How long did it take you to make $50/day?

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You in NYC or Conn or where? Standard 2 and 20? Since options can be pretty crazy, do you guys have a beta to some index? I want to know how volatile you guys are.

I'm guessing somewhat low for the risks involved or the manager wouldn't have been able to raise a lot of $.
 


Im in saint louis and we charge 1.5 and 20. We do have a very low sharpe ratio but we dont campare ourselves to any index as there isnt much correlation postive or negative.
 
xcentrix said:
tangem,

How's naked shorting as a strategy these days?

lol,

x
Why not just give me the money? A directional trader is a soon to be broke trader in my experience with options trading. The tails are always fatter than the computer predicts.
 
stanley said:
my sister works at Goldman Sachs as one of those "super math/com sci/etc geeks"
the problem is I cant ask her anything about trading because she doesnt know. I'm hoping tangem can fill in the gaps :)

Got a picture? :cool-smiley-008:
 
Sorry to push the subject of the original post so far off subject Jon but you know how it is.
 
If he posts a pic I will tell him whatever he wants to know, presuming she is hot.
 
haha, none of that is important because she's married and currently on a 3 month long vacation travelling from Germany to Spain
 
I was just fucking with you anyway Stanley, if you have any real questions PM and I will answer them.
 
engaged said:
I didn't know GS bankers were allowed to sleep, much less go on vacation.
she's not in investment banking. She applies mathematical forumals to create trading algorithms for goldman sachs' funds.
Basically after 3 years of working at GS she told her management either they let her take a 3 month long vacation or she'll quit. Her husband did the same (he works at Mogran Stanley), so now they're in Europe until October.

anyway I like how the topic slowly changed to seeing pictures of my sister :D
 
stanley said:
haha, none of that is important because she's married and currently on a 3 month long vacation travelling from Germany to Spain

Does that mean she's not a MILF?
 
Hi Tandem

HF and financial services industry is notoriously difficult to get into if you don't have the connections or attend a "high-pedigree" school. I attend a state university. Any tips/pointers on how to get in?
 
Look for alumni who are in the business and try to use them to get yourself an internship and then work your ass off. Do any piss boy job they want you to do and act like its the most important job on the planet. Not all, but a lot of the Wharton kids try to act like they are above doing the piss boy work and it pisses the traders off and then they really give them a hard time. So when it comes time for the traders to make recomendations the bitchers dont make it. The floor is a good place to start as a runner for an internship because many of the floor operations dont give a shit if you even have a high school degree let alone an ivy degree, BUT and this is a big BUT, you better know your statistics. They will drill the shit out of you at the interviews. I felt like I was at a training camp for gamblers. What are the odds of drawing an ace of spades and a two of clubs in that order? How many minutes in three years? How many seconds in two years? And you better not take more than a second or two to answer them or the interview is over. Understand poker and the math of the game inside out. Every trader I worked with on the floor played poker non stop when we werent working. Then take the connections from the intership and try to get a postion upstairs if thats what you want or work on the floor for awhile, but dont stay to long though its slowly falling apart. Thats the best advice I can offer you, I hope it helps. And remember, you will be treated like the most worthless peice of shit on the planet by all traders, if you dont have tough skin you wont make it.
 
I honestly think that very, very few webmasters are earning more than $50 per day from affiliate marketing (that's $1,500 per month). Some months I make it to that level, and some months I don't. Some merchants and some networks don't pay me every month (Amazon is the big example); others deposit into my checking account every single month.

It's hard to say "how long it took" because I usually lump all "revenue" together, whether it is CPM-based advertising, Pay-Per-Click advertising or search panels, or affiliate earnings. I know I created my first web site in 1996, and I know that two years later I was earning $10,000 per month in combined advertising/PPC/affiliate revenue, but most of that was probably regular CPM advertising. Then I sold off my best "cash cow" web site in 1999, and most of that revenue went to the buyer of that site. I also sold several other web sites in 1999 and 2000, with more of my revenue passing to those buyers.

When I am busy with consulting work (as I am right now, serving as interim affiliate manager for QuoteProducts.com), my web sites generally lose traction and revenue. When I have free time, I enhance some sites and create other new sites, and the revenue ticks upward again.

Each of my active web sites has its own cycle now. One site focuses on teachers, and it will certainly generate $1,000 in affiliate earnings this month and probably again in September (it's back-to-school season). Some other sites are heavily retail/gift oriented, and thus they tend to earn more revenue in Oct-Nov-Dec than in the other 9 months combined.

Some of my revenue comes in bizarre spurts. Often, these spurts are caused by search engines: suddenly Google decides that it really likes one of my sites, and for a week or three I am seeing revenue from a bunch of motorcycle helmets or skin creams or iPod accessories. Then Google updates its index and that revenue slows to a trickle.
 
To go on with what tangem said: you are going to be a piece of shit on someone elses shoes no matter where you start in finance. Analyst or assoicate in IBanking, you're a POS, junior trader: POS. Get over it, you need to pay your dues. If you can't stick it out you aren't cut out for it.

If you have to ask how to get a HF job you aren't getting one anytime soon.
 
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