Totally Blackhat on AdWords ... Not

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so, i wanted to pull this totally blackhat adwords stunt:

1.) why fight adwords qs, if someone else did it already?
1.a.) setup a nice domain for your particular business, like e.g. "topringtonedownloads.com"

2.) search in google, who bids on "download ringtones" and
2.a.) write down his adcopy
2.b.) do a 305 (moved permanently) redirect "topringtonedownloads.com" to their site

3.) open up a ppc campaign in adwords,
3.a.) target url / display url = "topringtonedownloads.com"

and here the party is over, because when adwords should normally suggest the keywords based on your site (which is now in fact the site i redirect to), the suggestions remain EMPTY.

adwords doesn't accepts a redirect as it seems, or where is my flaw in doing the perfect redirect without google noticing that i am doing one? because google should suggest words like "download ringtones" at this point, and not nothing.< thi just shows me, that my qs will not get any better than if i would use my pages instead of the leading ones.

thanks!
 
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cyberworkspace said:
so, i wanted to pull this totally blackhat adwords stunt:

1.) why fight adwords qs, if someone else did it already?
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Because its easy to win that fight. Quite frankly if you can't figure this out.... You're never gonna succeed. Don't skip fucking steps. Spend a couple days and figure it out. READ. READ. READ. TEST. TEST. TEST.

Quit being fucktarded.
 
JennyAppleseed said:
Because its easy to win that fight. Quite frankly if you can't figure this out.... You're never gonna succeed. Don't skip fucking steps. Spend a couple days and figure it out. READ. READ. READ. TEST. TEST. TEST.

Quit being fucktarded.
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i didn't asked for your fucking meaningless opinion, i asked for how to do the redirect so that google wouldn't know. by saying "quit skipping fucking steps" you clearly showed, that you have not understood my real intent at all, because this is not about testinbg, this is about KNOWING.

so, you either KNOW how it is done and say so, or you shut the fuck up and go testing if your buttplug fits.
 
bamboo said:
hah good laugh
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stop spamming my post and laughing like an idiot about jokes that are none.
got anything to say on topic?

so, to wrap it up: does a 301 not work with adwords?

a 301 should by definition be search engine friendly. why isn't it in this case?
 
cyberworkspace said:
so, i wanted to pull this totally blackhat adwords stunt:

1.) why fight adwords qs, if someone else did it already?
1.a.) setup a nice domain for your particular business, like e.g. "topringtonedownloads.com"

2.) search in google, who bids on "download ringtones" and
2.a.) write down his adcopy
2.b.) do a 305 (moved permanently) redirect "topringtonedownloads.com" to their site

3.) open up a ppc campaign in adwords,
3.a.) target url / display url = "topringtonedownloads.com"

and here the party is over, because when adwords should normally suggest the keywords based on your site (which is now in fact the site i redirect to), the suggestions remain EMPTY.

adwords doesn't accepts a redirect as it seems, or where is my flaw in doing the perfect redirect without google noticing that i am doing one? because google should suggest words like "download ringtones" at this point, and not nothing.< thi just shows me, that my qs will not get any better than if i would use my pages instead of the leading ones.

thanks!
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you should know the way google checks your website is not the same for QS bot and the quick scan from the keyword suggestion.
 
JennyAppleseed said:
Quit being a bitch and TEST it out.
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you must be like the fucking most stupid member in this forum. i clearly wrote, that i did test it. now i need to know whether anyone shares my observation and knows WHY it is as it is. you dumbshit obviously know nothing as you are even not able to read properly and reply to my question in a manner that would qualify as an answer at all.

Mason said:
you should know the way google checks your website is not the same for QS bot and the quick scan from the keyword suggestion.
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finally someone replying and not treating this post as if it where in the shooting the shit section.

that is important news to me, as i thought, all the mechanisms of google checking my site would ultimately be the same bot.

ok, so can someone else confirm, that there is

a) a "keyword"-suggestion scan and
b) a "qs"-bot run

which are fundamentally different from each other?

still then, why would the quick keyword scan return an empty resultset after a 301/305-redirect?
 
Hmm, you should check your server logs? There should be a mark of every request server gets so you can identify pretty easily if there's multiple visits.
 
micfire said:
Hmm, you should check your server logs? There should be a mark of every request server gets so you can identify pretty easily if there's multiple visits.
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that would hold true, if anywhere in that chain, that i described, anything like a server of mine would be involved at all. but guess what? it isn't.

why? because, as i wrote, i am doing a 301 from my domain hosting company to another page, which is also not mine.

then again, this is also not about multiple visits, which for sure would happen, but about the source of the visits, which needs to be identifiyable as different google bots.
 
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