What is Wickedfire worth?

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The old 16million dollar offer came out of a misunderstanding where the buyer thought that Jon would sell the entire company that WickedFire was/is just a part of.

As far as a selling price goes, how would any of us really know? We really don't have any solid numbers to base judgment off of, so we'd just be drawing assumptions. Get someone here to give you some numbers to look at, then factor in your personal value. At least then, you'll be making your judgments on a somewhat factual platform.
 


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Do you know Jon at all? Dumbass.

No. And I got your dumbass dangling right here. But if it wasn't about the money, he wouldn't charge money for access to info. And if it was just about keeping the retards out, then charge a nominal fee - so yeah - it is about the money. Fuck mouth.

LOL

So how would you calculate v7n's worth, Einstein ?

You rode the short bus, right? How would I calculate v7n's worth? I suppose I would base it on the BIN value attached to it by the owner when he posted it for sale on Sitepoint, with revenue figures and stats. Any other questions? Nice twelfth post, BTW.
 
there are some sites that can be worth more than a simple 10x or 15x monthly earning valuation. Do you think that GooGle based its buying price of youtube or feedburner on 10x their monthly revenue?

Some sites have a thing called potential. A forum like WF gets you noticed by people that need to take notice. Joint ventures, exclusive deals, speaking slots things like that. Consider the fact that a banner for any affiliate program would get 100's of sign-ups from the many uberaffiliates on this board and imagine the residual income one could earn from that alone.

Please go back to sitepoint and dream about the 500K site, instead of arguing with people about valuation models.
 
The old 16million dollar offer came out of a misunderstanding where the buyer thought that Jon would sell the entire company that WickedFire was/is just a part of.

As far as a selling price goes, how would any of us really know? We really don't have any solid numbers to base judgment off of, so we'd just be drawing assumptions. Get someone here to give you some numbers to look at, then factor in your personal value. At least then, you'll be making your judgments on a somewhat factual platform.

Yeah, I read about that too..On SEOBlackHat..
Jon himself told us about it..so there is no scope for any kind of misunderstandings or misconceptions anymore.
JON WAS OFFERED A FEW MILLIONS but that wasn't for WICKEDFIRE ALONE, it was for his whole company!
 
Probably not too much(for a few reasons)
1) Many here are the types that could go into revolt quite easily. Especially if the forum had a new owner who didn't act as we were used to.
2) Wickedfire has this nasty tendency to get in legally dubious situations...

So it's probably worth a fair amount with Jon running it, but changing the owner could easily tank it and make it not worth as much.
 
Probably not too much(for a few reasons)
1) Many here are the types that could go into revolt quite easily. Especially if the forum had a new owner who didn't act as we were used to.
2) Wickedfire has this nasty tendency to get in legally dubious situations...

So it's probably worth a fair amount with Jon running it, but changing the owner could easily tank it and make it not worth as much.

Well said.
 
Probably not too much(for a few reasons)
1) Many here are the types that could go into revolt quite easily. Especially if the forum had a new owner who didn't act as we were used to.
2) Wickedfire has this nasty tendency to get in legally dubious situations...

So it's probably worth a fair amount with Jon running it, but changing the owner could easily tank it and make it not worth as much.

you are too ducking mature for your age!

ps. is there another rumor flying that wf is for sale (again)?
 
Dumbass I was referring to Bofu2U not you when I made my 12th post ...

And btw, I shit on you any day boy ... I make more money in 1 day than you make in 6 months bitch ass rookie ... Judging ppl by post count ? lol you should get bitch slapped

No. And I got your dumbass dangling right here. But if it wasn't about the money, he wouldn't charge money for access to info. And if it was just about keeping the retards out, then charge a nominal fee - so yeah - it is about the money. Fuck mouth.



You rode the short bus, right? How would I calculate v7n's worth? I suppose I would base it on the BIN value attached to it by the owner when he posted it for sale on Sitepoint, with revenue figures and stats. Any other questions? Nice twelfth post, BTW.
 
How well do you know the Wickedfire admins? I believe the response I got from one of them when I asked in IM was "you pretty much hit the nail on the head".

I'm pretty sure they were lying though.

Douche!

No. And I got your dumbass dangling right here. But if it wasn't about the money, he wouldn't charge money for access to info. And if it was just about keeping the retards out, then charge a nominal fee - so yeah - it is about the money. Fuck mouth.
 
WickedFire is not for sale.

The $16M offer was for the entire company, which was rejected. They assumed the name of the company was the same as the site's name. It was a serious offer by someone who has more than enough cash to make a stab offer without thinking twice.
It's a good thing most of you guys are good at affiliate marketing or blogging, because in terms of properly appraising internet properties, no offense, but you suck.

Two months ago I asked three different analysts to appraise what they thought the WickedFire community was worth with the information we agreed to provide to them. One of the analysts is a friend from JP, but he's used to dealing with major companies, so his valuation was WAY inflated (Wall St people seem to think that if you can take a site and start it up with under $100k and make it popular and profitable overnight, then it MUST be magic). The other two, one works at a tech VC and the other works for a tier 1 search engine.

The appraisal values came back as between $22M-$36M. Our revenues are actually fairly low compared to all other forums, since it's clearly not our primary focus. But if that was at an average range then the value would have increased by a lot more. The real value that they all agreed on was the "influence" within the industry. Being that a very large majority of our members are medium-large affiliates. While most of them don't even post here, they do visit and they are active enough to provide business to most of the ad networks and many of the freelancers here too. Another pretty cool aspect was that WickedFire is considered a "one of the few credible sources of information in an industry plagued by hype and dishonesty. When a web source is referenced many times over by agencies such as the FTC, FBI, FL/NY/NV/CA State Attorney Generals offices, then you can consider the value to skyrocket even if the revenues are low. It's a rarity nonetheless".

Legal troubles? I think not. If we caved and ran away with our tail between our legs, then yes, I would say we are prone to a never ending plague of legal troubles. But that's just the opposite. We, quite clearly, DO NOT give in without a fight. We know our rights, we even stick our neck out, and I stick MINE out for members of this forum when they get into trouble. I've mediated TONS of arguments and misunderstandings over the last two years for no other reason than to help both parties reach a fair agreement. Never charged a dime for it. We are being sued by ClickBooth. Have we asked anyone for a dime in legal fees? Nope. We probably should, being that it's coming out of our own pockets and we are also standing up to a bully that no one else seems to be willing to take on.

I take personal offense when people speak first about WickedFire and "assume" we are these evil bunch of people or a bunch of "kids". Really? And on what basis do you make these assumptions:
+ Because we swear?
+ Because we have a sense of humor?
+ Because we don't pretend to be fake or someone we aren't?
+ Because we don't give a shit what you pretend to be an expert on and demand proof first?
+ Because 9 out of 10 of the biggest single person affiliate operations are active members here?
+ Because every major network, whether they like us or not, insists that their AM's read WF over any other?
+ Because some of the largest PPC/SEM affiliates are here?
+ Because we have some of the largest independent mailers here?
+ Because we are younger than you?
+ Because we like long walks on the beach at sunset?

Overall, I think the valuation of WickedFire from those three sources isn't deadly accurate, but isn't far off. I certainly don't want to be around here forever, but I will stay for as long as WF needs me to. When the time comes to leave, I sure as hell won't offload it to someone that will undermine everything we've come to love about this place.

So if you think otherwise, I think you should hold in your opinion and tell me in person instead. Or tell the group of loyal WickedFire attendees at any of the industry conferences. But I'll bet, whomever you naysayers and doubters are, you'll just cave in and keep it to yourself, because without the security of being behind your computer or your prepaid lawyers, you folks are just a big bunch of PUSSIES.
 
shit, i thought it would be worth a lot of money but $36m in the top range?

i'm sure you worked very hard but i am drooling with envy...

congrats on that value creation!


:bowdown:

ps long walks on the beach? ;)
 
shit, i thought it would be worth a lot of money but $36m in the top range?

i'm sure you worked very hard but i am drooling with envy...

congrats on that value creation!


:bowdown:

ps long walks on the beach? ;)

Not selling it, so nothing to be envious about.
 
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