Anyone Get Google Biatch Slapped This Week?

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Campaign ran smooth as ice for 90 days, got annihilated yesterday. Good stuff.

Anybody else get the slappage this week?
 


It's true... I ran into one guy so far in my life that knew what aff marketing was...

.. and yeah, everyone gets slapped.. find your next trick.

Affiliate marketers usually have no one within 100 miles that would know what the hell they're venting about. Leaving Wicked Fire to fulfill that need, or should we call it Wicked Shrink :D
 
does someone have to create one of these threads every month? :(

Unfortunately, yes. Jon sent me a PM saying that it was my turn to "create one of these threads". I begrudingly said "alright, I'll do it". Taking one for the team.

On a side note, there have been times in the past when Google goes on a slapping rampage. I might have been trying to see if this was the case this week.

Or I might have just been looking to give you something to biatch about.

Either way Mission Accomplished.
 
Got slapped on a campaign that ran for about 2 weeks (Same camp has been slapped multiple times this year but not nearly as bad as lately), new domain, ip, page and it was slapped again in about 8 hours. Did the same thing with a new setup and got slapped now within 10 minutes about an hour ago. Maybe I need to wait a couple days before trying to do this campaign again :)
 
Had a campaign that got slapped heavily. Made new account, ip, domain. ran smoothly for 3 weeks got slapped this week.

Maybe they went on a slap fest . Some spring cleaning
 
Had a campaign that got slapped heavily. Made new account, ip, domain. ran smoothly for 3 weeks got slapped this week.

Maybe they went on a slap fest . Some spring cleaning

They are always on a slap fest but its probably focused on different keywords, just seems right now they are focused on the keywords that a lot of us are using.

I just find it a bit annoying when my campaigns are getting slapped 3 times this week after putting them back up with new hosting, ip, page, and for whatever reason someone who copied my exact lander is top 5 for the keyword and have not had to change domains this week at all (Maybe they are reporting me? I never report anyone for anything but this guy ripped my lander and has stayed top 5 for the keywords all week that I got slapped 3 times for with same/similar pages).

Whatever, no reason for me to rant about it, i'll just wait a few days and do a better lander and hope for the best. I can see how someone would rip my lander and use it and slightly outbid me even if that is low, but reporting the person you ripped off right after that and then continuing to do so everytime they come back?, I can't imagine anyone in the industry being that shady so i'm probably just imagining things but who knows.
 
My content network campaigns got slapped yesterday as well. Funny thing is if I upload the same lander and domain for "search only", I am ok.
 
My content network campaigns got slapped yesterday as well. Funny thing is if I upload the same lander and domain for "search only", I am ok.

Yeah, they hit Content hard yesterday. A lot of my shit I've had running for months went dark.
 
dickarmy,

What do you plan to do? It looks like new domain name should do the trick. I will reupload my campaigns under new domain names in a few hours.
 
Yeah... I'm pretty sure you can attribute the return of aggressive slapping to the fact that adwords is flooded with the same fucking landing page 1000 times over again. As well as every other advertising medium.

Mother fuckers just love to cannabalize a niche by duplicating the same lander again and again and again and again.

With the exception of a select few - If you are relying on fake blogs or their reincarnation to make your money - your days in this industry are seriously limited. You should really quit being so fucking lazy and learn something so that you can survive when the low hanging fruit dries up. I mean lets be honest... most of you floggers really don't have a fucking clue. You came into the industry at a time when a couple hot products hit and landing page theft was being given a pass.

I can't wait until shit dries up a bit and all you ppc classroom, wannabe marketers have to get real jobs again.
 
Yeah... I'm pretty sure you can attribute the return of aggressive slapping to the fact that adwords is flooded with the same fucking landing page 1000 times over again. As well as every other advertising medium.

Mother fuckers just love to cannabalize a niche by duplicating the same lander again and again and again and again.

With the exception of a select few - If you are relying on fake blogs or their reincarnation to make your money - your days in this industry are seriously limited. You should really quit being so fucking lazy and learn something so that you can survive when the low hanging fruit dries up. I mean lets be honest... most of you floggers really don't have a fucking clue. You came into the industry at a time when a couple hot products hit and landing page theft was being given a pass.

I can't wait until shit dries up a bit and all you ppc classroom, wannabe marketers have to get real jobs again.

hate much?
 
What exactly is it Google does when they decide to 'slap' youi? Do they just decide they're not happy with something and run a query to see whos pissing them off? And once they decide they're not happy with something does it stay that way?

What is it that they deem generally unacceptable? Scammy looking stuff, particular offers, certain kw's or what? It always seems to be Google people are bitching about, does this happen just as often with other large search engines?
 
hate much?

Yes, I hate the negative attention that 1,000,000 copies of the same landing page brings to the industry and/or whatever niche is so unfortunate to be plagued by it.

The flog isn't really my issue, it's that people don't see the problem that comes from 100 idiots duplicating a landing page thought up by the creativity of one individual, and bidding on the exact same keywords, using the same/similar ad copy.

Not only is this not good for the industry - if you're being that lazy, you're guaranteed to be leaving money on the table. You may be making more coin than your friends and your parents... maybe more than you ever thought you could, but you aren't making more than the people who lead the pack instead of following it.
 
Yes, I hate the negative attention that 1,000,000 copies of the same landing page brings to the industry and/or whatever niche is so unfortunate to be plagued by it.

The flog isn't really my issue, it's that people don't see the problem that comes from 100 idiots duplicating a landing page thought up by the creativity of one individual, and bidding on the exact same keywords, using the same/similar ad copy.

Not only is this not good for the industry - if you're being that lazy, you're guaranteed to be leaving money on the table. You may be making more coin than your friends and your parents... maybe more than you ever thought you could, but you aren't making more than the people who lead the pack instead of following it.

Yes, I agree with everything you said.

I'm not sure the people who copy landers actually make much actually. Twice (in two seperate industies) I used the generic lander as an experiment. I wanted to see if my unique landers were actually leaving money on the table. But both times I lost money. Went from 100%+ ROI on my own to break even or at a loss with the generic lander.

Funny thing is, the real reason that I made my own unique landers to begin with was I was so bad at HTML that I couldn't even figure out how to copy the generic lander WordPress template.

Thank God. I may have never made it in this industry.
 
i would say the issue is more with the fact that we are hyper inflating the bid prices across a broad section of niches to the point where marketers promoting non rebill models just cannot compete and we totally saturate. this in turn is not good for the consumer (in googles eyes anyway) and i can understand this. you know selling acai, for example, CPS should be viable. but how the hell could you get this to work when your advertising competition is getting upto $7-8 epc. its impossible. The situation on content is even worse. at least on search 10 advertisers get their ads shown but on content its 2-4 the norm. Take a look at acai berry search results from the uk if you don't believe me. notice how there is a string of "real" stores on there selling acai, thats what google wants, variety, not the rebill/review page fest the us results give. i played in the uk acai field for months and would regularly and easily outbid Boots which is englands biggest pharmacy chain.they just couldn't compete, not even close.

and now we're pushing out bizopps, teeth, acne, etc..

google even stated as such, in another thread, that they are cutting out the affiliates in various competitive verticals. And who can blame them? health stores and the like will still be selling acai/tea/whatever for years to come. will we? smart money always backs the long term customer if you cannot accomodate both.

finally as for the flog. there is nothing wrong with this type of preselling, IM marketers have been using it for years and (most) of us probably got suckered by it at some time in our noob years. the story is called "the reluctant hero" - one of many copywriting stories actively used daily to sell numerous products online and offline through sales letters and in print. the only difference between them and a flog is the blog style of lander rather than sales letter, comments rather than testimonials and the fact that we're impersonating a fat middle aged women with bad teeth,skin,whatever instead of pretending to be a self made internet millionaire/pro golfer/tennis coach/whatever. same old same old.

i played the rebill game for months on google and eventually it got me banned. a situation it took 3 weeks and considerable time and effort to sort (they really are the NSA lol). now i'm back in i've learned some valuable lessons:
1) give google what they want &
2) plenty of other places will happily take my rebill dollars :)
 
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