Newbie seo question

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Megido

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Would you try to rank for a keyword that has no competition (in quotes and allintitle) but the first 10 sites in google looks pretty intimidating? (Like a lot of backlinks, pr4+ and aged domains. But they don't target the specific keyword at all)

thanks in advance
 


days before, my colleague tried this out, one of the keywords he pushed was less competitive, and he didnt realized that at all. with very little effort, he found that he got that keyword phrase on the first page and forth result appeared on yahoo.com, totally unexpected -:)
 
I would suggest you to give it a try, if the top 10 sites in Google do not target the specific keywords. PR ranks comes secondary, and keyword comes before that. I would not like to try if the 1st page has Wikipedia, amazon or any such links for a closely related term.
 
i've never ried this but have noticed crappy adsense sites in amongst competition like this once or twice on market samurai. will be interesting to hear what some old hands have to say.
 
Try this quick test...

Why not just give it a try and test it out?

Try this:

Go to wordpress.com and put up a site with your keyphrase as the subdomain (username) ie yourkeyphrase.wordpress.com

Put a post up with some keyword heavy content on there with keyword anchor text pointing to whatever other site is relevant - this could be a link pointing to a wiki article or even an affiliate offer.

Take the rss feed (yourkeyphrase.wordpress.com/feed) from that new wordpress blog and submit it to a couple of rss aggregators like feedraider.com and feedage.com and feedagg.com

This will put your keyword heavy "test" on authority sites.

You'll get a good idea if you can rank on page one if you start to see either of these sites show up in the results... meaning your wordpress blog, or your feed from any of the aggregators.

Just go ahead and test it out... sometimes you can see it pop up in the results within a couple of hours.

Total time invested in sniffing out your competition: 30 min.

Let me know how it goes and if you need any clarification :)
 
bikramksingh said:
PR ranks comes secondary, and keyword comes before that.
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This is incorrect. There are literally hundreds of factors that determine your ranking in the serps. Just having a keyword in your title tag and comparing it to a Pr3 site that doesn't does not mean you're going to outrank them. Tho it is possible for a lower PR to outrank a higher one but you better have something they don't where google considers you more relevant.

To the OP:

You're looking at competition the wrong way. You can do "allinanchor" "allintitle"...etc and look at your competition that way (direct competition), but don't forget all those pages that are on the first page are still competition (raw competition) and just because they're not targeting that word doesn't mean you can outrank them. You should calculate your KEI/KOI and make a decision from there. If you don't know how google it.

Also what's the volume of your keyword? Google's algorithm is tailored so that the more volume your word has the harder it is to get to page 1...we've seen this from 1st hand experience. You could get a word with 500 searches a month to page 1 with "no competition" easily if you do some basic SEO, but if your word has 10k/mo volume or more it's going to be a steeper evaluation from google before it plops you on page 1.

All in all you do have competition and if they're on page 1 for your word then google considers them to be relevant for that word and if they have good PR/domain age/backlinking etc....it's not gonna be a walk in the park.
 
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