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Jon I love you for your post.
I been long around Wicked Fire.
This guy sounded good but he is a scammer.
Everyone who says this tool workss they need to wake up..
I have tested it days and nights and different sites with G analytic and other analytics
It does not work simple as that.
And Jon to be honest with you I would have gone the other way around
but this loser BLOCKED and DELETED US from his msn and yahoo
and if this is not scam then what is it?
 


Ok here is what it comes out as when I send it to me.

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[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w�w.�m�y�i�p�o�d�t�o�u�c�h�4�f�r�e�e.�c�o�m
[21:04] acxcaroejf: Hello ,adexhibitjason �w�w

How on earth is someone going to be able to click that, If they get it they would be all lost.

I will say it is working though. KINDA
 
Listen Ad I will not repeat this again and again and again.
I have tested with almost 50 PCz
Now listen to me dont go nutty
This tool does not work anymore.
It sent you a message but try again you won't be able to send again.
I have tried it all
FFS stop giving his side. He has scammed us.
He blocked and deleted all of us.
Out of 20 PEOPLE UR THE ONLY ONE
who is giving his side and keep saying it works.
THe tool is a waste. You can send messages to yourself through simple pm spam.
The tool does not work on 9.0 and the tool does not send messages to most of the urls.
And this tool is just waste he sold us a useless copy.
 
Conquistador said:
Listen Ad I will not repeat this again and again and again.
I have tested with almost 50 PCz
Now listen to me dont go nutty
This tool does not work anymore.
It sent you a message but try again you won't be able to send again.
I have tried it all
FFS stop giving his side. He has scammed us.
He blocked and deleted all of us.
Out of 20 PEOPLE UR THE ONLY ONE
who is giving his side and keep saying it works.
THe tool is a waste. You can send messages to yourself through simple pm spam.
The tool does not work on 9.0 and the tool does not send messages to most of the urls.
And this tool is just waste he sold us a useless copy.
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I am not one to jump to conclusions so fast. I understand you are upset. I just would like good to come out of this. I think the last time I talked to him was around Monday. Honestly, I want to believe it works at least a little bit.
Tell you what since I am such a nice guy if I cannot get a hold of ROB and get this program to get me any conversions I will personally refund anyone who has posted thus far about it.

Lets maybe give him the benefit of the doubt. Honestly things happen I know he has a young kid and things like that.
 
Boss or shall I call you God
why would you refund us?
The guy has fckd up his career.
for $500 he will soon be licking some dog balls I wont let him cheat just like that.
 
Conquistador said:
Boss or shall I call you God
why would you refund us?
The guy has fckd up his career.
for $500 he will soon be licking some dog balls I wont let him cheat just like that.
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Hopefully something good can come out of this. I hope it can.

The reason I offer to the people who have mentioned they bought it is because I figure you can use the money more than me. Grant I am not rich by any means. I just do not like people to get screwed over some bullshit.

JON gave him until the 10th I cannot get a hold of him at all so we will see on that date. Hopefully something good can come out of this.
 
Hey Guys,

I want to come out and share my experience w/ Rob and his wife. Its kind of funny reading the complaints in this thread because I went through the same thing.

Last year in August, I purchased the "old" software (before yahoo threw down the ban hammer) from Rob and his wife for $18,000. I made a deposit of $5000 via PayPal and he sent me a working copy of the program. After a few days of testing the software, I wired the rest of the cash to his personal bank account.

All was well for the first week, and the program did everything Rob promised. It brought in heaps of converting traffic and I was on track to make back what the program cost in about a month. After about a week and a half, the program stopped sending messages (due to some yahoo updates). Rob had assured me that he would always be available 24/7 for program support, which he was when the program was working. After it stopped working, however, Rob seemed to disappear from YM altogether.

I would get excuses from his wife about him being out of town, that they're moving, busy, etc. He conveniently stopped picking up his phone and never returned my calls. He would get on YM occasionally and give me a lame "update" about the program, saying that he'd have a working copy of it up soon. He sent another copy of the program a week later, but it stopped working the day I got it.

Instead of offering me a refund, partial refund, or anything remotely close to good customer service, he just kept giving me more excuses and promises about a new program. After a month I grew tired of waiting and just wanted a refund. At this point, Rob was impossible to get a hold of and I caught him trying to sell the program on sitepoint for $20,000. I PM'ed each person bidding and told them to steer clear of it.

As furious as I was, I just kept my cool and charged back my Amex for as much as I could. I ended up losing about $4000 in the mess, but was relieved I didn't lose the entire amount, so I let it go.

It really pisses me off that he's trying this crap again, and I'm glad you guys caught on to it. I wish I would have seen this thread earlier and saved a few of you some headache. I think that Rob knew that the program would break soon, and wanted to make a quick buck before it did. Doesn't make sense that he's trying to make $500 bucks on a shitty program these days.. Seems like more a risky headache than anything else.

Anyway the point of the story is stay away from this guy. I can't say he's 100% evil because before I bought the progam he was sending me consistent traffic and was always true to his word. He only seems to go into hiding when shit hits the fan and that's the worst way to deal with customers.

Rob if you're reading this, I want my money back too!

P.S. I have all of Rob's personal info in case we need to use it. Bank Accounts, Home Address, Copy of Drivers License (maybe fake?), and SSN.
 
He nor his wife have made any attempts to get back to me or contact me at all, and she used to IM me all the time, randomly about domaining questions. I'm not going to actively seek them out anymore.

If they don't come around by May 10th, the info is going to be posted and we'll take the necessary measures to arm everyone of the clients, unhappy or not, with information on how to take action against the scammers.

We'll also do what we can to make sure that this is their LAST scam here. We can't protect or publish this stuff on other forums, but we'll do our best to make sure more people here never get fucked by them again.
 
phancw said:
Hey Guys,

I want to come out and share my experience w/ Rob and his wife. Its kind of funny reading the complaints in this thread because I went through the same thing.

Last year in August, I purchased the "old" software (before yahoo threw down the ban hammer) from Rob and his wife for $18,000. I made a deposit of $5000 via PayPal and he sent me a working copy of the program. After a few days of testing the software, I wired the rest of the cash to his personal bank account.

All was well for the first week, and the program did everything Rob promised. It brought in heaps of converting traffic and I was on track to make back what the program cost in about a month. After about a week and a half, the program stopped sending messages (due to some yahoo updates). Rob had assured me that he would always be available 24/7 for program support, which he was when the program was working. After it stopped working, however, Rob seemed to disappear from YM altogether.

I would get excuses from his wife about him being out of town, that they're moving, busy, etc. He conveniently stopped picking up his phone and never returned my calls. He would get on YM occasionally and give me a lame "update" about the program, saying that he'd have a working copy of it up soon. He sent another copy of the program a week later, but it stopped working the day I got it.

Instead of offering me a refund, partial refund, or anything remotely close to good customer service, he just kept giving me more excuses and promises about a new program. After a month I grew tired of waiting and just wanted a refund. At this point, Rob was impossible to get a hold of and I caught him trying to sell the program on sitepoint for $20,000. I PM'ed each person bidding and told them to steer clear of it.

As furious as I was, I just kept my cool and charged back my Amex for as much as I could. I ended up losing about $4000 in the mess, but was relieved I didn't lose the entire amount, so I let it go.

It really pisses me off that he's trying this crap again, and I'm glad you guys caught on to it. I wish I would have seen this thread earlier and saved a few of you some headache. I think that Rob knew that the program would break soon, and wanted to make a quick buck before it did. Doesn't make sense that he's trying to make $500 bucks on a shitty program these days.. Seems like more a risky headache than anything else.

Anyway the point of the story is stay away from this guy. I can't say he's 100% evil because before I bought the progam he was sending me consistent traffic and was always true to his word. He only seems to go into hiding when shit hits the fan and that's the worst way to deal with customers.

Rob if you're reading this, I want my money back too!

P.S. I have all of Rob's personal info in case we need to use it. Bank Accounts, Home Address, Copy of Drivers License (maybe fake?), and SSN.
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Man that sucks. i hope you can get your money back some way.
 
Jon said:
He nor his wife have made any attempts to get back to me or contact me at all, and she used to IM me all the time, randomly about domaining questions. I'm not going to actively seek them out anymore.

If they don't come around by May 10th, the info is going to be posted and we'll take the necessary measures to arm everyone of the clients, unhappy or not, with information on how to take action against the scammers.

We'll also do what we can to make sure that this is their LAST scam here. We can't protect or publish this stuff on other forums, but we'll do our best to make sure more people here never get fucked by them again.
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Thanks JON
 
Phancw, Jon and others-

I spent a lot of time in the past talking to Rob, his wife, buying traffic from them, testing programs, etc...

My experience with them has been IDENTICAL to EVERYTHING you guys have said about them. Rob seemed like a straightforward, honest guy until the dollar amounts we began dealing with got up there. I've thought a lot about the situation and have assessed it as best as I could and there are absolutely no excuses for him pulling shit like this now. Him and his wife are clearly scammers and should return everyone's money. She used to message me too asking random domain questions, trying to sell me other crap, etc etc... Then once they stopped delivering on their promises, she blocked me on IMs but I could see she was still on AIM daily through my other names. Rob always had an excuse for not delivering on promises. I'm looking into legal action against them.

Anyways, I have all their info and will help you guys in any way I can.
 
maximus said:
Phancw, Jon and others-

I spent a lot of time in the past talking to Rob, his wife, buying traffic from them, testing programs, etc...

My experience with them has been IDENTICAL to EVERYTHING you guys have said about them. Rob seemed like a straightforward, honest guy until the dollar amounts we began dealing with got up there. I've thought a lot about the situation and have assessed it as best as I could and there are absolutely no excuses for him pulling shit like this now. Him and his wife are clearly scammers and should return everyone's money. She used to message me too asking random domain questions, trying to sell me other crap, etc etc... Then once they stopped delivering on their promises, she blocked me on IMs but I could see she was still on AIM daily through my other names. Rob always had an excuse for not delivering on promises. I'm looking into legal action against them.

Anyways, I have all their info and will help you guys in any way I can.
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Can I start chanting for his info published?
 
Days over Ball sucker.
Like others said Rob has been trying to sell this product over DP, SitePoint and other places. Just like every other person over here, this bastard at first was helpful and straight forward but once I told him that the program is not working. HIs wife always told me Rob is out of Town. I think he is taking Jon easy and thinks Jon cant even do shit to him..
I think he is flying high and thinks he is the man and nobody can do shit.
Well Rob gotta take that fucking PRIDE of yours down now.
I may not get my $500 but you bet, you fucked your life for $500..
 
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