Tooth Whitening Yanked from AdSonar/AOL

johu said:
And due to the increased scrutiny that the post-transaction-marketing model has just gotten in congress ( The Post Transaction Marketing Wall Of Shame: Hundreds Of Well Known Ecommerce Sites Rip Off Customers ), it's only a matter of time before regulations on companies passing credit card information to other companies change.
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Affinion, Vertrue, and Webloyalty are the three largest companies partnering on these scams. The report states that these three companies have earned over $1.4 billion in revenue from 35 million transactions. 4 million people are currently enrolled in the plans.
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Vertrue=NeverBlue
Vertrue, Inc Subsidiaries - Neverblue | Vertrue.com
 


johu said:
And due to the increased scrutiny that the post-transaction-marketing model has just gotten in congress ( The Post Transaction Marketing Wall Of Shame: Hundreds Of Well Known Ecommerce Sites Rip Off Customers ), it's only a matter of time before regulations on companies passing credit card information to other companies change.
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its amazing people call these tactics "scams". I never once thought Godaddy was trying to scam me with their upsells / cross sells. Maybe thats a more beign form of this but its just how the internet has always worked.
 
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come the fuck on retard, no shit there is going to be something required for that to happen, especially post checkout confirmation.
 
yet mailing old ladies "checks" for $50 that if they cash enroll them in all sorts of impossible to cancel shit is acceptable?

C'mon - this is perhaps the most confusing/deceitful practice ever and every slimey direct mail agency has engaged in this for YEARS covered by small print on the back.

What's easier to be confused - "get $10 if you sign up for this program" on a fucking WEBSITE, or something that looks/feels/smells just like a check that someone confusingly thinks is a true 'rebate' and accidentally depsoits at the bank?

Fucking absurd.
 
Sonny Forelli said:
yet mailing old ladies "checks" for $50 that if they cash enroll them in all sorts of impossible to cancel shit is acceptable?

C'mon - this is perhaps the most confusing/deceitful practice ever and every slimey direct mail agency has engaged in this for YEARS covered by small print on the back.

What's easier to be confused - "get $10 if you sign up for this program" on a fucking WEBSITE, or something that looks/feels/smells just like a check that someone confusingly thinks is a true 'rebate' and accidentally depsoits at the bank?

Fucking absurd.
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thats whats so ridiculous about this. for some reason, since its the internet, its a scam. Anything that costs money on the internet is a scam. Fucking orbitz and 1800 flowers are now scams. If Affiliate marketing does not get industry lobbyiests soon, its going to look very different in the near future. Having to say "i might be making money of MY OWN website" is just the beginning. Soon it will be "ARE YOU ABSOLUTELY SURE YOU WANT US TO BILL YOU FOR SOMETHING YOU ARE BUYING WHEN YOU SHOULD BE SAVING YOUR MONEY?"
 
Teeth coming down from Adsonar

Not true!! I spoke with my contact at AOL today. May happen in the future, but I will def know ahead of time.

Teeth is still live on adsonar! Don't let me fool you!!!
 
Sonny Forelli said:
yet mailing old ladies "checks" for $50 that if they cash enroll them in all sorts of impossible to cancel shit is acceptable?

C'mon - this is perhaps the most confusing/deceitful practice ever and every slimey direct mail agency has engaged in this for YEARS covered by small print on the back.

What's easier to be confused - "get $10 if you sign up for this program" on a fucking WEBSITE, or something that looks/feels/smells just like a check that someone confusingly thinks is a true 'rebate' and accidentally depsoits at the bank?

Fucking absurd.
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conv3rsion said:
thats whats so ridiculous about this. for some reason, since its the internet, its a scam.
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If anything, I think the check mailing with the really fine print is worse - Who the hell reads fine print on checks? Usually that fine print says "Void after 90 days"... Either way, this kind of upsell where the card information is passed on without what I think is a clear enough disclaimer about the charge (at least per FTC disclosure guidance) is shady, and won't last in the long run. How the big players in this keep their merchant accounts without having to go the shell company / overseas route that typical online rebill merchants use, is beyond me (unless they're so big, that it comes even easier to them).

I have to ask one of the guys I currently work for about this stuff - He used to head up some of loyalty programs run at Cendant years ago, but now runs a company that actually provides value to customers and still makes a killing :).
 
Well, either the marketers just pulled their shit off, or AOL just smacked the ads down.... I don't see anymore teeth whitening ads..
 
hannahmcintyre said:
Yeah, this.

Any time I saw ANY AdSonar placement all I got was three teeth whitening ads in a row (seriously? NBA.com with teeth whitening ads?), and almost always going to the same page. I thought about a month ago that it wouldn't be too long before AdSonar get tired of it and make people advertise something else instead.
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perhaps people that drink a lot of purple drank, have purple stained teeth
 
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