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If you have been running any of the zip submit offers through the various affiliate networks and would like to go direct my suggestion in to contact a Value Click, Adteractive, or Brandarama directly.

Most of the zip submit offers that are on the affiliates sites actually range in price from $1.75 - $2.75 depending on the scrub rate given to the affililate.

Quite a few small agenices have been contacting the companies directly (e.g. ValueClick,Brandarama,Active Response Group, The usefull...) and getting them to assisgn an exclusive URL and and empty database (eliminating the scrub initially) and promoting it as their own. This gives the marketer the flexibility with the offer as well - creating your own "Home Depot vs. Lowes" or "Free Laptop"
 
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Finally! A n00b that posts something useful without a bunch of spammy links to shitty sites!

Way to go n00b! Welcome to WickedFire!
 
I thought scrubbing is when the merchant goes through your leads and "scrubs" the leads that they feel is not legit, but that doesn't really make sense with his post. Unless he is refferring to the amount that the affiliate network makes.
 
Scrub rate

Scrub rate can mean two things: In the coreg enviroment it would be bad data - mickeymouse@xyz.com, bad phone numbers, address etc.

In regards to the zip submit or email sumbit offers (value click, adteractive,branadarama) it refers to scrubbing up against their current database. They may have 30mm people in the database an if you were to dirve signups to the database and 50% of your sign ups are already in there you will receive no compensation for them.

This is why when speaking to them directly you need to ask for a "clean database" This means the database is empty so you will be paid for every member you send to them. They ususally do not have not problem doing this if you can drive X amount of traffic. At the same time you can create you own creative with their approval. (e.g. Home depot vs. lowes)

All of the major affiliate networks ask for this now - Hydra may have 20 different zip submit offers but their might be 3 or 4 URLS becasue they are coming from the 3 or 4 major players in this space. When you sign up it will say "no scrub"
 
Very nice! If there are zips paying up to $2.75 it might be worth it for me to check them out.
 
All comes down to negotiating price with them directly - for you to go on to their affiliate site and sign up you will not get that rate. Still will be much higher rate than you would get signing up to Hydra, clickbooth, datran or the other 600.
 
would they accept myspace traffic from non-stolen accounts if we went to them directly for zip/email offers?
 
I dont think that they care where the traffic comes from. They are paying on a zip submit. If the traffic works for them over time should not be an issue if they dont have anyone sign up to their coreg path behid the "zip submit" they will let you know that it is now working for them.

My space either works or it doesnt - A suggestion would be to get a unique URL and create a offer that works for the audience. Home Depot vs Lowes might not work that well there. If you get your own exclusive URL play around with creatives.
 
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I dont think that they care where the traffic comes from. They are paying on a zip submit. If the traffic works for them over time should not be an issue if they dont have anyone sign up to their coreg path behid the "zip submit" they will let you know that it is now working for them.

My space either works or it doesnt - A suggestion would be to get a unique URL and create a offer that works for the audience. Home Depot vs Lowes might not work that well there. If you get your own exclusive URL play around with creatives.
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well I know what email/zip offers work for myspace as I am doing $150+/day with them via zip/email offers that pay $1.30-1.50.. if I could get more than that that'd be awesome.
 
I am certain that you can get higher than that. Sometimes it depends on the creative that is running. $1.30 - $1.50 is what the affiliate networks typically offer after taking their 30-35% off the top. Depending on the offer (creative) I have seen it as high as $2.75. $2.00 would not be unheard of for what you are delivering.
 
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I am certain that you can get higher than that. Sometimes it depends on the creative that is running. $1.30 - $1.50 is what the affiliate networks typically offer after taking their 30-35% off the top. Depending on the offer (creative) I have seen it as high as $2.75. $2.00 would not be unheard of for what you are delivering.
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So which companies do I contact? A lot of my email offers are from consumerpromotioncenter.com based on what I see from my affiliate URL.
 
Where have you been getting your links from? It looks like this is one is one of Value Clicks campaings. Companies to contact would be: Brandarama.com which is owned and operated by Active Response Group. Value Click, Adteractive, TheUseful and OptinRealBig. There probably a few more but these are generally the lasrgest. You will need to sell them a bit but your should certainly be able to increase your rates.
 
Hrzic said:
Where have you been getting your links from? It looks like this is one is one of Value Clicks campaings. Companies to contact would be: Brandarama.com which is owned and operated by Active Response Group. Value Click, Adteractive, TheUseful and OptinRealBig. There probably a few more but these are generally the lasrgest. You will need to sell them a bit but your should certainly be able to increase your rates.
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My links have been coming from CPA Empire, which is owned by OptinRealBig (now called Media Breakaway, LLC). The links they give me (which has my affiliate ID appended so I get credit) foward to offers listed on http://consumerpromotioncenter.com/.
 
Can someone tell me where they have seen a zip/email submit for more than $2?

We deal with all the end users on the email/zip submit side and i have never heard of anyone paying over $2. Most pay $1.75-$2 to a network, who in turn may pay out 1.50-1.75 Most networks make very little margin, they hope to earn money based off volume.

However if there are offer paying better than $2 please let me know as i would love to be able to pull them in to our network.

One thing towatch out for as someone mentioned in this thread is scrub rates. Most advertisers scrub out leads in real time. They may decide that any email from wickedfire.com is not a valid submission and will scrub it on the front end. Also offers that have been around a long time have a large database that they may scrub against. Those who pay the most typically have a higher scrub rate.
 
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