do you smell scam?

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bizkiller

bizkiller

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so, it was about 3 weeks ago,

i saw a Job ads on craigslist,

saying that they are hiring e-bay workers.

i applied, they said i need to apply job by contacting the manager via MSN messenger.

so i did... oh btw, do you guys know, OverSale.Org ??

i googled the web address

and i saw their ads on Alibaba

http://www.alibaba.com/buyofferdetail/100707456/Looking_For_Electronics_Supplier.html

They said they are the international seller, and they have their own stores all over the world, the main company is located in Russia.

so basically,

i list the items they tell me to list.

mostly expensive electronics.

and i western union them the money,

and they dropship the product to the buyer.

Here is the conversation between me and that maneger

job@oversale.org says:
All fees will be paid with your month salary including final listing ebay fees
job@oversale.org says:
After 2 sales we will made pre payment to you via Western Union.
job@oversale.org says:
2000$ (USD)
job@oversale.org says:
+ Ebay fees
Raphael says:
so
Raphael says:
i list items
Raphael says:
and i get paid first ( My salary + Listing Fees) ?
job@oversale.org says:
no
Raphael says:
i mean after i sell 2 ITems
job@oversale.org says:
yes
job@oversale.org says:
Anyway you month salary is fixed 4000$
job@oversale.org says:
+ 500$ usd for using each account
job@oversale.org says:
means 4500$
Raphael says:
but i'm using 2 accounts though,
Raphael says:
do i have to use 2 accounts?
job@oversale.org says:
yes
job@oversale.org says:
You can see your directory. Each product folder also marked with your Ebay I.D. so you can know which product you will list on each account
Raphael says:
so
Raphael says:
could you tell me more about how to ship the items
Raphael says:
and after i sell item
Raphael says:
and stuff?
job@oversale.org says:
I will tell you the whole proccess in short. At your first month I will provide you full support and instructions on how to do..
job@oversale.org says:
After your first month you will work for yourself by working with your account
Raphael says:
yes,
job@oversale.org says:
1) You list the items acording the instructions in the products Info.txt file.
2) Once sale done you get a payment from a customer via Bank Transfer or Money Orders.
3) Once payment in your Bank account you will send it via Western Union to our financial managers.
4) In the next few hours we will made drop shipping from your name and address, so the customers will not think that you are a reseller
Raphael says:
what if they want to return their items?
Raphael says:
are there any return policies?
job@oversale.org says:
30 days Customer Satisfaction Refund
job@oversale.org says:
After 30 days Manufacture warranty of each product
Raphael says:
how do i proceed the return process
job@oversale.org says:
we will send you Western Union back so you will refund customer. but customer should return the goods to you!
job@oversale.org says:
We have only 2 such cases for the last 3 years. Once product you will have in hands our managers in US will call you and pick up it.
Raphael says:
can i have a telephone number of your company
job@oversale.org says:
740-205-6889
Raphael says:
is this for the company in russia?
job@oversale.org says:
yes we have US number, all calls will be redirected to our landline numbers in Russia.
job@oversale.org says:
We made this so our employees in USA will not pay for International phone fees
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Do you think this is a scam?

because, i think, after i sell an item , and after i get a payment from the buyer, and i send the money to "OverSale.org" via Western Union.

There is a possibility that they are not going to dropship the goods.

and i'll be in responsible for that shit, since i'm selling things with my E-bay Accounts.

hmmm?

help me.
 


Well, I would recommend doing more research on them first. But as I'm sure you saw, Googling them only gives 4 results.

I wouldn't risk it. They are not at all established. The domain is just a couple of months old, they don't have a PR or an Alexa rank yet (though those don't always mean much).

Also, the salary is way to high for a job as simple as making eBay listings.

I could go on and on. As you said, they are your eBay accounts so it is your responsibility to ensure the buyers get their goods. If they don't get shipped, you need to provide a refund to the buyer - after you have already sent the money to OverSale via Western Union.
 
It's definitely a scam. Russia, Western Union, you using your own account...yep, a scam.

What will happen:
  • They send you list of items to post
  • You post them on eBay
  • You get paid via PayPal, check, whatever
  • You Western Union them the money
  • They DO NOT send shit
  • You get the chargebacks and fraud problems
  • They made a ton of money and are completely safe in another country
 
It smells funky...the domain belongs to someone in the US (apparently). Call them up and see what the deal is using the whois # not the one they gave you :)
 
SHIT

i knew it!

i almost listed the items on e-bay.

and i asked them, that if there are any other ways to send the money other than WU .

and they ignored me.

so fuck ! AHHHHHH

Thank you!
 
funny shit,

there grammer is like shit, even though mine is pretty bad too.



job@oversale.org says:
If you will not list the items in the next 24 hours, we will cancel your employeement with us
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It sounds like a Nigerian scam to me. It'll be their own buyers. They'll send you a money order and you'll think you got the cash and then you western union them the money. By time you find out the money order is bad, you'll have already western union'd them them money.
 
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Yes, that looks similar to the check mule scam, where the scammer posts an ad in employment classifieds for "international buyer wanted", then someone sends you a fake check, you deposit in your bank, keep 10% and send them the rest. A couple weeks later some guys in black suits give you a ride to the nearest federal magistrate, and you're stuck having to prove that you are not the scammer.

It also could be part of a larger scam, where the scammer gets someone to buy a bunch of expensive electronic shit with stolen CC numbers, convinces someone in the US to take delivery, then have them ship somewhere else. SO the scam would go like this:

Step 1. this person :smokin: buys stuff on ebay with stolen CC numbers
Step 2. this person :hollering: takes delivery of the items
Step 3. this person :stonedsmilie: takes lists of items and puts on ebay, sell, deposit money and WU it to this guy :thefinger:
Step 4. :hollering: ships the items to buyers, who just happen to be :smokin:
Step 5. see step 1

All parties are being scammed by :thefinger:
they do not know each other, or what they are really doing. Until it's too late
 
To be honest, I'm kind of surprised you even gave this offer a second look.
 
It is a Scam, they get the money with Western Union, items don't get shipped and you get chargebacks..
 
Why do people keep posting to this thread that "it is a scam" when the OP has already said thanks and realizes that already?

Fail!
 
Scam for Sure

They did a story yesterday on the local news here, and it's the typical stuff you see regularly. The girl in the story signed up with a company to be a 'Mystery Shopper', buying products, filling out surveys and reporting back to the 'company'.

They sent her a counterfeit check (or money order, don't remember), she cashed it and used the cash to buy different products. Just a few hundred dollars worth or whatever it was, she then sent the remaining funds (from the $4,500 counterfeit check or money order) back to the 'company'.

Guess what happened then ? The bank calls a couple of weeks later and tells her the original check or money order is no good, and yes, she can keep the products, but she bought 'em, not the 'company'.

The Detective in the story said they believe most of these scams are still originating in Nigeria, and basically there's not a damn thing that they can do about it.

It was on the local news, but it looked to be a network story, and the interview of the girl was done in front of a Career Builder advertisement, so don't think if you find an offer on a creditable site, that it's guaranteed to be a legitimate offer.

If you get a check or money order, and have to send cash back...IT"S A SCAM!!

Some people are dishonest, there's even 'SOME' on the Internet.
 
BOTH MYSELF AND A FRIEND DECIDED TO TRY THIS GUYS METHOD OF DROP SHIPPING. TURNS OUT IT IS 100% A SCAM! HE DOES NOT SEND THE GOODS AND KEEPS THE MONEY. WHEN YOU TRY TO CONTACT HIM AFTERWARDS HE DOES NOT REPLY AT ALL. HE NEEDS TO BE STOPPED!

I BEG EVERYONE WHO SEE'S THIS NOT TO TRSUT THIS SCAM ARTIST, HE WILL TAKE YOUR MONEY AND DIGNITY.
 
I have dealt with this guy before, he takes your money and does not ship anything! I beg anyone who runs in to this guy to run as far away as possible as he will take your money and you will never hear from him again and you will have to deal with eBay feedback and PayPal disputes.
 
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