Adult Affiliates? anyone use them

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[R]DeVore

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ok, I am jumping into the adult affiliate world, and started with my first site:

www.punanispot.com

I got the site up, I have some galleries up that will be updated daily, and I have a lot of banners and affiliate links up.

My question is this: Anyone who does adult affiliate marketing (i know jon used to, and some others on here), what was your best ways of promotion that converted to sales? I know theres a lot of linkplugs you can buy from other adult sites, but i found that most of them just send traffic, but no conversions.

Also, if you would care to tell me what I might be able to do better with my website, I would appreciate that as well.

Thanks in advance.

- Robert DeVore
 


bottom line, just like mainstream its all about the traffic you get. you need tons of it :)

a normal conversion rate would be 1:500 visitors to your sponsors will convert into a signup. depending on your CTR, you will need probably XX,XXX visitors a day to get 1 sale a day.
 
Cool1g said:
bottom line, just like mainstream its all about the traffic you get. you need tons of it :)

a normal conversion rate would be 1:500 visitors to your sponsors will convert into a signup. depending on your CTR, you will need probably XX,XXX visitors a day to get 1 sale a day.

Actually, I have to disagree.. It's no longer all about traffic. Most guys looking for porn are a bit smarter about it, and will look for free shit first, so there's no stopping them there. I think it's more about psychology than just volume of traffic.

You have to get the guy very interested, and convinced that he will not find this shit anywhere else, not even for free. Being unique is always a plus, but also a big problem, because there are so many affiliates promoting around. Your best bet, as far as traffic and conversions is to focus on specific niches or even sub-niches. Don't make a general site, I know they are easier to promote because they cater to a large variety, but general site traffic are typically freeloaders just looking for quick pics and videos.

The niche stuff always did very well for me. Another niche, that did SO well for us, and I'm sure still does very well is Gay porn. I know, you don't want to look at it, but consider this.. 99% of the porn out there is purchased by men. The reason most chargebacks occur is because the men are ashamed of it by their wife finding out about it, or they just deny they ordered it (probably because of their wife/gf seeing the bill) and chargeback. As an affiliate this doesn't necessarily effect you because Adult is a high risk business, and sees chargebacks as high as 6%, but the niche sites generally have lower chargeback ratios, higher conversions, and longer lasting members, because they know it's hard to find stuff, and when they find a site they like, they tend to stay.

Back on the topic, the reason Gay porn did so well for us is because your target market is 100% men. Men tend to spend money online more freely when they are horny. It's been proven and when I had my sites, we spent a lot of money on market research to figure things like this out. When men get horny, they just want to see that video or picture set inside so badly that they impulse purchase before thinking twice.

Some tactics to lure more sales in would be to either private label an affiliate program's site, or to link directly to the join page. You may also want to explore affiliate programs that payout on free trials or lifetime free passes. They make their money by upselling other sites, and by spamming the crap out of the person's email box. I remember the payouts being something like $25 for free trials, but I'm sure a lot has changed in the almost 5 years since I departed.
 
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First of all, your site looks really good.

Second, I want to completely agree with Jon regarding traffic and psychology.

I have made a decent amount of cash in adult and it takes very little imagination. However, I am putting everything I have done up to this point on hiatus and am trying something different. Everything in the adult market looks the same and there is just so much junk out there. I am refocusing on the psychological and salesmanship element.

One thing you could think about - since your current site seems to be a catchall site, you could indiscriminately build up traffic and send it to niche sites that you own. Promote the hell out of the main site and get cheap crappy traffic, but tweak your site design a little bit so you can easily send people off to the more targeted niches.
 
Agreed to Jon, good insight! I did a porn niche at one point, it worked REALLY well. I had natural backlinks nearly instantly because my content was free and it was unique, stuff you couldn't just go out and find. But I accidentally deleted my DB so that was the end of that. lol
 
thanks a lot for the replies guys. I'm thinking of switching the site over to a certain niche instead of the catchall like it is now. A lot of good info to think about.

Jon, how did you battle through looking at the gay porn? I dont think I can do it man. I pondered promoting gay porn, but I just dont think I can do that.
 
[R]DeVore said:
Jon, how did you battle through looking at the gay porn? I dont think I can do it man. I pondered promoting gay porn, but I just dont think I can do that.

Very easy. I was in the industry for cash, not sex. Gay porn not only converts at a much higher rate, but the payouts were huge because members would stay sometimes 5x longer at our gay sites than at any of our other sites. We had maybe 10 or 15 affiliates actively promoting the gay sites too, versus the over 300 affiliates promoting everything else. The end results were pretty unreal too, it went from 1- Gay, 2- Fetish, 3-Niche, 4- General/Misc as far as revenue and best conversion rates were concerned. Also with the gay sites we were charging about $40/mo vs the $25-$30 we were charging for everything else. Mix a niche or fetish with a gay site, and you're going to bank VERY hard, and that's all that should matter in the end.
 
Don't just focus on the sponsors you can use other ad networks to make money like avnads, adultadworld, or zangocash.
 
Does anyone know any other adult affiliate programs? Im thinking Nasty Dollars is probably the best. Anyone else do this type of affiliate business? I have a series of adult sites coming out, and I cant put AdSense on them. I will need to do purely affiliate with these sites. First time for me. Looking for whatever converts well. The sites I will be putting out are content about strip clubs and escorts.
 
John said:
Twistys by far has the best hosted galleries

In all my years from when I was in adult from the early/mid 90's to 2002/03 when I quit I never once made a TGP or MGP, ever. Still to this day, it just seems like a shitload of work for very small returns.
 
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