollars a month someone will pay it until he thinks he knows enough and quit. Might take 10 months, might take less. And the money left in the house - less than 500 bucks. Better personalized guidance, more hand holding, and more money to the house. What are the weaknesses here? I don't believe that there is so little money flying around online that if you tutor someone to get started, it'll harm your own business.

You do a lot of writing here, so you must enjoy it. That's a coveted skill that others will pay for. Write for cash, or create a site about something you enjoy and write the content. Learn more here about how to monetize it.

There's your business plan.

A lot of talking and no action is not gonna earn you any clams. If you're gun-shy about getting started and gambling with your money - this is the wrong place for you. I have already lost about $1,500 on AM ventures, but came back here to begin again.

The experienced WF members have all lost time and money on duds, so they're not keen on doling out their secrets. People who ask for hand-holding generally get killed here.
 
You do a lot of writing here, so you must enjoy it. That's a coveted skill that others will pay for. Write for cash, or create a site about something you enjoy and write the content. Learn more here about how to monetize it.

There's your business plan.

A lot of talking and no action is not gonna earn you any clams. If you're gun-shy about getting started and gambling with your money - this is the wrong place for you. I have already lost about $1,500 on AM ventures, but came back here to begin again.

The experienced WF members have all lost time and money on duds, so they're not keen on doling out their secrets. People who ask for hand-holding generally get killed here.


He hit the nail on the head.
Next time you write a huge post like that on wickedfire, you should squize the terms "Black Hat", "Black Hat SEO" into the post more, wickedfire will move up in googles search engine for those terms :rasta:

There are alot of people around here that could use a good content writer.

my $0.02
 
Well you're looking for people who really know what they're doing to teach you. And if they really know what they're doing, they're making hundreds and in some cases thousands of dollars a day. So teaching you would become a burden.
 
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