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Jon said:
As for the layout. Go basic and raw. For content, a lot of people may disagree with me here, but I gotta say, all you need to do is jack some content from somewhere else and stick the nofollow tags on the top. This is not a site or page you want to be getting into the engines. Return users is not a priority here either. Your goal is to get cheap traffic to the site, click your ads, and leave. Do you think they are going to read the content and say "hmm I wonder if this guy stole this article or press release from another site". Hell no, and for ad placement, people coming to the site aren't webmasters! They don't know what adsense spam is! It's a very simple process for them. Click keyword, go to site, read first few sentences, look at ad links (that look like content links), click to get better information, leave and never come back. That's the cycle you want to always have.
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Would building unique content and performing arbitrage defeat the purpose? Is the basic content and raw lay out a big part in getting higher Click throughs or does it just make things simple and save you time?

Basically saying would I lose money if I built a quality site and used Arbitrage to make money on it? With unique content I could use affiliate offers as well as contextual adds.
 
There's an important factor in arbitrage sites that clashes big time with the "quality site" approach - how are you planning to get 30-70% ctr on a good, clean site ?!

So yeah, I guess it would be defeating the purpose AND lowering your overall results, unless you're able to pull an epc from your affiliate sales that beats the adsense earnings.

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You can make an unlimited amount using the same template, since with arbitrage, the goal is to make money from paid traffic and not free traffic, it doesn't matter what your site looks like, as long as you get those fuckers to click and make you money.
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source: http://www.wickedfire.com/showthread.php?t=2289
 
well its only been up for a week so its not a solid average

Adsense cp says the ads are pulling 30-40% CTR

theres no outbound links besides the adsense..

so either my visitors will close the site or click through ;)
 
z00pedup said:
well its only been up for a week so its not a solid average

Adsense cp says the ads are pulling 30-40% CTR

theres no outbound links besides the adsense..

so either my visitors will close the site or click through ;)
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ah, very nice. I'm going to use some similar elements on my soon-to-launch arbitrage sites.

Good luck with your site and thanks for sharing it with us.
 
z00pedup said:
well its only been up for a week so its not a solid average

Adsense cp says the ads are pulling 30-40% CTR

theres no outbound links besides the adsense..

so either my visitors will close the site or click through ;)
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I would venture to say most people take this route. In reality it only makes sense.

As per the quality content you just want quality enough in your copy to give you the ad's you want. You are in no way looking for return visitors. Just rip off or come up with some quick copy to give you the ad's you want to generate. Then send your cheap 2nd and third teir traffic. It really is not a hard concept to grasp. It took me a while but you are overthinking this topic to much.
 
wait a minute, i'm a newb at all this..thanks by the way for all the info and suggestions,...but what is a noindex meta tag? and how does it look in coding?
 
Yeah, so I'm putting it to the test. Thanks for all the help. Now i just have to trial and error...the only problems is takes a long time=P with only an average of a total of 10clicks a day for all my 3 sites, it will take a while before i get to 100clicks(the point, in my opinion, where i can start changing things again)

by the way, how general do you make your kw's? because i feel like i'm not getting enough clicks. 10clicks total is about 3 clicks per site..
 
Also guys, do you suggest the nav ad link thing? where you make your ad links look like a navigation thing? I currently am trying it, and i get pretty good clicks on the nav ad link bar, but i'm not sure theyre clicking through after they click it. maybe it just gives them reason to leave the site without truly clicking on an ad?
 
Yes, you put Adsense on the site


Secondly with the ad layout that really depends on your layout style and what niche you are in the market for (in my opinion). For example, if you are in the market to drive arbitrage at a product based site like we will take for example photo editing software. I think a better ad layout is intergrated in the text. I think you have to look at the intent of the user clicking to go to your site. They more than likely in this case want to see two things. More info and product listings. They are naturally going to be drawn to the middle of the page where that content usually resides. Then you need to orient the ad's to take advantage of that. You need to evaluate the niche you want to get involved in and check out some other sites to see what others are doing.
 
Well, since it's 12 where I live, I thought I would put a quick update. My site(s)(I have added 2-3 today) are doing much better. about a 2.75:1 ROI for today. I spent $2.07 for searchfeed and 7search.com traffic, $5.44 from adsense clicks. I only got a total of 38 clicks=( and about 13CTR's(not including the one's who only clicked on Link ads and left). I guess i can't be sure about much right now...too few,..38..to be saying much. Cant say anything until probably around 100 ppl...but do you all experience the same traffic? 7search seems to keep my listings updated so if i made a site now and listed it, it would be up. but searchfeed has some of my listing under review and its keywords as N/A rank for a few days,..but even so, with at least 2 of my sites active on both search engine with each of them set to #1 at a max of .06cents, isn't that a little, little? Should i be bidding more? am i doing something wrong? more KW's?

edit: if it helps any, 24 of those 38 clicks where from those 2 "active sites" the other 14 clicks came from searchfeed from my new sites that I got running yesterday and today.
 
well not exactly. Might I say both are quite big..let me go get some numbers..ok, well for my first niche, "travel nurse jobs", which i have posted about in this forum not too long ago, 7search reports as having some 130ksearches for doctor, 30k for medical, 30k for nurses, 10k for travel nurses....now i think that is a lot of searches, albeit doctors, medical and maybe even nurses aren't the best of keywords....the other niche 7search reports as having 70k searches and this KW is much more relevant to my niche than the travel nurse KW's. unfortunately for this KW, I'm rank 13 with a .06cents bid..=P. however, i have plenty of other KW's (definitely not even close to as many searches) that I am #1 or 2 for this niche.

edit: i mine as well post my travel nurse page in this thread. www.travel-nursingonline.com
 
Great job on the improvement. I also really like the way the site looks now. I would try adding more keywords first.
 
thanks, i guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens today. hopefully i get more clicks and the CTR stays high
 
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