webmasters all the time get wrapped up in trying to take care of their own server and it does hinder their ability to make money if they are constantly worrying about their server. There are hosting companies that take that worry out of your life, and the only thing you need to worry about is uploading your content.
Vps or shared?
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webmasters all the time get wrapped up in trying to take care of their own server and it does hinder their ability to make money if they are constantly worrying about their server. There are hosting companies that take that worry out of your life, and the only thing you need to worry about is uploading your content.
You are a stupid.
But what do you say? Taking care of my own server is useless?
I optimize my sites not only my own server,
my sites perform faster and quickly then more money.
For example I absolutely want on my server Varnish Cache, how many providers give me this by default?
Run Putty, open SSH session and install Varnish Cache, simply minutes.
VPS also shares the resources. 1000 visitors can be handled with a shared account with no problem (from decent providers).
On the other hand, VPS do not cost that much so if you have problems with loading times or too many visitors to handle, switch to one and problem solved. For now, shared account is ok
On the other hand, VPS do not cost that much so if you have problems with loading times or too many visitors to handle, switch to one and problem solved. For now, shared account is ok
You are a stupid.
But what do you say? Taking care of my own server is useless?
I optimize my sites not only my own server,
my sites perform faster and quickly then more money.
For example I absolutely want on my server Varnish Cache, how many providers give me this by default?
Run Putty, open SSH session and install Varnish Cache, simply minutes.
Then you are the client who doesnt need or want a fully managed server. Simple!
There are many more webmasters who do need it and the stuff you want installed, a managed host will do it for you in a fast and efficient manner.
now move on.
A fully managed server doesn't mean that I can't install my necessary stuff on it.
"fully managed server" means that you don't have to physically manage it,
I don't want to think about power supply, hardware upgrades, networks issues, but software is vital
I have been moving on for years....
Then you too do not need or want a fully managed server. Like I said, a majority of webmasters do like the luxury of not worrying about anything but uploading websites, a managed host does that for you. Like the OP stated he has "no clue" about running a server, he is perfect fit for a fully managed host, while you on the other hand are not as you like to do things yourself, to each their own.
I'm done arguing with you as I don't think you will ever get it.
Im sick and tired about all updates , security things and fucking problems on vps or dedicated server. Nothing could be comfortable as shared hosting.
Don't tell me plesk is good! No its fucking stupid software , at last cpanel is good and realiable , Im paying 3 hostgator packages , I shared my last dedicated to them and it works fine (till yesterday). So I got 100$ bucks in my pocket and I got nearly 30-40k hits on one shared.
But vps is really good thing if you are good on manage servers , you can upgrade anytime your server without any downtime.Not like dedicated..
wait till your cpu ups to %10 at hostgator
Don't tell me plesk is good! No its fucking stupid software , at last cpanel is good and realiable , Im paying 3 hostgator packages , I shared my last dedicated to them and it works fine (till yesterday). So I got 100$ bucks in my pocket and I got nearly 30-40k hits on one shared.
But vps is really good thing if you are good on manage servers , you can upgrade anytime your server without any downtime.Not like dedicated..
wait till your cpu ups to %10 at hostgator
unfortunately dreamhost started selling unlimited storage on vps plans, which potentially could drive the vps market to shit, at least for those well known large and cheap shared hosting providers that decide to offer vps plans too.
I hope most vps customers are smart enough to look for vps plans with limited resources.
Don't buy VPS just to learn how to manage a server. Take your $20 down to the thrift store and buy some crappy old PC (unless you already have one in the basement). Then install...
--Linux (I started with Slackware - don't pick something that's going to hold your hand too much)
--SQL (PostgreSQL unless you're a chump, then go with MySQL
)
--Apache
--Figure out how to update your software
--...
Just keep going, find a problem then figure out how to solve it. Whatever you do, don't install X - it'll rot your brain.
As to when you need a VPS for production use... Whatever these other guys say. They know more about that than I do.
--Linux (I started with Slackware - don't pick something that's going to hold your hand too much)
--SQL (PostgreSQL unless you're a chump, then go with MySQL
)--Apache
--Figure out how to update your software
--...
Just keep going, find a problem then figure out how to solve it. Whatever you do, don't install X - it'll rot your brain.
As to when you need a VPS for production use... Whatever these other guys say. They know more about that than I do.
Don't buy VPS just to learn how to manage a server. Take your $20 down to the thrift store and buy some crappy old PC (unless you already have one in the basement). Then install...
--Linux (I started with Slackware - don't pick something that's going to hold your hand too much)
--SQL (PostgreSQL unless you're a chump, then go with MySQL
--Apache
--Figure out how to update your software
--...
Just keep going, find a problem then figure out how to solve it. Whatever you do, don't install X - it'll rot your brain.
As to when you need a VPS for production use... Whatever these other guys say. They know more about that than I do.
Yeah, that's so much easier than spending a few bucks on a VPS that you can reload an OS on in under a minute after fucking it up.
Yeah, that's so much easier than spending a few bucks on a VPS that you can reload an OS on in under a minute after fucking it up.
You're right. It's not easier. It's much harder - and that's the point. I believe you learn better by smashing your face against a problem until the solution becomes clear. At least I learn better than way. If I had a cPanel button to bail me out of every jamb when I was starting with linux, I wouldn't have learned much at all.
If you need something running that you are going to make money on, I wouldn't suggest using a thrift store 386 and a crappy DSL connection. But for learning, I think it's the way to go.
Buy managed vps , shared hosting doesnt give any guarentee for ram and cpu. You will cry when your all website blowed up. ( I did 3 days ago) I lost alot of bucks more than vps value. Dont be mean go buy best as you can.
Managed vps will handle all your resources, dont worry about updates cpanel will do it for you.
I bought hostgator vps now its kinda good they did everything for me.
Managed vps will handle all your resources, dont worry about updates cpanel will do it for you.
I bought hostgator vps now its kinda good they did everything for me.
VPS is much better for the above reasons. I am not sure if it was mentioned, but you usually also get multiple IPs. If your not into server admin, opt for managed vps servers. I just purchased the basic managed VPS from ServInt yesterday and I got it setup today. They had a first 3 months for half off special plus 10% off the entire year if you pay in full. My total for 1 year was $437 (36 per month) and they told me I could receive a prorated credit for the unused months if I wanted out.
1and1, hostgator i have heard are shit for vps
futurehost, knownhost, servint, wiredtree (although there was a thread here recently that said they were down) are the most popular
1and1, hostgator i have heard are shit for vps
futurehost, knownhost, servint, wiredtree (although there was a thread here recently that said they were down) are the most popular
If you aren't exactly a profession at linux server administration then hostwinds would be a good fit for you. I can help with all the setup and make sure that you get everything you need
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