Another Estimation of Revenue Thread

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I have been reading through these forums for months now and have come across multiple threads regarding "How much can I make" and they are all different. After you weed through the sarcasm you have new guys making a few dollars a day while experienced members reporting upwards of $1,000 per day. So my question is based around this but more what direction should I go in.

I have three current domains which I would like to start my afflilate marketing with. Two of the domain names I consider to be simply great and I just happen to get lucky in retrieving them in an auction. Good enough where without even creating the content I fall top three in search engines for my primary keywords just simply based on the name alone. The 3rd is also very good but not a name that people would simply stumble upon like the first two.

The sites will be informative sites but completely custom with all of my own material. Likely 20 to 30 articles to start. Well designed site layout which I have already paid a developer to create so I can use across all three sites. So not a typical static site with a few articles on the subject which is never updated.

So my main question is again what direction should I go first? Do I take one of the three and focus heavily on that in hopes of developing a fan base using a very interactive approach or a concerted effort on all three but due to time constraints less updates and minimial interaction with the visitors?

Then finally, realistically, what could I expect to make? Given they are sites with great layout, decent starting traffic based on domain names (20k unique visitors per month), and each site allows me the opportunity to promote/market upwards of 20 or 30 different products as well as incorporating Google Adsense. Also the products/services I am promoting would be large fortune 500 companies not the gimmick or Ebook of the week.

At this point I am kind of rambling on but I read so many posts of guys getting flamed for not providing enough information or very broad questions. I assure you I have done my research for a while now. I have all of my potentinal Affiliate Marketing partners mapped out (assuming I get approved). As well as a business plan on each site in terms of articles and eventual improvements to the sites for the next 6 months. What would be extremely helpful is if people could post examples of what each type of site brings in. I know it is tough to do this as you do not want to bring in competion to that market or give away secrets but it would show those who are only interested in making a few bucks a month what they will need to work towards while those you are more serious what they would need to strive for in terms of material, layout, traffic, etc. I have looked at flippa to try and gauge this but it the end it appears most of the sellers are inflating their numbers one way or another.

Thanks for the help in advance and I do apologize for the long post.
 


You posted all this garbage, but don't actually give us any information to give you an estimation. Since I'm feeling nice, your answer is anywhere from -∞ to ∞.
 
Which information would you like? Since the sites are not yet live I have provided everything that I am aware of in terms of an estimation of traffic. If I do not yet have this information at least I know there is more I need to research.
 
without even creating the content I fall top three in search engines for my primary keywords just simply based on the name alone

If you are ranking top three with no content for your KWs it sounds like those KWs are not very competitive. Generally, the more competition a particular KW has, the more profitable it is....so I'm thinking these sites aren't going to do much for you.
 
Organic traffic isn't generally buyers. You're then left with Adsense. From skimming your dull, rambling drivel what you're describing sounds like the sort of typein dreck that might pull $10 RPM so if you're being realistic about 20k you might make $200 a month if you're lucky. Odds are good your 20k estimate is about 19.9k high so you'll make about nothing.
 
People pay a lot of money for sites that are making a lot of money. If it's making $0, chances are no one wants it. There are exceptions, but they are just that.

Take a look at Flippa's "Just Sold" listings.
 
Organic traffic isn't generally buyers. You're then left with Adsense. From skimming your dull, rambling drivel what you're describing sounds like the sort of typein dreck that might pull $10 RPM so if you're being realistic about 20k you might make $200 a month if you're lucky. Odds are good your 20k estimate is about 19.9k high so you'll make about nothing.

The 20k is an extremely rough estimate and I believe that to be worst case scenario. However to give you an idea I am # 2 on google and the # 1 site had 10M unique visitors last month. So I am assuming/hoping that with pure dumb luck people will stumble upon my site or at worst after they are done with the first site simply check out the next few below it as well.
 
Which information would you like? Since the sites are not yet live I have provided everything that I am aware of in terms of an estimation of traffic. If I do not yet have this information at least I know there is more I need to research.
Just because there are products available to sell, doesn't mean that:

A. Your content is going to turn visitors into sellers
B. The offer you are promoting converts well
C. That your sales won't get shaved
D. That visitors won't bounce
E. That the target demo for these products will fit your visitors demographics

It's not so easy now is it?
 
The 20k is an extremely rough estimate and I believe that to be worst case scenario. However to give you an idea I am # 2 on google and the # 1 site had 10M unique visitors last month. So I am assuming/hoping that with pure dumb luck people will stumble upon my site or at worst after they are done with the first site simply check out the next few below it as well.

So you reckon they got 10M unique visitors from search traffic?

You've confirmed my $0.
 
Just because there are products available to sell, doesn't mean that:

A. Your content is going to turn visitors into sellers
B. The offer you are promoting converts well
C. That your sales won't get shaved
D. That visitors won't bounce
E. That the target demo for these products will fit your visitors demographics

It's not so easy now is it?

If I felt this was easy I would not be creating this post looking for answers. I am not coming in here telling you what I think I will make I am trying to get an idea of what is realistic and what I need to do to hit those goals.

I am simply looking for estimations based on others experiences. While not everything is the same I would be happy with simply the lower end of the expectations. If you run a well designed site with informative information as I hope to and you tell me you are making X based on X amount visitors I will not expect that I will make the same as you. I would be content with taking 20% of whatever your estimation as a good starting point.
 
If you run a well designed site with informative information as I hope to and you tell me you are making X based on X amount visitors I will not expect that I will make the same as you. I would be content with taking 20% of whatever your estimation as a good starting point.

This is impossible. You will not find answers to your questions. Every niche/site/etc/etc/etc is different. Only experience can possibly tell an accurate answer.
 
If I felt this was easy I would not be creating this post looking for answers. I am not coming in here telling you what I think I will make I am trying to get an idea of what is realistic and what I need to do to hit those goals.

I am simply looking for estimations based on others experiences. While not everything is the same I would be happy with simply the lower end of the expectations. If you run a well designed site with informative information as I hope to and you tell me you are making X based on X amount visitors I will not expect that I will make the same as you. I would be content with taking 20% of whatever your estimation as a good starting point.

I answered this in another thread, but I can't find it right now, so I will paraphrase my earlier statement.

The formula you are looking for is known as "Gnub's Law"

Gnub's law states that "the revenue generated by a novice affiliate marketer will be inversely proportionate to the affiliate marketer's need to ask how much revenue they will generate instead of actually working"
 
So you reckon they got 10M unique visitors from search traffic?

You've confirmed my $0.

Not at all. I took an extremely conservative estimate saying that only 2% of their unique visitors (200,000) reached them via keyword searches. Then I took an estimate that I could retain 10% of those visitors as the listing below them which is where I came up wth 20k per month. Again, estimations but what I consider very low end.

Keeping in mind that the average internet user is not very bright. While you and I go directly to websites based on their URL a high percentage of users type that URL into a toolbar search engine not realizing they are taking an extra step. By doing so each time they attempt to reach the site they will end up seeing mine as well. From there I think 10% is another conservative estimation of the amount of visitors which would be willing to view the next alternative to the site they are visiting now.
 
I answered this in another thread, but I can't find it right now, so I will paraphrase my earlier statement.

The formula you are looking for is known as "Gnub's Law"

Gnub's law states that "the revenue generated by a novice affiliate marketer will be inversely proportionate to the affiliate marketer's need to ask how much revenue they will generate instead of actually working"

While I am asking in a way "How much can/will I make" the underlying goal of this thread was to give me an idea of which direction to go. Do you find that one well done interactive site is more profitable then 2 or 3 above average static sites? At the same time I am looking and hoping to find expectations based on others experiences. How else will I know if I have reached my ceiling or simply grazed the surface or more importatnly where to set my goals when starting out.
 
If you can explain to me how the projections that strangers on an internet forum who know absolutely nothing about your website/niche or marketing skills will make concerning the amount of revenue you may or may not generate from a business venture are in any way sound or actionable, I will wire you 5 thousand American dollars tonight.

You are holding a frisbee, and asking people walking by how far it will go if you throw it.
 
If you can explain to me how the projections that strangers on an internet forum who know absolutely nothing about your website/niche or marketing skills will make concerning the amount of revenue you may or may not generate from a business venture are in any way sound or actionable, I will wire you 5 thousand American dollars tonight.

You are holding a frisbee, and asking people walking by how far it will go if you throw it.

I understand that people will not be able to give me any sort or guranteed answer. As I have stated above I was simply looking for estimations. Since I assume you would be unwilling to send me all of your sites as well as the financial data associated to each site to truly give me a barometer to work off of the best I can do is ask a question and hope for some useful information.

Might I ask what is the best way for me to retrieve this information?
 
I understand that people will not be able to give me any sort or guranteed answer. As I have stated above I was simply looking for estimations. Since I assume you would be unwilling to send me all of your sites as well as the financial data associated to each site to truly give me a barometer to work off of the best I can do is ask a question and hope for some useful information.

Might I ask what is the best way for me to retrieve this information?

No you may not. Go back to work.
 
I'll take a shot. Since I don't know the keywords you're targeting, have never seen your sites, don't know what products you are promoting, or how good your content is.

I'm going to guess $691/day. Maybe $692. Not sure yet.