Get a payout increase by thinking like the advertiser

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Diorex

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If I still blogged, this would be a blog post, but I dont so...

Recently I have had quite a few conversations with people at different levels of the affiliate industry and it shocks me how little many of them understand the businesses they are representing and how they are focused on only their needs.

They all seem to want to focus on their payout and their metrics without concern for the metrics of the advertiser who pays them. I am not talking churn and burn guys either, these are guys earning hundreds of thousands a month in commission checks and who should know better. The important thing for any long term relationship is that it is beneficial to everyone involved.

If you are a lead gen guy, then you should care about the quality and source of your traffic and how many leads turn into actions. If you are selling subscriptions (think ringtones, blockbuster or diet pills) then the retention of the customer matters more than anything else. If you are repping physical goods, are your customers returning a lot of product or do they turn into long term customers or are they focused on lowest price only?

The reason this matters is that most advertisers have evolved past the stage of a transaction and now are looking at relationships. Lifetime Value of a customer is now much more than a buzzword it is how decisions are made.

If your leads close more loans, or stay on more billing cycles or otherwise are more profitable for your advertiser then that advertiser can and will reward you. Volume is important, but quality is a close second.

Too many guys tell me they cannot affect quality. That is because they are too lazy to try. Just like testing ad copy for the best CTR does not always generate the best conversion rate, the best conversion rate does not always mean the best value for your advertiser. It can be influenced, and thus should be measured and tested.

Ask your advertisers to share retention or lifetime value data with you. If you are important enough they will work with you. Ask for bonuses or revshares or other compensation above and beyond your current deal based on performance. When you share some of the risk of the value of the customer, you can share in a lot more of the upside.

In addition to increased payouts, it will get you firmly aligned with the interests of your advertiser which will lead to other things like first crack at marketing new products, or maybe the ability to harvest email addresses of your customers (not spammed, but lightly cross marketed to), or possibly receive additional revenue from cross sales (maybe the cross sale is another product you rep?). By aligning the relationship, you expand it and open up possibilities that never were available before.

Some of the guys who are making bank now are doing this, but many are not. The ones who are have a huge long-term advantage in terms of payout and relationship that the guys who are not will learn in time.

To date we have all been in the Wild West of internet marketing, but I am starting to see a shift where long term relationships matter, where the short sighted tactics of many affiliates is more harmful than helpful. A lot of people are making a lot of money, but what happens when the gravy train ends, you are a few years older and your marketable skills qualify you for an account managers job at an advertising agency making $65k.

Are you going to bank enough before the rules change? Think long-term, plan long term and then you will be in it for the long-term, rather than being a flash in the pan.

Just something I have been thinking about based on conversations at conferences and with other super-affiliates.
 


Great post.

It's funny when you realize just how many affiliates don't understand that industries evolve, and this one will as well.
 
+rep. Great read. It's so true how most affiliates just earn for today, and not for tomorrow.
 
Great post, spoken like a real Business man.

Large and small businesses plan years ahead and so survive and grow even when things get tough. I defo need to think more long term and not just get excited about what i'm making (or not making!)today

I think we can be like kids in a sweet shop grabbing here and there. I am all for building relationships because only good can come from it. However, its also true that affs get shafted and treated with disregard sometimes..
 
Hello

That is an excellent post and there is a lot of food for thought there. I think that at the bottom end of the scale a lot of people sign up for affiliate programs, give it a week or two see no returns and move onto the next program. Therefore people can get disillusioned and affiliate programs are then viewed in a negative light and not viewed as legitimate business models at all.

I have to say that I agree with everything you have said, things change all the time and marketers must adapt sooner rather than later. If they do not the coin will flip over and their business will suffer greatly.
 
Excellent read. The lessons here apply greatly to myself as an AM. Everything is in the relationship.

Taking the steps towards the advertiser's need for quality and customer retention will assist in generating specific and profitable campaigns for my affiliates. This is really the best tool I have as an AM in the battle for your guys' business.

++rep
 
I believe the premise of your post is correct, however I'm not sure how many people on this forum it applies to, honestly. You're talking about running an actual business, in a truer sense of the relationship than an affiliate.

If you have a close relationship directly with an advertiser yourself, I agree 100% with everything you've said, but you have to remember on this forum, 90% of the people are running the same types of campaigns (dating, ringtones, zip/email submits, etc) and rarely have that direct relationship that you're talking about. In most cases I doubt the networks the affiliates worth with have that close of a relationship.

Said differently, while everything you said is true, there really isn't any practical use for most traditional 'affiliates' as most are here at WF. Still, +rep for good information.
 
"your marketable skills qualify you for an account managers job at an advertising agency making $65k. "

its not about "marketable skills". anyone who's made a living as an affiliate has other skills: risk taking and entrepreneurship and those are what distinguish the 9-5ers from businessmen, not any particular technical skill. Chances are he'll never go back to 9-5.
 
Why are some places an absolute bitch to go direct then when you do they give you a payout 4x lower than what you're currently getting? Anyone want to explain this to me?
 
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