I'd like to get some more information on it from anyone who has used it and gotten paid. I know its wise not to be too dependent on AdSense! 
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Anyone Using Kontera?
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I just started using them as kind of a test to see how they do. The good news is the links barely affect the adsense and other contextual cpc advertising. So it seems to be making a great supplement. The semi bad news is they have a very low click through rate. I'm averaging only about 1% and thats with their fucked up analytics (they call it net impressions, but its not even equal to about half my unique visitors something is definitely off). The bad news is, their payout at the moment is horrible. I got them testing across quite a few niches and getting paid on average less than 10cents/click (usually bout .05). but every once in awhile I will get a high paying click(up to .75 is my highest). More good news would include, I talked to my account manager over there recently and he "not promised" that they will be getting an overture feed soon(hopefully by wednesday of this week) and that should dramatically help all their payouts/click. it should also make them go from small inventory to huge inventory. They seem to get a ton of dupes in their current ads and only target certain words every single time.
I'm on my first month so I have no idea if they are solid about paying out, but I've heard good things from the few ppl that managed to make enough to warrant a check. So I guess my opinion of them is waiting in limbo and depends on whether or not they score that Overture feed.
I'm on my first month so I have no idea if they are solid about paying out, but I've heard good things from the few ppl that managed to make enough to warrant a check. So I guess my opinion of them is waiting in limbo and depends on whether or not they score that Overture feed.
Another kind of unnerving thing about the talk I had with them was when they kept asking for more traffic. Like I was doing them injustice and the cpm would go up or something. Looking over the last 7 days I know I averaged them 10k uniques/day even though their stats only showed about 2.5k-3k(hell even just bluehatseo gets more than that). So if I'm unique impressioning 10k/day and only getting paid between $1.63-$2.15 a day I feel like I'm getting chumped even if it doesn't seem to be affecting the adsense click throughs too much. Getting asked for more makes me feel like I'm getting played. Especially when they "verify" all the daily stats BEFORE you are allowed to see them. I really don't know how to feel.
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Just wanted to add my experiences. We launched it on a site with 65k uniques per month and like Deliguy we found no detremental affect on the adsense revenue. I can confirm that we did get paid but what the level of payout per click is i'm not sure.
I'd recommend it as an addition to adsense, but I've not found any white hat way of generating good revenue with adsense anyway, so always use them both as additions to selling physical products or services.
Just wanted to add my experiences. We launched it on a site with 65k uniques per month and like Deliguy we found no detremental affect on the adsense revenue. I can confirm that we did get paid but what the level of payout per click is i'm not sure.
I'd recommend it as an addition to adsense, but I've not found any white hat way of generating good revenue with adsense anyway, so always use them both as additions to selling physical products or services.
We tested both Kontera and IntelliTXT. Both of the reps would call me every couple of days to tell me how much greater each one was than the other. It was REALLY annoying after a while.
We tested Kontera first. Implementation went fine, but their ad relevance was BAD. Our site is a tech site only - even more specifically, only laptops. I was told that once we launched, they would tweak the ad content. That never really happened.
And of course, the IntelliTXT guy would email me screenshots of these irrelevant ads during this test period... LOL
The most important part, certainly, is revenue. This was basically nothing - a couple of dollars a day. We were shocked at best.
So we ended early and started IntelliTXT (much to the joy of our rep!). Their ads were/are MUCH more relevant, and the payouts were MUCH higher. They have been on the site for months, and users have the option to turn them off if they choose (though not many do).
It's important to note that these companies pay out in two different ways. Kontera pays on a CPM basis per page load. It doesn't matter if nobody rolls over or clicks an ad. As long as one link loads on the page, it's an impression.
IntelliTXT, on the other hand, requires that a visitor roll over a link to count it as an impression.
Their CPM rates are also very different to reflect the differences in how they record impressions.
The point is that you need to test these different options to be sure. On paper, Kontera was our choice for a few reasons, but in testing, they were horrid. We did get the one check we earned right on schedule.
HTH!
Laura
We tested Kontera first. Implementation went fine, but their ad relevance was BAD. Our site is a tech site only - even more specifically, only laptops. I was told that once we launched, they would tweak the ad content. That never really happened.
And of course, the IntelliTXT guy would email me screenshots of these irrelevant ads during this test period... LOL
The most important part, certainly, is revenue. This was basically nothing - a couple of dollars a day. We were shocked at best.
So we ended early and started IntelliTXT (much to the joy of our rep!). Their ads were/are MUCH more relevant, and the payouts were MUCH higher. They have been on the site for months, and users have the option to turn them off if they choose (though not many do).
It's important to note that these companies pay out in two different ways. Kontera pays on a CPM basis per page load. It doesn't matter if nobody rolls over or clicks an ad. As long as one link loads on the page, it's an impression.
IntelliTXT, on the other hand, requires that a visitor roll over a link to count it as an impression.
Their CPM rates are also very different to reflect the differences in how they record impressions.
The point is that you need to test these different options to be sure. On paper, Kontera was our choice for a few reasons, but in testing, they were horrid. We did get the one check we earned right on schedule.
HTH!
Laura
I tested the AdBrite in-text links recently on my blog.. needless to say, they were annoying me. I also spoke to someone from Kontera about buying ad space on WF, and I think the rep was a little retarded. She kept telling me how I can make thousands and thousands of dollars if I added it to the forum, and I kept saying "no, that would just annoy me and everyone else, these are webmasters, they know not to click on those things, I'd much rather you buy ad space instead" and then she told me they don't do that... ::cough::BULLSHIT::cough::.. I tried Intellitxt on a fairly high volume traffic site for shoppers we have, and it converts OKAY. Nothing spectacular to be honest..
I think that with all of these types of ads, it's a good idea on paper, but a piece of shit idea in reality. Compared to Adsense/YPN or any other type of REAL contextual advertising it doesn't even compare, not in the slightest bit. If you just had to register 1 click instead of 2, then I can understand it, and that hovering box is pretty irritating.. but.. this is coming from a webmaster, not a stupid visitor who doesn't know any better, because let's face it.. there are still MILLIONS of people out there that don't know AdWords are actually ads and not "suggested results"...
I think that with all of these types of ads, it's a good idea on paper, but a piece of shit idea in reality. Compared to Adsense/YPN or any other type of REAL contextual advertising it doesn't even compare, not in the slightest bit. If you just had to register 1 click instead of 2, then I can understand it, and that hovering box is pretty irritating.. but.. this is coming from a webmaster, not a stupid visitor who doesn't know any better, because let's face it.. there are still MILLIONS of people out there that don't know AdWords are actually ads and not "suggested results"...
Adbrite has been horrible. They have tried a bunch of things with us, and they all have sucked. We give up. No more!
I agree that link replacements can be annoying, but if you give the option to turn them off, I think it's okay - as long as they are relevant ads.
Now if only I could find a reasonable way to replace product names/model numbers with affiliate links that doesn't kill the site and gets new posts as soon as they are made, I would be happy.
Relevancy at it's finest!
I've been disappointed with my Kontera results. Although they seem not to lower my Adsense earnings, I'm only getting 10.4 CPC with them. CTR is 2.5%. My conclusion is the annoyance factor of the box popping up is not worth the extra couple hundred per month.
Do keep in mind though that CPC seems to go up a bit after the first 2 weeks of "optimization" to your site that they refer to.
Do keep in mind though that CPC seems to go up a bit after the first 2 weeks of "optimization" to your site that they refer to.
I noticed that Miva and Kontera make you specify the URL where the ads are going to be showing everytime you generate the code. This doesn't scale well for me. I need to be able to generate the code once and place it on any website (like Adsense, YPN, etc.).
Does IntelliTXT allow you to do this?
Does IntelliTXT allow you to do this?
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