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this is my first post since my break from Affiliate marketing :)

Okay, whenever I talk to my AM's they always give me advice on what to promote, but most of them are short term offers. It's always, "dude you need to promote this hard for the remaining week before it's expired". They KNOW I do PPC marketing. To me, a week isn't enough to even do anything(atleast with my knowledge). I have to design and code a landing page and do testing all within a week. So this has gotten me thinking... do ppc people all setup new campaigns this quickly? Am I missing something? Maybe I should just make a generic landing page and use the same design for all of them?

someone shed some light please :)
 


For something that short it seems hard to imagine. I would guess most people would just use a redirect and send clickers straight to the merchant's landing page. Of course, if you are really "serious" you could easily have a web designed on call to make you new landing pages/mini sites within 24 hours notice. I'm sure plenty of serious people do that too ...
 
mason said:
this is my first post since my break from Affiliate marketing :)

Okay, whenever I talk to my AM's they always give me advice on what to promote, but most of them are short term offers. It's always, "dude you need to promote this hard for the remaining week before it's expired". They KNOW I do PPC marketing. To me, a week isn't enough to even do anything(atleast with my knowledge). I have to design and code a landing page and do testing all within a week. So this has gotten me thinking... do ppc people all setup new campaigns this quickly? Am I missing something? Maybe I should just make a generic landing page and use the same design for all of them?

someone shed some light please :)
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I completely agree, IMO one week isn't enough time. The "expiration" dates on most offers are also misleading. I ran one that said it expired in Nov 08. I run it for a week and bam it gets pulled. Very frustrating.
 
naturally, this leads to the question: how much do you trust your AM to pick offers for you? obviously it's in their interest for you to make money but i have the feeling they're sometimes pressured by advertisers to push certain compaigns more than others, and they do it, regardless of whether it would be beneficial to the affiliate. i could be wrong but i've sensed this a few times.
 
Too much work for a single week. All that time and effort on a single offer and after a week, no more income doesn't sound any good.
 
My best campaigns have been up for at least a year. I would go find something sticky.

Besides, isn't it a good sign that a program lasts a long time?
 
Dude, AM's suck for the most part and know NOTHING about affiliate marketing. ( of course there's always exceptions ). But for the most part they've never worked the business.

SOoooo much of it depends on your traffic. For example I do mostly blackhat traffic which means I rank sites 1,2,3 in the SE's for top terms. I had my account rep from azg say this work at home offer converted at a 27 cent EPC and she kept buggin me to run something. So I did. I built sites ranked 1,2 for all the top "work at home" terms on MSN to test it out.

Now keep in mind it's MSN which means low traffic high conversions. I also do redirects direct to the advertisers page, so that takes out any issues of you're landing page sucks. For example serp rank of #1 for "work at home" ->affiliate landing page direct. With all that said I sent over 1000 clicks and 0 leads came from it. Now I don't know of much better traffic then Organic for the perfect term. No conversions! Test, test, test... and don't depend on AM's to steer your towards what will be most profitable for you.

There maybe people making a ton of money in what they suggest however it maybe doing something you have no idea how to do. Buying CPM, organic ranks, email, spamming or one sort or another, etc, etc, etc...
 
I get the same thing too Mason. A lot of the deals AM's push to me are short term deals. And unless I am able to start on it that second, it is likely a waste of time. By the time I get it set up, and set up PPC campaigns it may be several days or more before I actually get a critical mass of traffic.

Sometimes I just end up passing, because from experience I have learned it can lead to a lot of intense effort with little payoff.

If I had a lot of website traffic and could throw up new banners in a minute or two, I could see it really being hot. But for PPC it is hard to do the short-term quick offers.
 
Smaxor

Just curious about BH methods, You mentioned that MSN is where you rank, what about Google? Is that because of the sandbox? Do you find that after the sandbox period your sites get traffic from Google?

The reason I ask is that Im interested in BH but it seems like that BH people seem to only get ranking on msn or yahoo and I figure its only a matter of time before they catch up to G and that's not a great long term plan. Thanks
 
I'm an advocate for long term planning and typically recommend the life time rev share programs to people. If you want to make a buck today, use PPC; however if you are looking for long term results, rev share is the best way to develop a lasting and profitable relationship with your AM.
 
daled1 said:
Just curious about BH methods, You mentioned that MSN is where you rank, what about Google? Is that because of the sandbox? Do you find that after the sandbox period your sites get traffic from Google?

The reason I ask is that Im interested in BH but it seems like that BH people seem to only get ranking on msn or yahoo and I figure its only a matter of time before they catch up to G and that's not a great long term plan. Thanks
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Blackhat isnt a long term plan to start with........ And yeah its impossible to rank in the top 10 in google unless you use link bait, pod casting, blog buzz generation, social media optimization, strategic link partnerships, aged domains with steady link aquisition historical patterns. and most importantly quality content. Your pretty much out of luck without lots of unique high quality editorial content.
 
I agree with lerchmo. Better hire yourself a editor. Google will know if you write it. Thats what black hats do. They try to trick google into thinking they didn't write it, but Google has their ways of finding out if it was them and banning them.
 
Deliguy said:
I agree with lerchmo. Better hire yourself a editor. Google will know if you write it. Thats what black hats do. They try to trick google into thinking they didn't write it, but Google has their ways of finding out if it was them and banning them.
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that is dangerous advice to give without first telling them to CUT THE MONEY TRAIL... google is able to watch your financial transactions since they index the federal taxation record, and if you dont use something like E-Gold to hire your writers.... google will know where the content came from.
 
lerchmo said:
WARNING
that is dangerous advice to give without first telling them to CUT THE MONEY TRAIL... google is able to watch your financial transactions since they index the federal taxation record, and if you dont use something like E-Gold to hire your writers.... google will know where the content came from.
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Yes definitely. Google likes publishers who have good financial backgrounds. That is why I pay all my writers through direct bank transfers. I also make sure to keep perfect credit for when Google checks my credit report. I have a good feeling about my rankings next month 'cus Google checked my paypal transaction history 5 times so far this week! I also made sure to keep at least $1,000 in there. Glad I did :D

Do you think I should put more in?
 
What!?! Google has access to our paypal transactions? Paypal/Ebay just lets google access their records? If that's true thats outrageous
 
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