Tooth Whitening Yanked from AdSonar/AOL

Waaaahh!! My scammy rebill offer with my ad that I stole from someone else, with a landing page I stole from someone else, on the network that I saw someone else running the offer on is getting banned!

Longevity & diversity, folks.

Good to see AOL only cares about ad quality on its own properties, and not that of their partners.
 


alpal said:
Hard to believe they're pulling teeth whitening but still dry humping Google bizzops.
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Yeah, that is odd. I considered the teeth whitening offers to be more benign than googlebizops but AOL must have it's reasons.
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
My guess is they may be pulling teeth whitening because almost every ad is for teeth whitening, not due to any customer complaints.

re: P360 pulling teeth, I heard it from an AM, not anyone at Pulse so it may not be accurate.
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Yeah, this.

Any time I saw ANY AdSonar placement all I got was three teeth whitening ads in a row (seriously? NBA.com with teeth whitening ads?), and almost always going to the same page. I thought about a month ago that it wouldn't be too long before AdSonar get tired of it and make people advertise something else instead.
 
johu said:
Waaaahh!! My scammy rebill offer with my ad that I stole from someone else, with a landing page I stole from someone else, on the network that I saw someone else running the offer on is getting banned!

Longevity & diversity, folks.

Good to see AOL only cares about ad quality on its own properties, and not that of their partners.
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Their CEO is disgusted with these teeth ads. The disgusting ads were hitting 2% ctr in AOL mail. Someone was going to place a huge order up until next year, but the CEO found out and banned all the teeth ads.
 
DirSP said:
Their CEO is disgusted with these teeth ads. The disgusting ads were hitting 2% ctr in AOL mail. Someone was going to place a huge order up until next year, but the CEO found out and banned all the teeth ads.
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Sauce?
 
The more sketchy the advertisers become to one up each other (like adding forced upsells that are virtually impossible to notice and not even a checkbox but a image button to remove it) to faster that niche will be killed, regulatory agencies such as the AG and FTC will get involved, publishers and ad networks will stop allowing it, etc etc.

I mean rebills are what they are but when you force an upsell that is often completely non-related and that the user would have no interest in nor know they even signed up for it then it's only going to fuck things up for everyone that much faster as well as bring all the legal troubles to the advertisers door. I understand it's a competative industry and everyone from affiliates to networks to advertisers are at each others throats to beat each other out any way they can but damn some of us are cutting off our own nose despite our face. We can all make insane money, keep risk down, and do it for a long long time to come if some of us used our brain and thought about the future a bit before pushing the envelope as far as possible for the extra quick buck today.

What's next a hidden triple forced upsell so the user gets a $300 CC charge the moment they hit submit on their teeth whitening free trial?
 
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WayneDog said:
cutting off our own nose despite our face.
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It's "cutting off your nose to SPITE your face".

Kind of like Back to the Future, where Biff says "Make like a tree and get out of here". Sorry, had to say it. Back to the normal discussion at hand.
 
WayneDog said:
The more sketchy the advertisers become to one up each other (like adding forced upsells that are virtually impossible to notice and not even a checkbox but a image button to remove it) to faster that niche will be killed, regulatory agencies such as the AG and FTC will get involved, publishers and ad networks will stop allowing it, etc etc.

I mean rebills are what they are but when you force an upsell that is often completely non-related and that the user would have no interest in nor know they even signed up for it then it's only going to fuck things up for everyone that much faster as well as bring all the legal troubles to the advertisers door. I understand it's a competative industry and everyone from affiliates to networks to advertisers are at each others throats to beat each other out any way they can but damn some of us are cutting off our own nose despite our face. We can all make insane money, keep risk down, and do it for a long long time to come if some of us used our brain and thought about the future a bit before pushing the envelope as far as possible for the extra quick buck today.

What's next a hidden triple forced upsell so the user gets a $300 CC charge the moment they hit submit on their teeth whitening free trial?
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+REP
 
WayneDog said:
The more sketchy the advertisers become to one up each other (like adding forced upsells that are virtually impossible to notice and not even a checkbox but a image button to remove it) to faster that niche will be killed, regulatory agencies such as the AG and FTC will get involved, publishers and ad networks will stop allowing it, etc etc.

I mean rebills are what they are but when you force an upsell that is often completely non-related and that the user would have no interest in nor know they even signed up for it then it's only going to fuck things up for everyone that much faster as well as bring all the legal troubles to the advertisers door. I understand it's a competative industry and everyone from affiliates to networks to advertisers are at each others throats to beat each other out any way they can but damn some of us are cutting off our own nose despite our face. We can all make insane money, keep risk down, and do it for a long long time to come if some of us used our brain and thought about the future a bit before pushing the envelope as far as possible for the extra quick buck today.

What's next a hidden triple forced upsell so the user gets a $300 CC charge the moment they hit submit on their teeth whitening free trial?
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Completely agree with you.

This is partly because affiliates, networks, and advertisers have gotten into a bidding war and forcing higher than normal payouts on a product that doesn't have a long customer lifespan. So the only way to pay more and make up the difference in payout is to force ebook or fitness membership upsell.
 
majorbta said:
Completely agree with you.

This is partly because affiliates, networks, and advertisers have gotten into a bidding war and forcing higher than normal payouts on a product that doesn't have a long customer lifespan. So the only way to pay more and make up the difference in payout is to force ebook or fitness membership upsell.
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And due to the increased scrutiny that the post-transaction-marketing model has just gotten in congress ( The Post Transaction Marketing Wall Of Shame: Hundreds Of Well Known Ecommerce Sites Rip Off Customers ), it's only a matter of time before regulations on companies passing credit card information to other companies change.
 
re majorbta^ I think most affs would agree with this. Its not about carpet bombing the web and ruining the image of IM..building trust for future sales is a better gameplan...not bagging someone for $90 in a teeth rebill and pissing them off to never buy something online again.
But ..try preaching to the choir on this...Millionaires are being made on this shit
 
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