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Well another hero today...

Even worse that Friendster... give you a lot of traffic! BS of all interwebz = their traffic.

I have runned 5 campaigns with them so far. All for zip/submits/e-mail submits/survey/gifts/even 1 penny stocks just for lulz

Well... Min campaign costs $50, usual CPM from $0.15 to $0.55

They claim they have category targeting.

In all my 5 of $50 campaigns ...

rant / please don't tell that I should test more lol, each banner I used received like 80-100 clicks for these payouts of $1-$2, so this is enough, I directlinked, cause it may even confused them more, and they need to enter like zip/e-mail so why do LP's ?

or a need to ? Anyway it was like $1-$2 return of each campaign (mostly for games) for whole $50 of each, some return like 2-3 conversion, some (most) - 0!

even when there is a need for LP's they should convert better, and while it mostly torrent traffic, why nobody of those who looked for pirated games was not interested in free WOW chest for just putting e-mail ? I call BS on this!

/ rant

Well, I have looked at list of reffers, some blank, some from sites like golf, while I targeted games, some some banner exchange where you don't see whole site but some shit like pop banner


And moreover owners Niek and some Meejiis or whatever his name only happy when you put money and approve it right away, but when you ask them when you target by category and still nowhere near it - stop replying.

DO NOT RUN ANYTHING WITH THIS SHIT!:nopenope::angryfire::nopenope: Plus they do not refund anything, one time they agreed to put money into other campaign, but after that - no refunds.

I know and even they say it costs like $500 to optimise at min with them, but what to optimise ? there is like one good source ID, which give good clicks, but they put it on every campaign (who knows what it is), rest = shit, and on business category there was only 2 of them (sources) - no conversions from all, gaming - like 10, but like 8 are shit, rest very poorly converts.

I maybe new to media buys, but still don't get how they are still in business.

I think it's where you delete bad traffic sources, leave good, play with creative CTR, leave good one, but in case of stocks campaign it had good creative CTR like 0.3, it had that 1 good source ID, it had 300 clicks for 3 banners, so 100 per one, 0 lead. End of story, category targeting do not work at all with them!
 


Yeah I hear you but did you really expect to find a profitable campaign for $250?

I usually spend a few solid k to find something that breaks even...

But that's just my experience and I don't claim to be a good marketer so I might be an exception.
 
Well, when I spend like 30 times of payout on creative which placed at least in right category with good CTR I expect at least to get conversions, then I will think to run more....if it really big fat zero probably just not worth it. It was like 200k impressions on each campaign in average.

Plus as I said based on referers they looks like just bunch of cheaters. I am running gaming with some other network now, too far to tell too, but at least they sending me gaming traffic - I checked. That's where I may spend decent money.

I may spend few $k, but traffic quality should worth it too to spend on it. IMHO

Yes, I have read media buys posts by dickarmy and others. I think they just don't run here, plus probably still not many big boys will risk, for performance marketing, spending like $50k on purest shit RON traffic.
 
It's more like 1% even to be honest...

Well I tested them with my US VPN ip:) It worked out, all leads for all of them were counted this way just like it should...as for traffic source - nope
 
seolinker said:
Well another hero today...

Even worse that Friendster... give you a lot of traffic! BS of all interwebz = their traffic.

I have runned 5 campaigns with them so far. All for zip/submits/e-mail submits/survey/gifts/even 1 penny stocks just for lulz

Well... Min campaign costs $50, usual CPM from $0.15 to $0.55

They claim they have category targeting.

In all my 5 of $50 campaigns ...

rant / please don't tell that I should test more lol, each banner I used received like 80-100 clicks for these payouts of $1-$2, so this is enough, I directlinked, cause it may even confused them more, and they need to enter like zip/e-mail so why do LP's ?

or a need to ? Anyway it was like $1-$2 return of each campaign (mostly for games) for whole $50 of each, some return like 2-3 conversion, some (most) - 0!

even when there is a need for LP's they should convert better, and while it mostly torrent traffic, why nobody of those who looked for pirated games was not interested in free WOW chest for just putting e-mail ? I call BS on this!

/ rant

Well, I have looked at list of reffers, some blank, some from sites like golf, while I targeted games, some some banner exchange where you don't see whole site but some shit like pop banner


And moreover owners Niek and some Meejiis or whatever his name only happy when you put money and approve it right away, but when you ask them when you target by category and still nowhere near it - stop replying.

DO NOT RUN ANYTHING WITH THIS SHIT!:nopenope::angryfire::nopenope: Plus they do not refund anything, one time they agreed to put money into other campaign, but after that - no refunds.

I know and even they say it costs like $500 to optimise at min with them, but what to optimise ? there is like one good source ID, which give good clicks, but they put it on every campaign (who knows what it is), rest = shit, and on business category there was only 2 of them (sources) - no conversions from all, gaming - like 10, but like 8 are shit, rest very poorly converts.

I maybe new to media buys, but still don't get how they are still in business.

I think it's where you delete bad traffic sources, leave good, play with creative CTR, leave good one, but in case of stocks campaign it had good creative CTR like 0.3, it had that 1 good source ID, it had 300 clicks for 3 banners, so 100 per one, 0 lead. End of story, category targeting do not work at all with them!
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LOL what did you expect from shitty torrent traffic ..
 
I expect at least not 1 conversion, more like 5-10 for each, it's simple submits afterall, maybe some campaigns would profit a lot... lol
 
I've never really fucked around with any sort of torrent traffic. But looking at those sites and what similar offers can be made to work on say adbrite.. online mmo games may be a better bet. other then those gay 'you're 1 million'th visitor1!!!11" banners.

you'd think people who even know what a torrent is are a little tech savvie and know by now not to put their email address in some shitty submit form to 'get free' this or that.
 
Will try adbrite for those, but there are lot of people there who still falling for some cracks with trojans inside and still not learning and lots of them there...:) So I decided why not... 1 millon visitor - yeah, it's total BS

Still curious why they clicked then...
 
i think thats y most of affiliates fail to find profitable campaigns, they either promote on shitty traffic sources or their budget is too low to make any assumptions.
 
Well, someone in past refer this traffic source to me as very successfull with bizops, but said it's not works anymore, that's why I try it with something else.
 
So, you tell me adperium who tried to shove rubber fist up my anoos... he was a homosexual?

Oh my gawd
 
I also tested a few offers from dating to games. Spent around $300 with them, $50 per campaign, and had 1 conversion for $3.50.

I had great ctr's. I was getting .25-.32 on my banners and lots of clicks to the offers. Just, nothing converted. I also tried DL and LP's, nothing worked.
 
This ^^^

Sometimes it's not about trowing 4-5 figures to test. Great banner CTR's shows people really interested, if so why they fuck they clicked...sure some will not convert, it's just obvious, but here you will need like 500 clicks to see 1 conversion.

Which simply says this source is retarted....just looks for reffers...obviously it was not piratebay, if it will I will continue, cause I am sure I can profit from that freebie seekers. People who did PPI banked VERY HARD THERE and on Mininova 2 years ago, only lately with help of LOT of mods they start to delete trojans, and I am sure some passing by...

If you spent $300 and return no less than $30 it maybe worth it, but not $3 return LMAO
 
Learn how this game works before you start ranting. What you're currently saying is basicly the following (in other words):

"I was on this crowded place last time trying to sell roses, a lot of people looked at me but no1 bought them! Stupid retards!"

Think about what kind of audience is visiting torrent sites (majority at least). I'll give you a hint of one word, now go make money: "single"
 
You both trying me to say that you successfully run ****** (everyone will know who know 2+2=4)

But guy above spend $300 and got 1 lead from vertical you trying to say me it works... plus single one also play games much more, which should work even better.

Maybe I will return to that...later
 
stupidbodo said:
not all of their traffic is torrent. They got inventory from Right Media as well
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Are you trying me to say they sell Yahoo inventory at $0.55 CPM top ? lol

Too good to be true, anyway you can't do there individual buys, so really no choice and as I said...targeting fucked up...they send me traffic from golf sites while they also have category "sport"

If you can make it work - good for you.
 
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