Cookie Stuffing

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amazed213

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Hi Guys,

My first post so I have no idea if this is a lame question, something cutting edge, or my guess, something out of date....

I have a website for a pretty generic industry and my idea is to cookie stuff most visitors all the big sites they are going to go to and buy from anyways.....(my visitors all come from organic seo traffic)

My idea is to write a script where it checks the referrer and if the user came from google natural results, AND is using IE 6 or 7, then it will go to town and open up an iframe for the affiliate link for all of the referrers. I'm also probably an idiot for posting all of this on this forum...

the idea being that if the affiliate networks (sucky ass CJ and linkshare and others) or the advertisers look to check for cookie stuffing, they will only see it if they search one of the search terms through google, yahoo or msn....i will remove the search terms that are "mysite.com" and "mysite" also so it doesnt cookie stuff for those, in case the person checking enters the url into the google search box like some people do...

I will then put the links on my site so I can always say that my users simply click on the links... and I get about 500 visitors/day right now so I don't think thats enough volume to sound the alarm...

anyways, my developer is having a few issues... first, the iframes are slow, and it loads all the images from all the links, and second, at the bottom of the browsers, it shows the user the affiliate links its opening...

there's gotta be a better way to do this than iframes....

someone point me in the right direction? am i on the right track? am i wasting my time?

thanks

power newb^9
 


After reading your post.. just don't do it. You obviously don't have the skills to do it right and only thing you are going to get out of this venture is ban to aff programs.

And no, nobody is going to explain you how to do it right. There's only few ways to do it without any risk of getting caught and you are not going to find those in public.
 
Just forget about it, since it's the fast and easy way to get banned...sooner or later they all get caught.
 
thanks for advice

micfire said:
After reading your post.. just don't do it. You obviously don't have the skills to do it right and only thing you are going to get out of this venture is ban to aff programs.

And no, nobody is going to explain you how to do it right. There's only few ways to do it without any risk of getting caught and you are not going to find those in public.
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you guys are right, thanks for the tips...i got no business with that, im gonna stick to what I know...the industry payouts are garbage anyways.....i'm gonna focus on some more $$$ seo campaigns...

just for the sake of curiosity and discussion, what if only ie6 users that went through google natural search got stuffed... which would be less than 20% of the users...it seems like a good approach to me....i bet that is what people are doin'....(among other things I have in mind but won't mention here)

and yes I am taking your guys advice and letting this one go, i'm just curious about thought process and a little intellectual mastur8tion

power newb^9
 
amazed213 said:
you guys are right, thanks for the tips...i got no business with that, im gonna stick to what I know...the industry payouts are garbage anyways.....i'm gonna focus on some more $$$ seo campaigns...

just for the sake of curiosity and discussion, what if only ie6 users that went through google natural search got stuffed... which would be less than 20% of the users...it seems like a good approach to me....i bet that is what people are doin'....(among other things I have in mind but won't mention here)

and yes I am taking your guys advice and letting this one go, i'm just curious about thought process and a little intellectual mastur8tion

power newb^9
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You forget one important thing in your cunning plan.. what you think merchants statistics will look like when this one affiliate converts like hell only with IE6?

Like I said, just forget it ;)
 
I have an ebook to sell you that will tell you eveything you need to know *cough*

Seriously though, there are a number of good posts here ways to hide your cookie stuffing. Do a bit of research on them, and come back next week after actually having tried them.
My personal suggestions is the round-robin approach, where you make it a random chance of them getting a cookie, regardless of browser or search term... Looks a bit more natural if you set it low, and enough repeat customers get the cookie over a prolonged period.
 
The problem with cookie stuffing in a legit network like CJ is that you'll easily be caught because of extremely high clicks and a low conversion rate. It's almost guaranteed they'll question the traffic, and when not given a good reason, you'll be out. Merchants also love kicking out affiliates who lower their EPC, even if the affiliate is making sales. If you tried cookie stuffing in any CJ program that I work with on the advertiser's side, believe me you'd be out of the program.

Keep in mind that if you get caught and have had sales, you could easily get yourself into a lawsuit, as Shawn Hogan of Digitalpoint has... Courthouse News Service
 
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this man makes millions.
keep your distance.
 
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