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Not really, but I do have a stoopid newb question or 2..

Very new to all this, just getting my head around the whole concept and the many different avenues that can be taken.

Just finished first site a couple weeks ago, and have 3 more almost completed. mostly micro niche adsense sites, and one I'm aiming to be more of a brandable, long term asset. Have no Idea wtf I'm doing with it, just seemed to be the smart thing to do. In over my head for sure, but that's for another thread.

I realize that niche adsense sites are what most newbs go for and I'm sure there are better routes, but after building a few and realizing how quickly, easily, and relatively cheaply you could build multiples by outsourcing content and seo--it seems like the obvious direction to go in. maybe i'm wrong?

My question is: Would it make sense to start off with 2 separate adsense accounts from the beginning? say alternate each new site between each account? I understand that the google ban is an issue that needs to be addressed with mfas, why not start from the beginning? Is that pointless?

I'm not expecting to make long term mfa money but I will sure as hell try. my goal is to use adsense sites to get started and progress from there, but no reason to not try to milk everything I can out of it.

Opinions?

 

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I'll be honest, there's a lot less penis in this thread than I thought there would be.

 

[DanWesson]

^Thread left you flaccid and hoping for more?

OP, don't try to go too deep too fast. Just focus on getting your handful of sites built out with some quality content, and start the process of trying to develop your seo strategy. In fact, go build as many links as you can manually first, just so you know the process of getting a link in various places and from different types of sites before paying for too many services you may not understand.

And, no, I would not bother with trying to get 2 adsense accounts early on. Keep your workload focused on a small number of sites in the beginning, probably better to just do one if you can...two if you need a diversion. Just don't try to get ahead of the learning curve because you won't be able to.

 

[eServeBPO]

Agree with Dan, stick to the basics and start small. It can sometimes feel like your getting bored with just one or two sites but you need to focus everything you have on them and get them off the ground before moving on to another site.

As for Adsense, just get the one account and if you continue doing everything the whitehat way you will have nothing to worry about.

 

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take it slow? im sure that's probably good advice, but I really can't see working only 1 or 2 sites at a time. It almost seems easier to work in smaller batches, especially if they are all from similar niches.

I realize quality should be a priority rather than quantity, but at first, to get some $ coming in--fuck it.

also, is purchasing links considered blackhat? I assume it is, just wanted to double check.

 

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what about: 1 whitehat acct, and 1 blackhat acct?

abuse the shit out of one, and take it slow, and learn the basics with the other. hopefully when the blackhat acct is blasted, I should be in decent position my alternate acct. hedge my bet.

 

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and if purchasing links is blackhat, then why doesn't G just nuke site like BLGenie?

 

[kakaboo]

and if purchasing links is blackhat, then why doesn't G just nuke site like BLGenie?

It would cause more chaos than solve the problem.. imagining everyone buying sites like BLGenie just to nuke their competitors..

and anyway I dont think 1 site would be boring.. its more than enough to keep your hands full if you are doing everything manually yourself. Updating site with content + writing articles for backlinks would easily take up 1-3 hours of your time everyday if you are taking the SEO route

 

[namertero]

Penis penis.....Op what do you wanna say ?

 

[DanWesson]

take it slow? im sure that's probably good advice, but I really can't see working only 1 or 2 sites at a time. It almost seems easier to work in smaller batches, especially if they are all from similar niches.

I realize quality should be a priority rather than quantity, but at first, to get some $ coming in--fuck it.

also, is purchasing links considered blackhat? I assume it is, just wanted to double check.

You said in OP you're real new to it all. You don't have the skills to build sites and rank them yet, so how do you expect to make money with twenty crappy little sites sitting on page three?
If SEO was a sport, you wouldn't expect to be playing in the NFL until you've put in the time at all the lower levels. That's how you learn, and if you make a mistake on one site, fine...make that mistake on 30 sites? That's a fucking headache...I've been there. You're going to make mistakes, so get yourself two or three (or five) different sandboxes to fuck shit up in.

If you still want to go all-in right off the bat, at least have the sense to not come back to the forum and post a panic thread about how you were on page one, and then suddenly dropped back to ten.

 

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You said in OP you're real new to it all. You don't have the skills to build sites and rank them yet, so how do you expect to make money with twenty crappy little sites sitting on page three?
If SEO was a sport, you wouldn't expect to be playing in the NFL until you've put in the time at all the lower levels. That's how you learn, and if you make a mistake on one site, fine...make that mistake on 30 sites? That's a fucking headache...I've been there. You're going to make mistakes, so get yourself two or three (or five) different sandboxes to fuck shit up in.

If you still want to go all-in right off the bat, at least have the sense to not come back to the forum and post a panic thread about how you were on page one, and then suddenly dropped back to ten.

ok. that makes sense.

i will heed the advice to a degree. thanks for taking the time to post up.

could you clarify on what you mean by saying get a couple sandboxes?

 

[DanWesson]

The word sandboxes was intended as a metaphor for sites...a place to play with stuff. I meant you put together a few different types of sites to try different tactics, layouts, and linking strategies on. The more you test, the faster you figure things out and what works for your specific goals. You can scale your successes, but you have to walk before you run.

 

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The word sandboxes was intended as a metaphor for sites...a place to play with stuff. I meant you put together a few different types of sites to try different tactics, layouts, and linking strategies on. The more you test, the faster you figure things out and what works for your specific goals. You can scale your successes, but you have to walk before you run.

I thought that you meant sandbox figuratively, but have read the term used in other references so thought I'd ask.

Ok, so I will take three sites and work them, add content and learn about different link building strategies.

But what's the downside to having another adsense account with 10 generic adsense sites and throwing a link service at it? Is that not trying different tactics?

lol you're probably getting frustrated by now..I understand what you're saying and will use it. I just feel like after reading about this shit for hundreds of hours, I understand how it's done. I am new to this, but I can kill some research. I have a fuck ton to learn I'm sure, but mostly technical things, and processes, conceptually-- I think I've got it. Not the whole thing yet, but this adsense bullshit, I could systemize the fuck out of it.

thanks again for the advice man.

 

[DanWesson]

I thought that you meant sandbox figuratively, but have read the term used in other references so thought I'd ask.

Ok, so I will take three sites and work them, add content and learn about different link building strategies.

But what's the downside to having another adsense account with 10 generic adsense sites and throwing a link service at it? Is that not trying different tactics?

lol you're probably getting frustrated by now..I understand what you're saying and will use it. I just feel like after reading about this shit for hundreds of hours, I understand how it's done. I am new to this, but I can kill some research. I have a fuck ton to learn I'm sure, but mostly technical things, and processes, conceptually-- I think I've got it. Not the whole thing yet, but this adsense bullshit, I could systemize the fuck out of it.

thanks again for the advice man.

Understand that reading and doing are two different things. Read one hour and DO for two hours. Also, keep in mind many tactics you read about are already on their way out or already dead in terms of effectiveness, especially the stuff put out by "gurus". This is why you have to figure things out on your own.

As for downsides to having two adsense accounts, maybe none, maybe you get them banned. It's not really needed until you get a lot of sites or you want to try stuff against Google's TOS. In that case, though, you still run the risk of losing both of them.

Also, I was just hearing that G is manually reviewing new pub's site before accepting into the program, so I wouldn't show them a thin site with crappy, outsourced articles written in broken English.

I haven't checked in awhile, but I recall that G allows 2 accounts per household, but one per person. You can get past this if you set up a business entity under a different address and tax ID, but it's still a risk. As a n00b, you should minimize your risk (at least with the programs you intend to earn from) until you have some money coming in, then you can start testing the edges of things. Adsense bans are permanent, though, and are a royal pain to try to get around with different accounts. You need different personal info, likely a whole new machine to log in from, etc. Too much hassle, and unless you're a big baller like clyde :batman:, not worth it, IMO. There are easier ways to make money than trying to fuck with Google.

You're going to be fine, especially if you try to follow the rules starting out. It's exciting getting started and counting all the money you expect to make based on bullshit you read online. Between idea and execution is a vast chasm that most aren't able to cross. Keep in mind your vision, don't quit when things get hard, and I'll bet you make plenty of money to test all those other ideas swirling around in you head. :rainfro:

 

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You're going to be fine, especially if you try to follow the rules starting out. It's exciting getting started and counting all the money you expect to make based on bullshit you read online. Between idea and execution is a vast chasm that most aren't able to cross. Keep in mind your vision, don't quit when things get hard, and I'll bet you make plenty of money to test all those other ideas swirling around in you head. :rainfro:

fucking genuine post, it does't fall on deaf ears (blind eyes?).

I train/coach people in a completely unrelated area, and am always amazed when people aren't receptive to the very advice they are asking for.

I guess I just saw a shortcut, but alas, as with all of life--there are none.

I will focus on the site I believe has the most potential. I guess I really need to put some serious effort into learning copy, if I want to have some long term possibilities in this.

back to to John Caples.