Shady has more testicular fortitude in one pube than you do in your entire body.
Copying Competitor's Landing Pages
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Shady has more testicular fortitude in one pube than you do in your entire body.
guess that would explain the pack of bitch dogs that follow him around eh wolfe.
1 post != following him around. And he's right in the post ^^^^
2 now. :food-smiley-010: lol im just messing around, don't worry i wont hurt your boyfriend
Yeah, sorry if I'm a bit annoyed at people who conclude the entire industry is rebills and we should all just behave like asshats because it was ok for Acai. And now it's spilling out past flogs. So fuck that.
In general, I'm a nice guy. I help people out when they need it. I'm not especially greedy (I like the challenge more than the money). But this is getting to be a bit of a pet peeve.
That's just not even relevant. Everyone's got a bit of asshole in them
Now I'll grant you the successful have a bit more asshole than most in them than most.
But you can be asshole enough to succeed without being a total prick all the time. Making an asshole move because you have to/have tried other things and making one because it's your first instinct are entirely different things.
For one, you are a real person forced to make a tough decision.
For the other, you're just a full-time asshole. And no amount of money will ever make you not an asshole. Only time and figuring it out for yourself.
First, only a fool believes there's a number one. If you ever think there is, it's because you're not seeing a big enough picture.
Second, I guarantee there's dozens and dozens of people on this board who could fuck every campaign you have so hard you'd be out of biz for good.
So either
- You have the skills to do that and are not, so you do have ethics and can just stfu already with the hardcore image.
- You do not have the skills to do this, in which case you're not close to #1, you exist only because people haven't decided to remove you. And in that case, stfu.
first of all is the entire industry not turning out like acai? go to almost every network and whats there top products? acai, grants, colon, teeth whitening, google tree profit or what ever the hell that is etc etc.
Seems like the industry is turning out that way wither you want to believe it or not.
and as far as the whole asshole thing its just a statement, I ain't an asshole either but sometimes you have to do assholeish things to get ahead.
what are you implying? that there are dozens and dozens of people who are better at running my campaigns than I am? Of course there is. I never claimed to be number 1.
Not sure what your talking about here, skills to do what? and no im an affiliate marketer whos pushed acai so i aint gonna be a hypocrite and say i have ethics and neither should you if you are pushing any rebill offer.
from this i think you mean skills to actually do shit for myself like build landing pages? its not hard at all and yes i do it all the time. but you gotta be stupid not to understand the useful ness you get out of testing different landers even if they aren't your own. Take what works and apply to your own page.
do you put food on there table? Lets see your originality, I guarantee you it consists of the same type of flog with you rewording the content. you said your self your not entirely innocent so why are you trying to argue with something you self proclaim to be. /meknows your a hypocrite.
I think copying is and will always be a part of this industry and any other. Being the first to innovate is what makes the money as well as copying other peoples innovations and doing it better. I've gotten a little bit of experience in quite a wide range of industries and I can safely say that every single one copies the competition to get ideas. Copying grows the revenue in an industry while shrinking the profits of those that are not competitive enough to survive.
The thing that should not be going on and will destroy us all is out right sabotage. It's very easy to do anonymously over the internet which is what is causing problems. I can't think of another industry in which you can sabotage the competition so effectively without ever getting caught. This alone makes me not want to get into SOE where I could work hard getting a domain ranked for some keywords for 6 months only to have someone link spam my site to get it deindexed by google. Shit like this does nothing but make everyone loose money. An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind kind of deal.
The thing that should not be going on and will destroy us all is out right sabotage. It's very easy to do anonymously over the internet which is what is causing problems. I can't think of another industry in which you can sabotage the competition so effectively without ever getting caught. This alone makes me not want to get into SOE where I could work hard getting a domain ranked for some keywords for 6 months only to have someone link spam my site to get it deindexed by google. Shit like this does nothing but make everyone loose money. An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind kind of deal.
There are so many differences between drug dealers and the affiliate marketing industry I don't even know why you would bring it up...
The biggest difference is every time I buy weed from my dealer I am very happy to get it and I'm a repeat customer. I think for most of the acai, colon, grant, bizopp stuff people are selling through CPA networks the users are NOT repeat happy customers. I might be wrong, but at least the really profitable stuff I don't think they are repeat customers.
I remember a few months/year back I read some posts by lerchmo about copying landing pages that really inspired me to get out there and make a lot of money during the acai craze; and I'm really grateful for those posts.
Don't be dumb and copy the images on people's pages if you don't have the rights to them (search shutterstock, istockphoto, dreamstime, fotolia for legal images - they are most likely from there anyway), and change around the text, add some buttons etc. Anytime I see 'copyright strictly enforced' on a page I say to myself, wow I should really copy the style of this page if they felt like they needed to put that message up on the bottom.
The biggest difference is every time I buy weed from my dealer I am very happy to get it and I'm a repeat customer. I think for most of the acai, colon, grant, bizopp stuff people are selling through CPA networks the users are NOT repeat happy customers. I might be wrong, but at least the really profitable stuff I don't think they are repeat customers.
I remember a few months/year back I read some posts by lerchmo about copying landing pages that really inspired me to get out there and make a lot of money during the acai craze; and I'm really grateful for those posts.
Don't be dumb and copy the images on people's pages if you don't have the rights to them (search shutterstock, istockphoto, dreamstime, fotolia for legal images - they are most likely from there anyway), and change around the text, add some buttons etc. Anytime I see 'copyright strictly enforced' on a page I say to myself, wow I should really copy the style of this page if they felt like they needed to put that message up on the bottom.
Nope, those aren't asshole skills at all. Ignorant, broke dicks blatantly copy ... assholes fuck shit up. FYI, these are the skills he's referring to
I think you might have bitten off a bit more than you can chew here.
Tread carefully
what are you saying fuck every campaign i have in what means? click my ads till i go broke? or hack my site? lol wow you really made your point there. Because someone obviously proved you wrong and shitted on your whole argument and called you out on it your next best thing is threaten my campaigns?
LOL? Did i strike a nerve or something? Or are you mad because im right? if im not right prove me wrong don't threaten my campaigns thats what children do when they are wrong and they know it.
LOL? Did i strike a nerve or something? Or are you mad because im right? if im not right prove me wrong don't threaten my campaigns thats what children do when they are wrong and they know it.
I hope when you say "you" you're referring to shady as I'm just interpreting since you obviously missed his point. He IS a hell of a nice guy and wouldn't do something of that nature. Besides, what would be the benefit? He's probably beating 99% of those in the game already.
The point I am trying to make is that it's better to know that these things exist, so you don't go through life thinking that stealing will get you ahead .. It WILL eventually bite you in the ass. There is a dark side to every industry.
Go steal an 8ball from your local crack dealer and find out what happens ... that's only a couple hundred bucks. People in this industry make much more than that, and yes, a fair percentage are assholes with unlimited resources.
Again, tread carefully
The point I am trying to make is that it's better to know that these things exist, so you don't go through life thinking that stealing will get you ahead .. It WILL eventually bite you in the ass. There is a dark side to every industry.
Go steal an 8ball from your local crack dealer and find out what happens ... that's only a couple hundred bucks. People in this industry make much more than that, and yes, a fair percentage are assholes with unlimited resources.
Again, tread carefully
no i wasn't talking about you i thought you were trying to tell me that he was implying that.
and no i dont go around stealing landing pages. i get them made right here from wicked fire members actually but my first replay in the thread was actually geared towards all the hypocrites. everyones done something to the extent the OP was talkng about at least once in there AM career wither it was copying a design or content. I just hate how people can bad mouth someone about ethics when there selling rebill offers and they've more than likely stolen a landing page themselves.
then it kinda spiraled back and forth from there, I was under then impression shady was actually trying to say theres a difference between selling people fake shit and stealing peoples landing pages. Either way if you do either you can't claim to have any ethics, your either stealing someones landing page or helping steal peoples money or both in some cases. so anyone who posted before bashing this guy if you did either your just as guilty as the OP.
I agree with that argument to an extent but it's irrelevant because you can't force people to accept your ethics as their own.
Section 1, Amendment 12 of the pirate's code is the reason we don't tolerate ebook sales here, yet many promote them.
Amendment 13 clearly states: You don't shit in your own back yard.
When you're ripping off customers, it's bad but you'll have to deal with it in your own way. When you're ripping off other affiliates, it's worse and there are usually repercussions.
I have to admit something.... I am guilty of copying someones landing page. Tell me if you recognize this landing page.
www.thinandrich.com
www.thinandrich.com
Yeah. They're big money makers. There's always a lot more out there. There's a lot more networks than the ones in the mainstream. Some of which don't even use cross-published offers. And they will have different offers as their top. There's also direct deals that push network-run offers out(so they don't show up). There's also actually you know, just selling the fucking leads themselves.
In your own constrained view, sure.
You don't always "have to". You can sometimes have to. Try not to.
When's the last time you took an offer that was getting promoted by flog and promoted it in a different way? Would you even know if old style landers started working better again in the future? I doubt it.
No, I'm not saying there are people who are better at running campaigns than you. I mean, obviously.
What I'm saying is that it is solely because of the ethics of people more skilled than yourself that you are able to run them at all.
Right now I'm not pushing a rebill offer. Though there's nothing inherrently wrong with them, and I do plan to (again) in the future. I mean, since I obviously put no effort at all into cleaning up my rebill landers(oh wait! I do!)
You can learn from their experience without doing a dead on copy. No one's going to tell you "Don't do a review lander" if those dominate a niche. But you can make your own. And let's be honest, very few doing this are "testing". They take it and leave it.
Yes, I have used a flog. A few. I'll even give you full disclosure: I've written most of mine(and they were more honest than most). There are 2 I copied. One is from a friend of mine, and I wired him money for it before I used it. Oh yeah, and it was in November.
The other one is one where there was 185 copies of it already out there. And it's sitting idle until I have a chance to tidy it up and change the copy (not just reword).
I'm not perfect, but I'm better than a lot.
When's the last time you made a legit lander?
Even your non splogs are hopeless rips off the merchants LP on trademarked domains.
Maybe it's time you got back to webmaster welfare and myspace layouts.
I don't like being called a hypocrite when I worked my ass off to not be dependent on rebills.
No, I didn't say either of those things.
You missed the point entirely. It was about ethics place in the industry. And before you go preaching that throwing away ethics is a necessity to "win" in this industry, consider the implications it would have if people better than yourself tossed their's away.
Besides, none of those would work on SEO. At least not when most of your traffic is coming from MSN organic.
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not sure what your getting at with the merchant LP, trademarked domains or myspace layouts im guessing your just making a general statement or something.
as far as you being a hypocrite, you just proved my whole point of me calling you a hypocrite. you just basically told me you did everything i said you did and now your saying you dont like being called a hypocrite because you worked your ass off not to be dependent on rebills. That doesn't matter it had nothing to do with the point i was making.
Everyone was jumping on the guy and i called everyone hypocrites and you jumped on me like you never did it before yet you come clean and basically tell me you did the same thing. what the hell are you trying to argue?
this shit is just going in a circle, i simply stated my opinion, you din't like being called a hypocrite yet you came clean and proved my point.
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