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magisec

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Hi there all,

I've recently entered the field of Affiliate marketing with Google's Adwords service.
While learning the "trick of the trade" I've managed to ban some of my most profitable accounts.
I've read many of the postings here regarding creating new adwords accounts, and have tried them. I must admit I've failed almost all attempts.

I've tried using VPSs for different IPs on various locations, new CC, new name and address - even successfully verified the CC but it seem that something is still triggering alerts for those accounts and they get to review process and eventually closed.
(I've of course managed all the small details: Cookies, History, different Emails, Host, landing pages, etc...)

I'd really appreciate any tip or suggestion as to how to create new accounts.

P.S
Does buying already activated accounts really work? isn't changing IP, CC and email on such accounts also trigger review?

Thanks!
 
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You've probably thought of it but since you didn't specifically list it: Did you delete the Flash cookies?
 
Actually i wasn't aware of such cookies, how do you remove them?
Anyhow, I had used a fresh installation of windows OS on a VM. so i guess flash cookies weren't the cause of my accounts not getting activated.

Thanks.
 
Sonny Forelli said:
are you registering the domains under the same name(s) even w/ whois protection?
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Actually yes, the domain names of the target URL are registered with the same details, however i always buy ID Protection.

Do you suggest this might cause the accounts to be connected?
 
I'm not sure i got to the bottom of understanding this issue with Domain registration. Can you please explain?

Thanks.
 
I don't think you can use prepaids with Adwords. He is probably using someone elses card...girlfriend, brother, etc.

Refrozen said:
Are you guys using prepaid cards to do this? If not, how the heck do you get a new name and address....
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Brandon said:
I don't think you can use prepaids with Adwords. He is probably using someone elses card...girlfriend, brother, etc.
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True, currently I'm still trying to activate with valid cards and details, however I've heard rumors that there might be some methods to overcome this issue as well, but i have more urgent problems - like not able to activate accounts with valid CCs...
 
magisec said:
Actually yes, the domain names of the target URL are registered with the same details, however i always buy ID Protection.

Do you suggest this might cause the accounts to be connected?
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It was discussed on here that Google/eNOM partnership may allow them see right past this (as registrars can?)

maybe this could help.... Generate a Random Name - Fake Name Generator + no whois.

I suggest during registration (ahem, namecheap + visa vanilla gift cards assuming you're in the US) you use 'info@domainyoureregistering.com' or 'contact@domainyoureregistering.com' (yes this WILL work during registration), and then just forward this domain off to something you actually get.

thereby leaving the 'open' registration yet just to someone who happens to live in Cyprus, or Swaziland, etc, but if anyone actually emails something important it'll get to you.
 
Sonny Forelli said:
It was discussed on here that Google/eNOM partnership may allow them see right past this (as registrars can?)

maybe this could help.... Generate a Random Name - Fake Name Generator + no whois.

I suggest during registration (ahem, namecheap + visa vanilla gift cards assuming you're in the US) you use 'info@domainyoureregistering.com' or 'contact@domainyoureregistering.com' (yes this WILL work during registration), and then just forward this domain off to something you actually get.

thereby leaving the 'open' registration yet just to someone who happens to live in Cyprus, or Swaziland, etc, but if anyone actually emails something important it'll get to you.
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The way I understand private whois to work is none of the customers info is sent to the whois servers, only a unique ID which can be mapped back to the customer, for google to get this data they would need to buy the company the customer is registering with.
 
magisec said:
Hi there all,

I've recently entered the field of Affiliate marketing with Google's Adwords service.
While learning the "trick of the trade" I've managed to ban some of my most profitable accounts.
I've read many of the postings here regarding creating new adwords accounts, and have tried them. I must admit I've failed almost all attempts.

I've tried using VPSs for different IPs on various locations, new CC, new name and address - even successfully verified the CC but it seem that something is still triggering alerts for those accounts and they get to review process and eventually closed.
(I've of course managed all the small details: Cookies, History, different Emails, Host, landing pages, etc...)

I'd really appreciate any tip or suggestion as to how to create new accounts.

P.S
Does buying already activated accounts really work? isn't changing IP, CC and email on such accounts also trigger review?

Thanks!
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Are you re-building the campaigns (Adgroups, keywords and adtexts different) for each account?
 
mattk said:
The way I understand private whois to work is none of the customers info is sent to the whois servers, only a unique ID which can be mapped back to the customer, for google to get this data they would need to buy the company the customer is registering with.
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ah, good to know.
 
mattk said:
Are you re-building the campaigns (Adgroups, keywords and adtexts different) for each account?
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The assumption behind this requirement (different structure..) is that Google are comparing newly created campaign with "signatures" of recently banned campaigns, right?

There must be some similarity as the final product is the same,
but I'm creating a different structure and content as i can.
Does it make any sense to start a campaign with more mainstream products and keywords and after some time, switching to the real product i'm trying to promote (for which I've opened the account)
 
I assumed Google was flagging accounts for manual review that use affiliate links, whether the quality score is good or not.
 
magisec said:
The assumption behind this requirement (different structure..) is that Google are comparing newly created campaign with "signatures" of recently banned campaigns, right?

There must be some similarity as the final product is the same,
but I'm creating a different structure and content as i can.
Does it make any sense to start a campaign with more mainstream products and keywords and after some time, switching to the real product i'm trying to promote (for which I've opened the account)
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Yeah that's what I mean, I had the idea that google might be generating checksums on elements of the campaign and using it to flag accounts.

I'm a little paranoid when it comes to google I'm currently in the process of experimenting with the opening process and have burnt 15 or so accounts so far.
 
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