This might be my last contract - SEO

I couldn't be fucked to read the whole thread but I can tell you this.

20 million PROPERLY optimized and indexed pages should be pulling down 15k visitors even without links. That's so much internal juice generated, not to mention the domain-wide metrics of having 20 million pages.

Let me guess, you work for Ezine Articles?

This is what happens when you let "SEO's" optimize the articles they submit.
 


thehobbster said:
Let me guess, you work for Ezine Articles?
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I am thinking the "client" picked up a domain that was once an article directory.
Anyone remember which google update that hit the article directories?


@Mark Lee; Without even looking at the site, the site needs to be trimmed down and focused. Goals need to be outlined on what type of traffic you want and how you plan on turning those visitors into money.
 
Mark Lee said:
The on page optimization is actually good.


About the client:
I choosed to work with him because in the country I live cost of living is much lower than US and he is a local client. If he see real results he will bring me much more customers by his connections. I told him the budget is too low repeatedly but he won't increase it.


I also don't understand why some of you are mocking me :) I'm saying what the clients say, and I choosed to work with him because of future benefits
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I dont know shit about seo for the most part but I can dial in your decision making issue right there.

People need to really understand that the promise of future work is complete fucking bullshit.

Tell this guy to go choke on a big fat fucking cock.

You get paid what your worth .....always. There might be a discount for high volume customers but you have to actually reach the high volume threshold.

Tell that motherfucker that.
 
retraCC said:
Next time, post this nonsense in the newbie section.
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That would be good advice if people actually read the newbie section anymore. People don't even read T&C these days.

OP, does your client have a physical business? Are these general articles, or all targeting a specific niche? Is this a side business for him? How does he make money? Is it purely this site? And finally, does this domain have any age/PR/authority etc behind it?
 
That would be good advice if people actually read the newbie section anymore. People don't even read T&C these days.

OP, does your client have a physical business? Are these general articles, or all targeting a specific niche? Is this a side business for him? How does he make money? Is it purely this site? And finally, does this domain have any age/PR/authority etc behind it?
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Thanks Joe, that's exactly why I created the topic here.

-Client is a LLC that has only online businesses.
-Articles are targeting a very big niche so it's like general.
-Side business I think. Client told me that he knows the site really have potential because he did a similar successful project in past, in a different niche.
-He makes money by selling online ads only. He has other sites.
-The domain is great i think (it is like findarticle.me) and registered 6 years ago. 0 backlinks = 1 moz authority. The site recieved 150 visitors/day yesterday from google. It has launched 1 week ago.


If I just show the client a solid increase in the traffic, I'm sure he will increase the budget. Otherwise it means he is just stupid as hell. I know relatives of the client and he is certainly not stupid. I have friends who worked with him and I have a pretty good idea of his personality. Of course If I were living in US, I would stay away from him.
 
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Advise him to take his shitty ass website off the internet. I bet there isn't one piece of useful information on any of those 20 million pages.
 
retraCC said:
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What a terribly unfunny response.
 
Mark Lee said:
that would require professionality (safely ranking tons of long tails with little budget)
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rofl.

budget and professionalism don't exist in the same sentence you goat fucker.

you're dumb, gang ban this fucker.
 
Vadym said:
rofl.

budget and professionalism don't exist in the same sentence you goat fucker.

you're dumb, gang ban this fucker.
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Banning all new people is a great way to keep this place alive.

Mark Lee said:
Thanks Joe, that's exactly why I created the topic here.

-Client is a LLC that has only online businesses.
-Articles are targeting a very big niche so it's like general.
-Side business I think. Client told me that he knows the site really have potential because he did a similar successful project in past, in a different niche.
-He makes money by selling online ads only. He has other sites.
-The domain is great i think (it is like findarticle.me) and registered 6 years ago. 0 backlinks = 1 moz authority. The site recieved 150 visitors/day yesterday from google. It has launched 1 week ago.


If I just show the client a solid increase in the traffic, I'm sure he will increase the budget. Otherwise it means he is just stupid as hell. I know relatives of the client and he is certainly not stupid. I have friends who worked with him and I have a pretty good idea of his personality. Of course If I were living in US, I would stay away from him.
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Ok. I was thinking maybe if it had some existing authority, was niche targeted, etc, then you could narrow it down, keep some of the worthwhile stuff, and push the rest onto a buffer site, but it doesn't seem like that's the case.

Personally, I think you have two options here.

1. Give him the name of a few of the SEO firms that are constantly spamming my inbox, promising #1 rankings for $300. Tell him to let you know when he wants to take the site seriously. This would be my preferred option. Trying to do this for $1000 a month is just going to burn bridges, and it's going to fuck up your reputation.

2. If you don't care about burning bridges with this guy/his family/his friends, do some onsite, and then blast with blog comments etc. May fuck things up, may go well. It's a gamble.

As I said, I'd personally go with option 1, and as others have said, work on your sales skills. Your writing quality is fine, you have the internet at your fingertips, if the people in your country are cheapskates (which, chances are, they're not, you're just dealing with the wrong people), then do work for people in other countries.
 
Good news. I convinced the guy to set $3000 budget instead of $1000. Thank you everyone, especially those who made suggestions about ranking long tails!
 
Mark Lee said:
Good news. I convinced the guy to set $3000 budget instead of $1000. Thank you everyone, especially those who made suggestions about ranking long tails!
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Mark,

I was happy to give you a second chance after violating our NDA, but if you reread the email I sent over you will see that you misread $3000 as $30.

Good day.
 
Mark Lee said:
So you forget to put dot between zeros?
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Hello Mark,

About 17 million of my site's pages are now on the third page of google. You do very good work. Please check your odesk account for the $3 bonus I sent you and please don't spend it all at once.

Good day.
 
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