I think PrimaryAds is about to screw me.. Please advise

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I now how a similar problem like Threejuice this time it's with PrimaryAds.

I joined primaryads.com late November and I did well with their AFF CPA offer ($3.75 per free register) so i decided to give it a full push in December.

On Dec 27th I got the e-mail below:

date Dec 27, 2006 11:42 AM subject PrimaryAds - Adult Friend Finder
David,

I hope all is well. We were checking stats on Adult Friend Finder and the advertiser has no record of your leads coming in. We also found that you are framing the landing page which is a violation of our terms and conditions.

We need to fix the tracking immediately and the framing is the main problem why it's not tracking properly. We also will have a very hard time collecting money from the advertiser because of this. I would strongly advise to pull your traffic immediately.

Let me know if you have any questions.
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Then on Jan 3rd I got the email below:

date Jan 3, 2007 10:10 AM subject PrimaryAds - Adult Friend Finder

David,​

We had to take down Adult Friend Finder effective today (1-3-07), the offer is still not tracking properly and we can't leave it up on the network any longer.​

We did redirect it to Eroticy. Let me know if you have any questions.​

Thanks,​
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I had no problem with my November payout so I thought that every thing should be ok with my December payout, I just received my check today and I noticed that over 80% of my check was deducted.

I Immediately contacted my PrimaryAds account manager via AIM and and here is what he stated:

davidschomb (9:15:19 AM): hi
mattprimaryads (9:15:25 AM): hey</I>
davidschomb (9:15:36 AM): i just got my dec check
davidschomb (9:15:53 AM): and it was 80% less than what i expected
davidschomb (9:16:19 AM): i made over 5k in dec and yet i only got $1158
davidschomb (9:16:55 AM): i checked my stats and it looks like you removed many of my aff leads
mattprimaryads (9:18:39 AM): acct number?</I>
davidschomb (9:18:50 AM): 3593
davidschomb (9:21:46 AM): i had over 1500 leads and now i only see 301
mattprimaryads (9:24:23 AM): what offers were you running?</I>
mattprimaryads (9:24:26 AM): that you saw the drop?</I>
davidschomb (9:24:31 AM): aff
davidschomb (9:24:52 AM): the drop was only on that offer
mattprimaryads (9:26:48 AM): oh I remember</I>
mattprimaryads (9:26:54 AM): that was in regards to Adult Friend Finder</I>
mattprimaryads (9:27:00 AM): remember the problems with that</I>
mattprimaryads (9:27:14 AM): they wouldn't pay us on the traffic because of the framing the landing page</I>
davidschomb (9:27:28 AM): yes you sent me a e-mail that you stopped working with them due to tracking problems
davidschomb (9:29:24 AM): I was not informed that over 80% of my leads will get cleared
mattprimaryads (9:30:29 AM): oh, it was everything</I>
mattprimaryads (9:30:33 AM): or a lot of it</I>
mattprimaryads (9:30:43 AM): they had basically no records of your leads</I>
mattprimaryads (9:30:51 AM): because the framing messed everything up</I>
mattprimaryads (9:31:01 AM): then we had to drop the offer</I>
mattprimaryads (9:31:05 AM): because of these problems</I>
mattprimaryads (9:31:12 AM): we didn't get paid from them </I>
mattprimaryads (9:31:15 AM): on a lot of stuff</I>
davidschomb (9:31:54 AM): I am in lose I made less than my ppc expence
mattprimaryads (9:32:28 AM): oh so are we</I>
mattprimaryads (9:32:34 AM): we took a major loss as well</I>
davidschomb (9:33:51 AM): their is no way they will ever pay you?
mattprimaryads (9:34:19 AM): we may get a collection agency after them</I>
mattprimaryads (9:35:03 AM): I know bud, this was tough for us</I></I>
davidschomb (9:35:11 AM): how much do they still need to pay you?
mattprimaryads (9:35:16 AM): a lot</I>
davidschomb (9:35:31 AM): they didn't pay for everyone?
mattprimaryads (9:35:32 AM): not 6 figures</I>
mattprimaryads (9:35:35 AM): but a lot</I>
mattprimaryads (9:35:42 AM): once this problem creeped up</I>
mattprimaryads (9:35:50 AM): it brought others</I>
mattprimaryads (9:36:00 AM): and then no payment</I>
mattprimaryads (9:36:09 AM): so big problems </I>
mattprimaryads (9:36:25 AM): but the problem with your page was</I>
mattprimaryads (9:36:35 AM): framing has to get approved</I>
mattprimaryads (9:36:41 AM): and they said yours wasn't approved</I>
davidschomb (9:37:09 AM): did other affiliates get paid less for that offer?
mattprimaryads (9:39:13 AM): no one got paid</I>
mattprimaryads (9:40:02 AM): I will be back shortly

My account manager stated that everyone had payout problems with the aff offer, I want to know if members of this forum had a similar problem like me with PrimaryAds or am I the only one that got screwed?
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I would go post this everywhere and not work with either PrimaryAds or Adult Friend Finder....

Go post on Abestweb, Earner's Forum, Digital Point, etc.
 
It sucks if they wouldn't pay you just because of framing (hey, if you brought them a customer, you brought them a customer!), but it sounds like no one got paid, framing or not...
 
darkdrift said:
Dude, PrimaryAds is horrible, thats all I need to say.
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...says the guy who has been kicked out of more networks than a heroin addict kicked out of more methodone clinics, but I agree. PrimaryAds is shit, and they should be black balled by all affiliates as far as I'm concerned for their shitty business practices.
 
dshumb said:
Where can I find your blacklist?
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We'll be posting it up soon.

There are only 2 companies on there so far..

CJ
PrimaryAds

Definitely going to start adding more though, as we get a ton of people bitching about other networks and programs.
 
smaxor said:
I would go post this everywhere and not work with either PrimaryAds or Adult Friend Finder....

Go post on Abestweb, Earner's Forum, Digital Point, etc.
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Do you think it will help if I post the same thread in other forums? or do you think PrimaryAds wont give a shit?
 
dshumb said:
Do you think it will help if I post the same thread in other forums? or do you think PrimaryAds wont give a shit?
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start thinking for yourself, this is a no brainer, if you commit yourself to it, action can happen, if you dont, then it won't . your never going to get anywhere in life relying on other people to tell you what decisions to make...fuckin shit
 
dshumb said:
Do you think it will help if I post the same thread in other forums? or do you think PrimaryAds wont give a shit?
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probably won't help you get your $ but will warn others.

as someone else said, why not go straight to AFF? they pay like clockwork.
 
Cool1g said:
probably won't help you get your $ but will warn others.

as someone else said, why not go straight to AFF? they pay like clockwork.
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You can make much more money with free register leads ($3.75 per lead) rather than getting paid $0.10 or $0.40 if you go direct and a very low percentage of the free registers will actually pay for their memberships.
 
dshumb said:
You can make much more money with free register leads ($3.75 per lead) rather than getting paid $0.10 or $0.40 if you go direct and a very low percentage of the free registers will actually pay for their memberships.
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hmmm...well AFF has been in business for a LONG time and they know what they are doing.

sometimes if payouts are too good to be true, they just shave off legit sales and pay you less as it appears to have happened here.
 
Cool1g said:
hmmm...well AFF has been in business for a LONG time and they know what they are doing.

sometimes if payouts are too good to be true, they just shave off legit sales and pay you less as it appears to have happened here.
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Watch your leads / traffic closely during contest months. Or just send your traffic somewhere that doesn't suck.
 
smaxor said:
I would go post this everywhere and not work with either PrimaryAds or Adult Friend Finder....

Go post on Abestweb, Earner's Forum, Digital Point, etc.
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Adult Friend Finder is a VERY reputable organization. I have worked with them for years, and earn about 2k per month with them on revenue share. Their affiliate support is second to none also. If anyone is at fault, I would point the finger at PrimaryAds. I just submitted my application with them today, so maybe I will reconsider pushing their offers. I would suggest signing up with AFF directly if you are looking to promote that type of offer. If you want to signup, please PM me and ill send ya my link (I will also throw in some goodies which will help increase conversions by 50%).
 
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