Adobe Muse



I'm sure there's a market for another WYSIWYG editor but having looked at some of their showcase projects, and viewed the source for said projects, I can say I'll stick to hand coding my pages. The code is poorly structured, full of empty divs, bloated and extremely inefficient. The way it handles IE compatibility is, quite frankly, laughable.
 
Wow, is that ever going to fail horribly.

I think someone forgot to tell Adobe about this cool new platform called Wordpress.
 
god, Adobe Acrobat is one of the most shitty, bloated, faggotry pdf viewers in the history of the internet. only a dummy would trust them with something as important as creating a web page
 
It looks nice, but I think Adobe are a little too optimistic.. As stated in their video, they think that with this product they will change the whole process of creating websites, and in 5-10 years nobody will code their websites, because this Muse thing is supposed to "be better than that". Yeah.. Good luck ;)
 
All they need to do is have an automatic PSD->XHTML/CSS conversion feature in Photoshop and no one will ever use anything else, but I'm sure its nearly impossible to make something like that and have it actually work well.

This tool is too basic, you can draw rectangles, put text, and pictures, and that's basically it. There needs to be more nicer effects , a button creator, JS/Jquery integration, etc. However, I do think this is a pretty neat tool to create quick landing pages in.
 
Muse is promoted as a way to "create websites without writing any code", as if coding is some sort of disease that must be irradiated.
Next Adobe fail.
 
Can't someone at Adobe be concerned with bloated code?

They've had like 15 freaking years of abuse on the subject and then they make a bloated WYSIWYG program like this?!?!?

Man do they just not have a clue...
 
I can understand using a WYSIWYG type deal if you don't know how to hand code or hand coding just isn't your thing, but just know there's always going to be a downside, which is, most of the time, pretty poor source code. The second you try to incorporate some of your own hand coding into the picture that these editors don't jive with, you're pretty much fucked.

I remember back when Dreamweaver was the new hotness and also remember teaching quite a few folks how to hand code and appreciate the beauty of clean, easily maintainable code and they've never looked back. These days I pretty much use Sublime Text 2 for coding and sometimes use Stylizer for tweaking the CSS visually. If I like what I see in Stylizer, I go back and make the changes by hand. The result is decent source code that I can go back months/years later and easily know what the hell is going on rather than wading through code pasta to make a simple change.

I guess it's just me but it's the same way I feel about learning to get around a *IX console vs using any type of "control panel", which I despise.
 
Not reading one damn word of that until you figure out where this is:
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SmokeTree said:
I can understand using a WYSIWYG type deal if you don't know how to hand code or hand coding just isn't your thing, but just know there's always going to be a downside, which is, most of the time, pretty poor source code. The second you try to incorporate some of your own hand coding into the picture that these editors don't jive with, you're pretty much fucked. I remember back when Dreamweaver was the new hotness and also remember teaching quite a few folks how to hand code and appreciate the beauty of clean, easily maintainable code and they've never looked back. These days I pretty much use Sublime Text 2 for coding and sometimes use Stylizer for tweaking the CSS visually. If I like what I see in Stylizer, I go back and make the changes by hand. The result is decent source code that I can go back months/years later and easily know what the hell is going on rather than wading through code pasta to make a simple change. I guess it's just me but it's the same way I feel about learning to get around a *IX console vs using any type of "control panel", which I despise.
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Yes, the negative reviews for Adobe Muse all cite the wonky code as its downside. Another downside is the monthly subscription. You can't buy it outright, you have to subscribe. I'm in the process of learning HTML, CSS and Javascript and when I have that down it'll be adios to Adobe Muse.
 
CharliBaltimore said:
Yes, the negative reviews for Adobe Muse all cite the wonky code as its downside. Another downside is the monthly subscription. You can't buy it outright, you have to subscribe. I'm in the process of learning HTML, CSS and Javascript and when I have that down it'll be adios to Adobe Muse.
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You can easily spend a few evenings learning html/css, with some good / full tutorials (video even) that will get you prepared n' ready to go quickly. I'd do that instead of wasting time, potentially developing bad habits. ;)
 
dreamache said:
You can easily spend a few evenings learning html/css, with some good / full tutorials (video even) that will get you prepared n' ready to go quickly. I'd do that instead of wasting time, potentially developing bad habits. ;)
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I just signed up with lynda.com and so far it's been smooth sailing.
 
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